Are there any bigger retards than people who 'draw the line' at assault weapons?

[Genos]

These people don't know what they are talking about.

"Assualt Weapons" are already banned.
Semi-automatic firearms are not "assault weapons".

The media loves using that term based on how a weapon looks and because it strikes an emotional chord, but they need to stop fukking using it.

Yeah they should all be called murder tools

 

[LiIZaneFan1978]

Why does anyone who is not in law enforcement, military, hunts for sustenance need a firearm?

Protection?

Do you live in the United States? This sounds like a foreigner ass question if I ever heard one.

 

[jdubnyce]

Do you live in the United States? This sounds like a foreigner ass question if I ever heard one.

I don't

Begs the question....why does this seem to be a United States problem only (mass shootings)

And.....Lil Zane, haven't heard that name in a minute

 

[breakfuss]

Not sure why they just don't make them harder to access. It's a no-brainer.

Keep your second amendment, just shouldn't be able to cop and walk out the store the same day. Should be limits on how many you can buy at one time. For different weapon classes, you should need different licensing endorsements. Wouldn't eliminate all mass shootings, but it would cut them down noticeably.

I can't believe we have people who say banning AR's or stricter gun laws wouldn't do anything to someone who wants to kill someone...so we just continue to do nothing and have a mass shooting once a week???

For the record, I'm a gun owner and want to keep my rights to own guns. But I'm responsible with my shyt. I want to have some semblance of protection because the cops won't always be there.

I have a family member who has mental issues who owned multiple guns. nikka was actually institutionalized for it for a few weeks. No police or agency ever confiscated his guns...you know how hard it was to get them guns from that nikka? Borderline had to fight him to get them away from him.

There is no evidence to support the myth of guns as a viable means of self/home defense. In fact people who own them are more likely to die from them. Not attacking you (I mostly agree with your post), but I don't understand the cognitive dissonance. The stats show we are not safer with guns yet people still believe it.

 

[Vandelay]

There is no evidence to support the myth of guns as a viable means of self/home defense. In fact people who own them are more likely to die from them. Not attacking you (I mostly agree with your post), but I don't understand the cognitive dissonance. The stats show we are not safer with guns yet people still believe it.

And that's fair given whatever metrics they used to measure. I just know from my experiences and my old neighborhood i grew up in, people have followed me home, people have tried to kick in my front door. 911 doesn't work that fast.

 

[LiIZaneFan1978]

I don't

Begs the question....why does this seem to be a United States problem only (mass shootings)

And.....Lil Zane, haven't heard that name in a minute

Yeah the US is fukked. It’s basically if you can’t beat em join em when it comes to guns. I live in CA where gun ownership is already heavily regulated so you’re not really going on a rampage if you buy your shyt legally out here, with our 10 round mags and fin grips.

On the flip side you’re probably not surviving an ambush on your home with 10 round mags and fin grips either

 

[Cuban Pete]

I like being in countries where there arent that many guns. I love walking around in Europe and feeling like I dont have to worry about an armed robbery like that unless its knoife crime (which is serious but as an American that shyt kinda tickles you). I wish the states would be more like Europe, Canada and Australia.

With that being said, the Pandoras Box is open and theres no way to shut it. At least not now. You come for guns in this polarized society and your asking for riots and fukkery on a scale that would make 2020 look like super bowl celebration. I do not like guns outnumbering citizens like 3 to 1 but Im definitely not cool with having them taken away from the people. They did that in my other country and them mfers STILL running the show over there precisely because they can bully the populace with impunity. So while I do not agree with these MAGA cacs hee haw NRA cowboy fantasies because I feel alot of their logic is based on hyperbole, I can see where theyre coming from because it HAS happened. And no, a hunting rifle is not enough to deter a hostile govt takeover, neither is an AR15 but at least thats a start if you gotta strap up and protect YOUR community/family from a possible riot/insurgency/invasion/repression. Its a hell of alot better than nothing. Background checks and mental health need to be prioritized but thats about all Im in favor for at the moment.

 

[Oatmeal]

No, they’re not

Assault rifles shouldn’t be as easily accessible compared to other weapons.

True, all guns are meant to kill people but those are meant to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time. A sniper is deadlier than a handgun too..

What dude did at that school.. shooting children with .223 and .556 rounds literally tore those children apart. At 18, he shouldn’t have access to none of that unless he was in the military

.308 would be more destructive than a .223 and that idiot could've bought a deer hunting rifle or a M1A like pictured from Cabellas

The real reason these idiot killers use ARs is because it's a popular platform and it's been commercially developed so much that there is alot of customization and personalization that can be done and they want to live out their fantasy of looking cool with a "sexy" rifle. All these shooters are weak, they have weak minds, no will to be productive, blame others for their problems, and/or have mental illnesses that are/were unchecked.

Mass shooters choose AR-15's because they can do the most damage in the shortest amount of time. If shooters were using normal hand guns, they would have a greater chance of being restrained earlier in the situation with less damage done. At least in theory.

Virginia Tech shooter used 2 pistols to kill 32 people.

The media and politicians focusing on form over function and not knowing anything about firearms is the biggest reason why gun manufacturs will always be able to get around gun laws.

so many people still think this is an "assault rifle"

It's how the Columbine shooters got around the "assault weapons ban"

How They Got The Guns

A look at how school shooters are getting weapons so easily

www.rollingstone.com

If the US really wants to actually be able to restrict the access of weapons that can kill a bunch of people in a limited time then they would have to ban semi-automatic weapons period. Like go back to revolvers, pump action shotguns, lever action rifles, and bolt action rifles. and good luck to that.

but then again the gun industry would respond with stuff like this.

These mass shooters don't train for real but lever actions can be fast as hell, I've shot with lever actions chambered in pistol calibers at the outdoor range and the ability to hit follow up shots is real close to a semi-auto sometimes faster because they won't jam, bolt action is slower but with practice you can get fast shots off with those too. Charles Whitman killed 14 people in 1966 during the Texas Tower shooting but nobody ever talks about that for some reason and that was the closest thing to the modern day Las Vegas mass shooting.

There is no evidence to support the myth of guns as a viable means of self/home defense. In fact people who own them are more likely to die from them. Not attacking you (I mostly agree with your post), but I don't understand the cognitive dissonance. The stats show we are not safer with guns yet people still believe it.

Those stats refer to suicide, because gun owners are more likely to use them to kill themselves than people that don't own them because they don't have access to them.

 

[breakfuss]

Those stats refer to suicide, because gun owners are more likely to use them to kill themselves than people that don't own them because they don't have access to them.

Suicide is a substantial part of the problem but not exclusively. And even if it were it doesn't make what I said less true or the numbers any less sobering. Now, let's remove white men from the data. I guarantee the story drastically changes.

 

[Oatmeal]

Suicide is a substantial part of the problem but not exclusively. And even if it were it doesn't make what I said less true or the numbers any less sobering. Now, let's remove white men from the data. I guarantee the story drastically changes.

Suicide just reinforces that the true problem is the lack of mental health care and awareness/understanding. Gun owners that are mentally capable of responsible ownership don't do this mess. There are just tons of unstable people out here.

 

[the elastic]

Hardcore 2A Americans always talking about keeping the government in check....they had their chance to let their nuts hang on Jan 6 and all they did was get a female Air Force veteran slumped.

At the very least, the age should be raised along with stronger background checks. There's already too many privately owned guns out there for any real drastic change.

 

[saturn7]

C'mon breh, one of those weapons holds three times as many bullets as the other and can be reloaded five times faster.

Both of those rifles will accept 30 round magazines.

They reload the same way.
There is no difference in how they function.
They only difference is how they look.

 

[Barlow]

Worrying about these shootings is a waste of time as clearly this country just likes war and killing each other. I wish we’d just make guns fully accessible so we could just expedite this process and be who we really want to be.

 

[AngryBaby]

I dont understand why we as a species didmt invest technologically in a device that can temporarily paralyze, and subdue. We have the technology for this, yet we went straight to "kill". Really indicates that sometimes as a whole we are...a stupid species.

 

[kevm3]

Way more people are killed with pistols than rifles so banning so-called 'assault weapons', which they are not, is nonsense. Once they ban one, they will come for the other anyways. Canada has those strong gun control laws if you want to live in a society where the legal citizens are unarmed and the government also has the ability to freeze your bank account if you protest its mandates.