The supermajority was for less than 75 days."Vote to secure more points on the board". Are you fukking kidding me? The Dems had a super majority in 08 and did nothing! So how did that strategy work out? and how would it be different this time around? I guess you don't have answer because your goal is to "secure more points on the board" & not do shyt once in power. Is that the goal?
Are millennial leftists aging into right-wingers?
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Jesus H. Christ
I died for your sins
So many years do the Dems need to actually pass meaningful legislation with a super majority?
4 years? 8 years?
most of the self proclaimed "progressives" are attacking democrats, more than republicans. Which republicans, exploit politically.
you posting your rant wasn't a dismantling of anything
Republicans: 100% oppositionSo many years do the Dems need to actually pass meaningful legislation with a super majority?
4 years? 8 years?
Democrats: Less than 50% support for your particular policy
Do the math.
Jesus H. Christ
I died for your sins
Yes because progressives are clearly in power right now. Go on...
You didn't answer my question. When will these corporate dems finally pass a monumental legislation bill? With a super majority? Do they need 4 years, 8 years? 16 years?
You just proved my point that the corporate dems are incompetent.
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but but but they were only in power for 70+ days "filibusterYes because progressives are clearly in power right now. Go on...
You didn't answer my question. When will these corporate dems finally pass a monumental legislation bill? With a super majority? Do they need 4 years, 8 years? 16 years?
You just proved my point that the corporate dems are incompetent.
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Pretending things didn't pass when dems had a supermajortiy is bad faith.
Without it you wouldn't have Obamacare, which has led the way for serious arguments about universal healthcare in this country.
Without it you wouldn't have Obamacare, which has led the way for serious arguments about universal healthcare in this country.
OP thinks centrist and moderate democrats are more principled than their counterparts to the left of the spectrum
America needs to collapse
This has been clearly and forcefully debunked already in this thread and folk still repeating it like it's gospel truth. Just look at the graphs if nothing else.
Pew Research polling shows that Millennials are actually becoming more liberal, not more conservative, as they age:
The Generation Gap in American Politics
Generational differences have long been a factor in U.S. politics. These divisions are now as wide as they have been in decades, with the potential to shape politics well into the future.
www.pewresearch.org
"From immigration and race to foreign policy and the scope of government, two younger generations, Millennials and Gen Xers, stand apart from the two older cohorts, Baby Boomers and Silents. And on many issues, Millennials continue to have a distinct – and increasingly liberal – outlook."
Looking at other data and historical trends, Data for Progress believes that millennials will become slightly more conservative as they hit certain key generational moments, but the trend will be miniscule and nothing like past generations, in part because the capitalist class is helping to ensure that millennials by and large aren't getting to join them in the ruling class of traditional republicans and right-wing pro-capitalist democrats.
Progressives Control the Future
Over the next decade, as millennials reach middle age and begin turning out to vote at a higher rate, they will create a unique opportunity for progressive policymaking.
www.dataforprogress.org
"Looking beyond the formative years, there are several cultural, economic, and demographic factors that make it unlikely that we will see a large rightward shift among millennials any time soon. Millennials are getting married and having kids later than past generations, thereby delaying key life events which tend to cause voters to become more conservative. Millennials lag behind past generations in accumulating wealth, and their prospects for future wealth accumulation do not look great, removing yet another factor that can drive voters to become more conservative over time.
Millennials also lag behind past generations in home ownership and face soaring housing costs relative to their income. For the bottom of the income distribution, this is largely explained by stagnant wage growth. But for the higher end of the income distribution, whose wages have grown significantly, this is explained entirely by rising housing prices. Policies to favor housing wealth have been implemented over the past several decades, and the housing share of national income has nearly doubled over that time period. These policies are designed to inflate house prices, and the fact that now many well heeled young professionals still can not afford to buy a home is proof that they work as intended. From a political perspective, this means that a demographic that would have been likely Republicans in generations past is now largely shut out of homeownership and therefore are less likely to move rightward.
Increasing home prices, high returns on stocks, free flowing credit, and mass incarceration acted as substitutes for the large social safety nets that are typical in rich countries. But this approach relies on maintaining a base of middle class voters who are dependent on perpetuating this system. The policies that created a bloc of older voters who use the political system to fiercely defend the value of the assets they hold also created a bloc of asset-less younger voters who have no stake in an economic system that suppresses their wages and piles them with educational and consumer debt in order to fuel growth in asset prices. In fact, the current moment in politics gives us a window into an alternate version of history. Without rising home and stock prices, it is easy to imagine that middle class voters would never have tolerated the tepid economic growth and abysmal wage growth that have typified the neoliberal period.
Politics is now dominated by a new social class of petty capitalists, which includes a large number of older blue collar workers who depend on seeing returns on their property for financial security. At the opposite end of the political spectrum, a new class of grand proletarians is emerging; well educated young professionals who do not own property and whose fears of downward mobility are driving their demands for the US to adopt some semblance of social democracy. Combined with the fact that millennials are the most diverse and best educated generation at a time where racial justice movements are gaining momentum and partisanship is sorting along the lines of racism and xenophobia; we have a perfect storm for producing the stark and completely unprecedented age polarization that exists in politics today."
In part, that's my point. Democrat leadership had to choose. And more than anything they chosen to play to the mostly selfish desires of suburban white middle class liberals and their corporate employers. Which is unsurprising, considering that is who they are and who funds their lifestyle, but it needs to be called out at every opportunity.
Not everything needs to be "just" for black folk or "just" for working-class, etc. There are policies that would please black, brown, poor, young, working-class, and far-left simultaneously. Additionally, there are policies that would please small farmers and small business owners without hurting those groups (not that all policies which please them would do so, you'd have to pick and choose). You could do a LOT more to serve those groups if serving them was in your actual interest. The only people who would be upset are corporations and the most selfish of the white middle class.
Generally, the Democratic establishment has refused to do anything unless middle-class white liberals supported it. I have never once seen them push a policy for the sake of their most needy constituents if it pissed off their most well-off constituents.
OperationNumbNutts
Superstar
Actually the US figured it out a long time ago. That's why gerrymangering and other electrion practices are in performed. It's to keep the current system in place and make it virtually impossible for a third party to get power or even momentum.
imfromthesouthside
Banned
It’s not me who changed. It’s Democrats. They went far left on me. I always voted Democrat. But I can’t I’m good faith continue to do so. I will never vote Democrat again in a National election. They are way far left loony.