Are clowns suppose to be black people?

[CodeBlaMeVi]

That is interesting.

However...
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[David_TheMan]

"Other clowns"

A clown is a clown. So if it link it to clowning then it links it to all clowns.

There are no different type of clowns other than "killer clowns" in movies.

Except there are different types of clowns.
No need to argue about it, go to the wiki page on clowns and see for yourself

 

[Blackout]

Except there are different types of clowns.
No need to argue about it, go to the wiki page on clowns and see for yourself

and?

None of that disproves the clowns come from blackface claim.

We need solid evidence to disprove her claim and not some gas lighting.

 

[darryl]

All the evil shyt white people done, y'all put it past these muthfukkas

 

[David_TheMan]

and?

None of that disproves the clowns come from blackface claim.

We need solid evidence to disprove her claim and not some gas lighting.

Easy to lookup

Clown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Origin
The "clown" character develops out of the zanni "rustic fool" characters of the early modern Commedia dell'arte, which were themselves directly based on the "rustic fool" characters of ancient Greek and Roman theatre. Rustic buffoon characters in Classical Greek theater were known as sklêro-paiktês (from paizein "to play (like a child)") or deikeliktas, besides other generic terms for "rustic" or "peasant". In Roman theater, a term for clown was fossor, literally "digger; labourer".

The English word clown is first recorded c. 1560 (as clowne, cloyne) in the generic meaning "rustic, boor, peasant". The origin of the word is uncertain, perhaps from a Scandinavian word cognate with clumsy.[2] It is in this sense that "Clown" is used as the name of fool characters in Shakespeare's Othello and The Winter's Tale. The sense of clown as referring to a professional or habitual fool or jester develops soon after 1600, based on Elizabethan "rustic fool" characters such as Shakespeare's.

The Harlequinade developed in England in the 17th century, inspired by the Commedia dell'arte. It was here that "Clown" came into use as the given name of a stock character. Originally a foil for Harlequin's slyness and adroit nature, Clown was a buffoon or bumpkin fool who resembled less a jester than a comical idiot. He was a lower class character dressed in tattered servants' garb.

The now-classical features of the clown character were developed in the early 1800s by Joseph Grimaldi, who played Clown in Charles Dibdin's 1800 pantomime, Peter Wilkins: or Harlequin in the Flying World at Sadler's Wells Theatre, where Grimaldi built the character up into the central figure of the harlequinade.[3][4]

Blackface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blackface is a form of theatrical makeup used by white performers to represent a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the proliferation of stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified c00n".[1] In 1848, blackface minstrel shows were an American national art of the time, translating formal art such as opera into popular terms for a general audience.[2] Early in the 20th century, blackface branched off from the minstrel show and became a form in its own right, until it ended in the United States with the U.S. Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.[3]

Blackface was an important performance tradition in the American theater for roughly 100 years beginning around 1830. It quickly became popular elsewhere, particularly so in Britain, where the tradition lasted longer than in the U.S., occurring on primetime TV, most famously in The Black and White Minstrel Show, which ended in 1978,[4] and in Are You Being Served?'s Christmas specials in 1976[5] and finally in 1981.[6] In both the United States and Britain, blackface was most commonly used in the minstrel performance tradition, which it both predated and outlasted. Early white performers in blackface used burnt cork and later greasepaint or shoe polish to blacken their skin and exaggerate their lips, often wearing woolly wigs, gloves, tailcoats, or ragged clothes to complete the transformation. Later, black artists also performed in blackface.

 

[Blackout]

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From sources who were racist themselves.

You know damn well you wouldnt listen to Natzis opinion on Ann Frank so you listening to racist whites on something that has to do with racism is illogical.

 

[David_TheMan]

From sources who were racist themselves.

You know damn well you wouldnt listen to Natzis opinion on Ann Frank so you listening to racist whites on something that has to do with racism is illogical.

Trying to hard troll

 

[OC's finest]

So, wait. That means Ronald McDonald is a breh?

at this entire thread if tru

 

[Blackout]

Trying to hard troll

Im not illogical. Deal with it.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Im not illogical. Deal with it.

nikka, your the one pulling this clowns=black people nonsense out of thin air

 

[Blackout]

nikka, your the one pulling this clowns=black people nonsense out of thin air

You mean black face. Clowns do look like a quick change up from black face to hide racism.

Nothing is wrong about that claim.

It should be investigated like any other.

If you scared of talking about racism then go to church.

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

So, wait. That means Ronald McDonald is a breh?

Mcdonald's was clearly inspired by those west coast poplocking dance crews from the 70's.

Ron got the OG perm, the stripped tube socks and all

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

Beneath the Vatican, the Freemasons have hidden the old images of Jesus where he has a big red nose and giant shoes and he's getting out of a small car with all 12 disciples.

 

[TL15]

Easy to lookup

Clown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Blackface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So I appreciate your contribution to the thread but you are acting like "the inception of the clown" is the end all be all of "the current day iteration"

Sure...Clowne and all that other stuff that you linked to is important, but things change meaning all the time. Just because something can be traced to something does not mean that the powers that be haven't altered it so that it now has a different meaning.

I'm definitely not the most "woke" person on the coli but if you can't see that mannerisms, style of dress, etc. from clowns today and in the recent lexicon (in America) bears strong roots to racist themes from the early 1900s then you are either trolling or just not really thinking very analytically.

Big wide red smiles
Curly Afros
Jumping around
big noses
acting dumb (not silly...but actually aloof)
etc.

are all tied to minstrel shows and the white viewpoint on black people in the early 1900s

 

[Mr Rager]

Probly why cacs vibe with ICP and Tech N9ne so much. They know the history.

@Juggalo Fred