are black women really lettin they gay male friends hit?

[Poitier]

Breh I am telling you straight from a paper I did in college and I sat down and spoke to private doctors and folks who worked at the local clinic.

Even spoke to a brotha from the CDC.

And I’m telling you what you said doesn’t make sense.

A white demographic has the highest rate of HIV. A black demographic has some of the lowest. The only outliers are Black women.

 

[Serious]

Breh I am telling you straight from a paper I did in college and I sat down and spoke to private doctors and folks who worked at the local clinic.

Even spoke to a brotha from the CDC.

The stats ain't accurate.

Man this shyt is so

Its hard to quantify without having an idea of what the true prevalence is.

With that said theres definitely surveillance problems when it comes to hospitals and clinics.

Scandals like this happen all the time:

FDA Faults Hospitals For Failing To Report Safety Problems With Medical Devices

And these were big name hospitals. A lot of places just dont have the resources or manpower to accurately record data.


Another big issue is the lack of standardisation. There's so many different platforms that record data in different ways.

Problem is i cant see a wide range of white people being unaccounted for. There would have to be some trace of hiv prescription drug purchases that make the cdc statistically off. Like significantly more purchases than the prevalance.

 

[Originalman]

Man this shyt is so

Its hard to quantify without having an idea of what the true prevalence is.

With that said theres definitely surveillance problems when it comes to hospitals and clinics.

Scandals like this happen all the time:

FDA Faults Hospitals For Failing To Report Safety Problems With Medical Devices

And these were big name hospitals. A lot of places just dont have the resources or manpower to accurately record data.


Another big issue is the lack of standardisation. There's so many different platforms that record data in different ways.

Problem is i cant see a wide range of white people being unaccounted for. There would have to be some trace of hiv prescription drug purchases that make the cdc statistically off. Like significantly more purchases than the prevalance.

Breh it is all about how far the rabbit holes folks want to go into. We all know the folks at the top do not want their group identified as the most prevalent with diseases. In america and the world black folks have always had to carry that flag.

Also we have all seen reports over the last 10 to 15 years of china and russia hiding their true HIV/Aids rates. As well as rates in africa being inflated.

There is also the money aspect. As a free clinic you get funding for collecting data and treating folks. Well wouldn't it be more inclined to pressure patients to take an HIV/Aids test? Back when I did my study every woman who came into the clinic (that I dealt with) for birth control or a annual checkup was asked to take a HIV/Aids test.

Then you have HIV/Aids specialist who would tell folks who have insurance hey if you think you may have been in contact with the virus. Go to a clinic and get tested that way if you are positive you don't risk losing your insurance.

Look I am an engineer and deal with data collection. You can make data look however you want and we know folks fluff or exclude data to make shyt look a certain way.

Data is manipulated in every walk of life......why wouldn't this data be the same.

Do you remember when 9/11 happened the CDC asked people to come into clinics or work with the red cross to donate blood.

And the media mentioned that 100s and 1000s of blood that was collected was HIV/Aids positive and they had to throw the blood away. Many of the folks who had positive blood they couldn't even contact because they gave false addresses or didn't give good contact info.

Well around this time my college had a big blood drive and collected a bunch of blood from frat row (frat row at the time was all white). Speaking to one of the clinic workers who I knew (who also helped me with my grad research paper) said that a large percentage of the blood was positive for HIV/Aids and they had to throw it away.

The shyt is crazy man. When I did my paper the CDC dude literally said well at this time we don't collect HIV/Aids data from Montana and South Dakota because the rates are low. I mean how you gonna just exclude data like that. I asked wouldn't you do some research to see why those numbers are low and he was like nope we just exclude them in our study.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Gay nikkas dont give no fukks...... Even faced with deadly diseases.... They'll still be hypersexual and irresponsible..

Thats some suicidal shyt but it's their culture.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I had a grizzled old ho tell me it goes down.I'll trust her ho wisdom

 

[Originalman]

Man this shyt is so

Its hard to quantify without having an idea of what the true prevalence is.

With that said theres definitely surveillance problems when it comes to hospitals and clinics.

Scandals like this happen all the time:

FDA Faults Hospitals For Failing To Report Safety Problems With Medical Devices

And these were big name hospitals. A lot of places just dont have the resources or manpower to accurately record data.


Another big issue is the lack of standardisation. There's so many different platforms that record data in different ways.

Problem is i cant see a wide range of white people being unaccounted for. There would have to be some trace of hiv prescription drug purchases that make the cdc statistically off. Like significantly more purchases than the prevalance.

I wanted to add yes and no. A few years ago I took my aunt to mexico for experimental cancer treatment. You would be surprised at the number of white folks from america who go there for treatment on diseases like cancer, HIV/AIDs and etc.

You can get all the treatment and medicine you need and just walk or ride right across the boarder at a qtr of the price you would pay in america. I got cancer medicine for my aunt that costs like 3k a year for only like 500 bucks.

 

[tater]

You only need a couple 100 people in a sample for a negligible margin of error.

The CDC + private doctor theory doesn’t make sense. White gay men have the highest rates of HIV and straight Black men have relatively low rates. The only outlier are straight Black women.

Also, are people pretending White politicians, religious leaders, media figures who seemingly live normal heterosexual conservative lives aren’t being outed as gay daily?

100 people in a sample is a small sample size and wouldn't be a good size to replicate and apply to many situations. Most of those clinics are located in a central area which will yield a mostly homogenous sample size of people in terms of employment, economics, educational level, etc. Also he's correct in telling you private clinics do not have to report stats to the government. That would also contribute to the homogeneity of the sample size, as people with money aren't normally going to be going to free clinics.

 

[Poitier]

100 people in a sample is a small sample size and wouldn't be a good size to replicate and apply to many situations. Most of those clinics are located in a central area which will yield a mostly homogenous sample size of people in terms of employment, economics, educational level, etc. Also he's correct in telling you private clinics do not have to report stats to the government. That would also contribute to the homogeneity of the sample size, as people with money aren't normally going to be going to free clinics.

I said couple of 100s, not 100. The CDC uses 100,000s which is more than enough.

The theory doesn't even make sense given that White men have the highest rates of HIV/AIDS.
And if it were simply a private doctor/clinic thing then we'd expect straight Black men/women to have similar rates. They don't.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

nah it's real breh


they'll always be around their gay friends and then get drunk + high around them too


the sex is happening... seen it a couple times in my lifetime.

Yikes!

 

[Originalman]

100 people in a sample is a small sample size and wouldn't be a good size to replicate and apply to many situations. Most of those clinics are located in a central area which will yield a mostly homogenous sample size of people in terms of employment, economics, educational level, etc. Also he's correct in telling you private clinics do not have to report stats to the government. That would also contribute to the homogeneity of the sample size, as people with money aren't normally going to be going to free clinics.

True sista and when shyt goes down the CDC isn't always involved. So for example when I was in college in a small southern town a high school mostly white and well to do had a HIV out break amoungst some kids. The CDC or clinic was no involved in the matter.

But during the same time there was a outbreak of HIV in public housing area involving men sleeping with one woman. The men had got tested in the local clinic. The clinic asked for residence in that public housing who had contact with those men and that woman to come in and get tested.

Also as far as the public and private doctors I know this for fact because two men who my parents went to college with were both professionals and HIV positive. They would go to the clinic to get their HIV meds so that their insurance didn't find out. Sadly both died from AIDS complications in the mid 90s.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Gay or bisexual

 

[L&HH]

My girl went to a concert last night her gay co worker

Oh they was in concert alright

 

[KOOL-AID]

I love how only like three coli females chimed in but any other thread

 

[ignorethis]

I did a study in grad school about this. Basically the numbers are not accurate because it only takes numbers from areas deemed high risk. Certain states stats are also excluded. Plus the stats also only come from health clinics. Private doctors usually don't provide these stats because it is a risk to their patients who can lose their insurance if it is known that they have HIV or Aids.

So for example you are a poor sista or brotha who has no insurance you go to a clinic for health care or screening. The first thing they ask for is would you like a aids/hiv test. This is part of the government funding that the clinic gets.

If you are a well to do person or not poor you go to a private doctor when you are sick or need a check up. They do not ask you would you like an aids/hiv test. There is no need to know because if a patient comes up positive their insurance will kick them off.

So the CDC stats with aids/hiv, pregnancy, abortions and stds are off and don't paint an accurate picture.

I used to believe this theory, but if Healthcare aid is similar to other forms of government aid demographics wise, chances are there are just as many poor white women going to clinics using government aid if not more white women just off population differences.

That theory is based off the fallacy that black use the most welfare but we've seen several time whites use welfare/aid of all sort just as much as blacks if not more than blacks.

That might have been an explanation if we were talking about there being a difference in the percentage of the entire white/black populations that have HIV/AIDS, but when we talking about raw numbers of new HIV cases diagnosed, there would be just as many poor high risk white women to sample from for the CDC if not more.

Even then look at the Hispanic stats, even Hispanic women are low risk as fukk compared to black women and I'm pretty sure they get medical care using government aid just as much if not more.

You would have to be arguing there is a hidden HIV epidemic going on among middle/upperclass white women that the media is just keeping a secret, and that veers too much into conspiracy theory for me.

HIV/AIDS is a big issue for Black America, but powers that be aren't blasting it because for once there is no way you can spin this into being the fault of straight black men. Even though they try to like @Poitier said with the "DL men infect black women due to the fact homophobia by straight black men forces them to be DL"

 

[Originalman]

I used to believe this theory, but if Healthcare aid is similar to other forms of government aid demographics wise, chances are there are just as many poor white women going to clinics using government aid if not more white women just off population differences.

That theory is based off the fallacy that black use the most welfare but we've seen several time whites use welfare of all sort if not more than blacks.

Breh if you read what I wrote I said this stuff is coming directly from folks involved in this.

They are even saying the facts aint accurate. If a CDC guy says we throw out the stats in a state such as south dakota and Montana that means the data is flawed. That is like telling your boss you throw out yield data on a assembly line for all the work done on the 2nd and 3rd shift.

Second we all know women go to the doctor more than men just off the fact of birth control. They are gonna go to the doctor for birth control pills and their depo shots. When going to the free clinic they would have to get an annual and to get the free pills and or shot.

Last this isn't really about just HIV/AIDS this is about abortion rates and STDs. A woman who goes to a private doctor to have an abortion or to get tested for herpes that stat ain't being collected by the CDC. But that stat is being collected by the a public clinic/CDC.

Finally as I said Russia and China been hiding their HIV/AIDS stats for 30 years. Why would it be shocking if america is cooking numbers or throwing out data on white folks.