are black women really lettin they gay male friends hit?

[Neuromancer]

As much as these type of women try to villianize masculinity, these types of women will also have to become comfortable with dating bisexual men.

Just remember that all black women do NOT think this way. It’s a loud minority.

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Black women who think in terms of the black family dynamic need to be protected and respected.

 

[Okocha]

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Black women who think in terms of the black family dynamic need to be protected and respected.

How do you protect these women, when a lot of them are sympathetic to the agenda or they support the agenda. I think this is something black women have to figure out on their own.

 

[Neuromancer]

How do you protect these women, when a lot of them are sympathetic to the agenda or they support the agenda. I think this is something black women have to figure out on their own.

@LovelyOne83 Do you agree with this? How are you combating the agenda?Are you vocal about your disagreement?

 

[Poitier]

I dunno breh, all the research I've been seeing, and even in this thread, say otherwise. Black gay males have the highest # overall, and black straight females have the highest # out of the heterosexual groups. You right that black straight females seem to be the outlier, but isn't that the premise of the thread?...that they're being infected by the gay/dl bm? Especially since the # for straight black guys is less than half compared to straight bw, meaning they're more than likely getting infected by another group, eg. gay/dl bm

You aren't considering anal sex is the main mode of infection.

I'm not denying dudes aren't out here on the DL and responsible for a large portion of infections.

But you really think every black women out here doing anal with their nikka are all ignorant to their sexual orientation?

 

[25YOUTHS!!]

You aren't considering anal sex is the main mode of infection.

I'm not denying dudes aren't out here on the DL and responsible for a large portion of infections.

But you really think every black women out here doing anal with their nikka are all ignorant to their sexual orientation?

Of course it's known that anal sex is the primary mode of transmission, hence why that's the biggest risk factor regardless of race. I just don't agree with the premise that black women are knowingly having anal sex with dudes that are on the dl /gay more than other races of women, especially to a level where it explains the difference in HIV incidence rates. If the HIV prevalence stats are to be believed, it's more likely due to the fact that they have a higher chance of encountering an HIV+ black guy when they DO have anal sex in general.

I was referring to the quote below. The graph you posted is from 2015 and the one I linked is from 2016, in which the total # switched b/t gay black and white men. Regardless, since the total # are even close, and the fact that white men make up 31% of the population vs 6% for black men, should give you an idea of the discrepancy in the RATE. I also don't see anything about any black demographic (gay, straight etc.) being the lowest in their respective categories, hence why I said there might be some truth to the reporting discrepancies, especially considering the lack of such discrepancies in regards to other STI's.

And I’m telling you what you said doesn’t make sense.

A white demographic has the highest rate of HIV. A black demographic has some of the lowest. The only outliers are Black women.

 

[Poitier]

I just don't agree with the premise that black women are knowingly having anal sex with dudes that are on the dl /gay more than other races of women, especially to a level where it explains the difference in HIV incidence rates. If the HIV prevalence stats are to be believed, it's more likely due to the fact that they have a higher chance of encountering an HIV+ black guy when they DO have anal sex in general.

How are they getting to anal sex in the 1st place? C'mon fam. You say like there isn't a connection there.
That would mean you think straight men are engaging in penetrative anal sex routinely and I don't buy that.

I was referring to the quote below. The graph you posted is from 2015 and the one I linked is from 2016, in which the total # switched b/t gay black and white men. Regardless, since the total # are even close, and the fact that white men make up 31% of the population vs 6% for black men, should give you an idea of the discrepancy in the RATE. I also don't see anything about any black demographic (gay, straight etc.) being the lowest in their respective categories, hence why I said there might be some truth to the reporting discrepancies, especially considering the lack of such discrepancies in regards to other STI's.

Poverty = higher infections worldwide where the HIV/Aids virus took root. Thats why our rates are higher across the board excluding gay White men. Doesn't change the fact that heterosexual Black women are outliers. Doesn't change the fact that the sample sizes are huge enough to be more than reliable.

 

[southern.girl]

How do you protect these women, when a lot of them are sympathetic to the agenda or they support the agenda. I think this is something black women have to figure out on their own.

@LovelyOne83 Do you agree with this? How are you combating the agenda?Are you vocal about your disagreement?

Dr. Tommy Curry said something in an interview that really stuck out to me and answers the first quote. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "many black people lose a bit of their identity when educated by white schools and adopt the talking points of white liberals. It's these people who are given the opportunity to speak for poor black folk, and many times, they are conflating the overall black experience with the negative tropes that have been used to define & misrepresent our community." I agree with this...even as a person who also graduated from a PWI.

There's a strong difference between supporting women and being a the stereotypical feminist. I don't think we define that line often enough. As an example, lets compare supporting Monique vs Terry Ellis Ross. Monique brought attention to the pay gap between whites & blacks a long time ago...after Precious, to be exact. She then brought up the conversation about the women's pay gap and made sure to (1) state that she fully supported the black comedians that were paid well & that they deserve it and (2) still mentioned the racial pay gap. Monique also has a black family and always has promoted the black community in her own way. Comparatively, and unfortunately, TER focused on her costar who only gets paid $20k more than her per episode and AA also does more work than her. Most importantly, she never even mentions the racial pay gap. I personally think her recent social post was damage control.

I speak up when I can or have the energy to (online). But to be honest, in my personal life, most of my friends are in happy marriages. So I never have to argue with them about supporting black men or black masculinity b/c they are already on code.

 

[Neuromancer]

Dr. Tommy Curry said something in an interview that really stuck out to me and answers the first quote. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "many black people lose a bit of their identity when educated by white schools and adopt the talking points of white liberals. It's these people who are given the opportunity to speak for poor black folk, and many times, they are conflating the overall black experience with the negative tropes that have been used to define & misrepresent our community." I agree with this...even as a person who also graduated from a PWI.

There's a strong difference between supporting women and being a the stereotypical feminist. I don't think we define that line often enough. As an example, lets compare supporting Monique vs Terry Ellis Ross. Monique brought attention to the pay gap between whites & blacks a long time ago...after Precious, to be exact. She then brought up the conversation about the women's pay gap and made sure to (1) state that she fully supported the black comedians that were paid well & that they deserve it and (2) still mentioned the racial pay gap. Monique also has a black family and always has promoted the black community in her own way. Comparatively, and unfortunately, TER focused on her costar who only gets paid $20k more than her per episode and AA also does more work than her. Most importantly, she never even mentions the racial pay gap. I personally think her recent social post was damage control.

I speak up when I can or have the energy to (online). But to be honest, in my personal life, most of my friends are in happy marriages. So I never have to argue with them about supporting black men or black masculinity b/c they are already on code.

Well said. I think there should be a separate the two as well.

 

[ogc163]

This shyt is crazy

 

[Neuromancer]

How are they getting to anal sex in the 1st place? C'mon fam. You say like there isn't a connection there.
That would mean you think straight men are engaging in penetrative anal sex routinely and I don't buy that.




Poverty = higher infections worldwide where the HIV/Aids virus took root. Thats why our rates are higher across the board excluding gay White men. Doesn't change the fact that heterosexual Black women are outliers. Doesn't change the fact that the sample sizes are huge enough to be more than reliable.

If you eat ass you gay.