Apple retail union organizers want workers to be paid at least $30 per hour

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No it won't. It's an empty threat they use so the bosses don't have to take pay cuts to pay their employees.

If the cost is too high, people won't buy and they know it. Its the same as when they threaten to off shore the jobs. The balance of power over the last 50 years has swung wildly to the bosses and managers when for decades before it was in the hands of labor. Thats when america was 'great'

This is the another thing our generation doesn't get.

We live in an era of waste so the concept of not buying shyt is alien to some of these clowns.

If people look at the features on their new phones, they'd realise that they stopped needing upgrades 10 years ago.

And I think it would be a good thing if people reached that understanding. We are needlessly wasting resources.

I think the only reason I have upgraded my phone is because the battery went to shyt, which wasn't a problem with older phones as it was easy to replace.
 

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The biggest myth ever told is that paying workers more would have a catastrophic effect on a companies bottom line. Amazon gave their lowest tier workers a raise from $14 to $19.50 and it didnt affect their bottom line at all, in fact their share prices have gone up since then.

McDonald's paying $15 an hour and still making an ungodly amount of cash.

You'll never convince me that Apple, a company that pays Chinese kids pennies on the dollar to manufacture $1500 phones and rakes in billions a year in profits, cant afford to pay a living wage. I dont care if people feel like service work isnt dignified enough to deserve decent pay.

its like when people say you're paying $200 for a shoe that cost $15
if I gave you $15 dollars you couldnt make a shoe
apple has to create an infrastructure that can create their products
the infrastructure is the thing of value which people don't understand
a retail person making $30 is kinda wild they are not even skilled
And thinking the share price is representative of the health of a business is laughable
 
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30 an hr is no where near an appropriate wage for a retail worker. :comeon:


Man, I swear only broke people speak like this.

Have you ever worked at apple? You act is if all they do is simply sell phones which is far from true and if that’s the case you can say that about any company that sells products or services.
 

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No it won't. It's an empty threat they use so the bosses don't have to take pay cuts to pay their employees.

If the cost is too high, people won't buy and they know it. Its the same as when they threaten to off shore the jobs. The balance of power over the last 50 years has swung wildly to the bosses and managers when for decades before it was in the hands of labor. Thats when america was 'great'

It will you can say the extra cost won't hurt you.
but the cost is going to get passed to the consumer
 

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do you understand money is a construct
if they get more money only thing that will happen is apple will raise prices
the people in control of the assets and business will always be on top
all it does is make more people poor and the rich richer
That’s what they want you to believe
 

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It will you can say the extra cost won't hurt you.
but the cost is going to get passed to the consumer
Think about it. If the cost goes up and nobody buys, will they let the company go bankrupt?

Can you actually see APPLE going bankrupt and shutting down because they pay their employees a living wage? When has something like that EVER happened?

If you can't afford to pay your employees, you have a bad business that deserves to fail in a free market. If you consider yourself a capitalist, you already know that if they fail, another company will do what they do and do it better.

The bigger a company gets, the less competitors can stand against it and the product or service stagnates in quality. If Apple loses money and stops being a juggernaut it means that you as a consumer will have more and better options.
 

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the formation of a amazon union has put the battery in the back of a lot of labor.:wow:


As it should. This shyt has to change. Even people in the working class have been conditioned to frown their faces up when labor starts asking for their share. Apple is one of the richest companies in the world, making an absolute insane margin on the shyt they sell and paying fukk all in taxes. They could pay their people 30 an hour minimum and still rake in countless billions in profit every quarter. The pay would be a fukking speed bump for these mf.

Its wild, but Labors biggest opposition is going to be crabs in the bucket mindset mfers who work for other shytty companies who don't want to see them win because it will make those naysayers feel worse about themselves.

Can't get ahead as a whole, because mfers hate to see someone else win a little.
 

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That’s what they want you to believe
can you explain
so when Apple raises the minimum to $30 dollars you think Apple is gonna raise the wages of people already making $30 too
and you think Apple is gonna keep their prices the same as well
I am trying to understand your take
 

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Target offering $24 and hour in some places with health care and 401K:manny:
If we going by tiers in terms of prestige, its Apple > Target > Walmart usually

Target boosts its starting pay for some jobs to $24 an hour, part of $300M investment in workforce

Target announced Monday that it is raising its starting wage for workers in some positions to up to $24.

The Minneapolis-based retailer said the increase will apply to hourly workers at its discount stores, supply chain facilities and headquarters.

Target in 2020 set its minimum wage at $15. That will remain in place, but Target said some workers will qualify for higher starting pay based on the nature of their job and the prevailing competitive wages in their local market.

Target, which employs more than 350,000 workers and has over 1,900 US stores, said the hike in some starting wages is part of its plan to spend an additional $300 million on its workforce. That investment also includes expanding access to healthcare benefits for hourly workers, beginning in April.

Under the plan, Target's hourly employees who work a minimum average of 25 hours a week will be eligible to enroll in a company medical plan. That's down from the previous requirement of 30 hours per week.

The retailer is also shortening the waiting period for eligible hourly team members to enroll in a Target medical plan. Depending on their position, employees will be able to get comprehensive health care benefits three to nine months sooner. Employees will also get faster access to 401(k) plans.

The changes come as more retailers and restaurant chains have moved to a $15 an hour minimum rate.

Amazon raised its starting wage to $15 in 2018, while Best Buy bumped up its minimum to $15 in 2020. Walmart, the largest US retailer, said in September that its workers who handle the front end of the store, food and general merchandise units will get at least a dollar an hour increase to $12. The pay raise would cover 565,000 Walmart workers.

Target's move comes amid an ongoing worker shortage in the retail industry, partly triggered by the pandemic, as companies across the board struggle to retain and hire more workers.

"Alongside the health risks, uncertainty and stress of working during a pandemic, many service-sector workers continue to contend with chronically unpredictable and unstable work schedules," according to a recent report from the Shift Project, a joint venture by Harvard University and the University of California, San Francisco.
 

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