AOC & Congressional Progressives push back on Jimmy Dore and premature Medicare For All floor votes

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Medicare For All has become religion to these people. It’s insane. You can’t even suggest an alternative universal plan without being destroyed. Or if you point to how we basically should go the path of Australia system or Japan or Germany’s cause those systems would be much more transferable to the USA context.

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This is all true. These online leftists just don’t want to hear it. 2020 was a disaster for progressives.



I see people are trying to move like all those people came out and voted for progressive ideas when they really was just tired of Trump. Progressives make great points.... for 2024. But for 2020, you have to be careful with progressives controlling the narrative. They come off all wrong.
 

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That's how I feel.

On the one hand, it'll fail, and everybody knows it'll fail, but if you were really dead set on M4A, all this other shyt sounds like juelzing. :yeshrug:

Also, I know this will be super controversial, but I have been very critical of the way the left purposely and disingenuously conflates 'Medicare for all' with 'universal healthcare' and overstates its true popularity, or just flat out lies about it. I feel like part of the reason some of these progressives are too shook to force the vote is because they know they'll get exposed, and it won't be entirely because the establishment is "beholden to the wills of the private insurance companies" or "they just don't want you to have healthcare in the middle of a pandemic."
There's polls out showing that m4a and all of that are popular and people actually ran on that. You think people wouldn't want that and would like to keep the private insurance companies in the middle of a pandemic?
 

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