AOC & Congressional Progressives push back on Jimmy Dore and premature Medicare For All floor votes
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This idea is remarkably stupid. Putting on ‘performative art’ makes a fukking joke about the very real people that’s being fought for. Similar to the kinte cloth in may/june. Progressives get nowhere at all remaining a permanent protest party. It defeats the purpose of everything. Barack and Michelle has 90% approval ratings among democrats, Schumer 70-75%, Pelosi 66%. If AOC committed to spend this term fighting them, what happens?
Briahna is a fukking moron. Just a stupid person yelling. This is embarrassing.
Differnt policy different circumstances.
AnonymityX1000
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You should quote them.
AnonymityX1000
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Big difference there between Obama and Pelosi and Pelosi is pretty low for your own party.
It’s going to go back up when she’s with Biden smiling passing bills and not powerlessly trying to stop Trump. Point is that Nancy is far too popular among democrats to go full fukk Pelosi.
AnonymityX1000
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Eh, I think she's vulnerable and a play like this could further expose her. It's trending down due to her holding back the stimulus.
King Kreole
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Whole argument is a house of cards built on the faulty assumption that the vast majority of people in this country (90% of Democrats and 50% of Republicans) would be down to ride for M4A because of that one half-baked poll whose numbers drastically fall when looking at the actual implications of M4A. Ain't no one rioting against their local Dem rep who doesn't vote for M4A right now. And even if they would, why would it take a floor vote, why not just ask them to co-sponsor or pledge to support M4A or you'll vote for their primary opponent? We just had the sentient manifestation of M4A run in the Democratic primary and get his clock cleaned by the man who publicly said he'd veto M4A even if it passed Congress. Yet these people completely ignore that result because it doesn't fit their desired outcome, so they hold onto that 1 poll like it's the holy grail. I honestly think a lot of this is just psychological inability to come to terms with the results of the 2020 Democratic primary, so a lot of them see this as a re-do.
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Bernie losing the primary wasn't during a pandemic that is still lurching and spiking in some parts of the United States. The terrain now is different, the job market is tanking, some parts of the country restaurants can't open. Getting sound bites of people shytting on M4A during a pandemic and these conditions is like 50 years worth of negative political ads. The further we get away from the moment the more ridiculous it will look. It's a good strategy.
Exactly. They shifted on Kamala and warrens plans for even easing into m4a. Bernies bill isn’t even instant. They don’t know what they want but they want it now.
Biden providing a public option would give the USA what Germany had a century ago!
imagine implementing any thing with bernies name on it. Laughable. The guy has built a career on literally avoiding details.
Ok. Then what?
theres no m4a bill with any actual details. It’s arguably worse than the green new deal stunt bill.
Impeachment was for history.
we already have cosponsors on a Bill most democrats don’t support yet
for example we passed a Bill on marijuana and are waiting for the house.
It’s not even an actual Bill. There’s no details worked out. Until now it wasn’t a serious proposition. Bernie had the least detailed plan of any candidate.