Anyone Who Agrees With Erykah Badu Is An Idiot

[Gold]

Thats my (and OP's) point. Clothes are a non-issue when we talk about sexual harassment. I've been reading about this story on twitter, and other websites and have been listening to women talk about their experiences with being sexually harassed even while dressed conservatively. It has to do with women's bodies and how they are over sexualized in the media. Not the clothing covering their bodies. Thats my point. You said you would have your daughter dress a certain way (putting the onus on her) to "lessen" the bullshyt she will have to deal with from certain men, and I'm telling you that in this patriarchal society where women's bodies are over sexualized, and viewed as property up for grabs, that its not going to matter how much or how little your daughter has on. She might still have to put up with bullshyt from certain men. So the issue still exists.

Please stop equating sexual harassment with racism, It makes you look unintelligent

As for your point, I agree that women are oversexualized. Which is why I would want my daughter to deal with as little of that as she could.

But she will still deal with it, its unavoidable in the real world

 

[Knuckles Red]

Please stop equating sexual harassment with racism, It makes you look unintelligent

How?

 

[Gold]

How?

A racist dislikes black people no matter what they are wearing, saying, doing.
However a teenager, even if he's not a rapist or a perv, can be distracted by the clothing of a woman.

You acting only rapist check women out like the same way only racist discriminate.

No, that's not how it works buddy


The fact that I have to explain this is beyond me.



Put a half naked women in front of you and 99% of the coli isn't gonna learn a single thing in that class, and she will get looks and maybe even hear some shyt that will distract her.

Doesn't mean everyone in that class would talk to, make a move on, or rape her.

Ya'll being way too obtuse to discuss nuanced matters.


I'm gonna go to gym where shyt is simple

 

[Knuckles Red]

A racist dislikes black people no matter what they are wearing, saying, doing.
However a teenager, even if he's not a rapist or a perv, can be distracted by the clothing of a woman.

You acting only rapist check women out like the same way only racist discriminate.

No, that's not how it works buddy


The fact that I have to explain this is beyond me.

You're adding a new factor to the discussion that I wasn't even talking about. I was talking about sexual harassment and rape. Things that women have to deal with no matter how conservatively they are

dressed. I was comparing them [racism and sexism] as way of giving you perspective because both of those issues are relative in a white supremacist patriarchal society where black bodies are often over

sexualized and criminalized. I wasn't saying that one issue was exactly like the other in all of its consequences. This conversation is much bigger than a teenager getting distracted.

 

[Still FloW]

A lot of them are the same ones that had an issue with Ayesha Curry saying she only shows her goods to her husband. shyt is wild

fam these women just wanna be thots with no consequences.. its wild out here yo

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Let's come at it from another angle for some of you people to get it

Which one would you rather have teaching your teenage son if you had a choice? Which one are you more comfortable with?

...I mean they're both teachers right. If it really doesn't matter what a woman wears. Both of them are obviously attractive so you can't say I'm being biased and comparing unlike examples, but one is dressed appropriate for the teaching environment, and the other one looks like teaching is her second source of income. Obviously some of you don't give a fukk what the female students are wearing, but what about the teachers? Still think not having a dress code is a good idea?

 

[Originalman]

This is a straw man argument because this isn't just about predators and rapists tho. This mainly about what's appropriate and not appropriate to wear in a school environment. Short skirts and other provocative wear made to accentuate the body doesn't have a place in a school environment. You people are clouding the issue in order to dodge the point.

Breh I have worked at a job where they would send a specific white girl to go back home due to the clothes she wore.

The girl would purposely where clothes go attract attention from men. She would come to work with skirts that were skin tight and with her breast out. The clothes would make Kelly Bundy blush.

She would even say to folks on the slay I am gonna where this and this to work tomorrow and watch all the men come to my cube.

Her manager (a woman) and the HR manager (a woman) had to basically sit down and talk to her that if she kept dressing like that they would fire her.

Anyway man this stuff ain't about rape culture this is specifically about the a mom talking about young girls not dressing provocative to school.

Also let's be honest we damn well know father's and mothers for years have said the same shyt. Not because of rape culture but because they know the attention going girls dressing like that can attract from boys and grown men. Young girls (and young boys) are impressionable and can be an easy target as well (especially for the R-Kellys of the world).

Same folks who are complaining about Erica are the same ones that go to an elementary school or high school and say were is this girls momma and daddy at. She out here dressed like a grown woman with makeup, high heels and a skirt on.

 

[Originalman]

Guess my wife and the other mothers I know who have told their young daughters that they can only wear age appropriate clothes believe in rape culture too.

 

[Originalman]

A racist dislikes black people no matter what they are wearing, saying, doing.
However a teenager, even if he's not a rapist or a perv, can be distracted by the clothing of a woman.

You acting only rapist check women out like the same way only racist discriminate.

No, that's not how it works buddy


The fact that I have to explain this is beyond me.



Put a half naked women in front of you and 99% of the coli isn't gonna learn a single thing in that class, and she will get looks and maybe even hear some shyt that will distract her.

Doesn't mean everyone in that class would talk to, make a move on, or rape her.

Ya'll being way too obtuse to discuss nuanced matters.


I'm gonna go to gym where shyt is simple

Breh not to take it to church but I will on this. Do you know even at many churches they will sit the women dressed provocative (I am sure you have seen folks wear their club clothes to church) at the back of the church and not in the front row.

I remember as a teenager I asked my aunt why they were doing this. She was like because those girls would sit in the front with their short shift skirts and open their legs when the pastor and or choir was singing to get the attention of the men.

 

[freetroit]

Let's come at it from another angle for some of you people to get it

Which one would you rather have teaching your teenage son if you had a choice? Which one are you more comfortable with?

...I mean they're both teachers right. If it really doesn't matter what a woman wears. Both of them are obviously attractive so you can't say I'm being biased and comparing unlike examples, but one is dressed appropriate for the teaching environment, and the other one looks like teaching is her second source of income. Obviously some of you don't give a fukk what the female students are wearing, but what about the teachers? Still think not having a dress code is a good idea?

thats a good question plus the teachers arent children so the second teacher is perfectly fine teaching your sons right?

 

[Max Power]

Notice how all the more mature women with children agree with Badu.

The moral of the story is that young chicks are idiots.

 

[Taadow]

That point about putting down the bottle and being responsible I agree with. I agree with OP. Fellas, we gotta listen when women speak about issues that affect them more than they do us. What I'm hearing is women/girls want to feel safe in whatever they choose to wear. They don't want to worry about a shirt being cut too low because some guy can't control himself.

My dude - who's to say this issue affects them more than us?

"women/girls want to feel safe in whatever they choose to wear" - ME TOO!
But I know that if I wear a red hat on 59th & Hoover, there could very well be serious reprocussions
because that's really not the right environment for that! I learned that lesson when I was a young boy,
and i'm glad I did - some people never learned that and aren't here to tell.

 

[Jean Jacket]

You can't be serious OP. So you would send your 14 daughter to school in revealing clothing?
Think about the shyt that you're saying. They are kids, not adults breh.

 

[SeveroDrgnfli]

My dude - who's to say this issue affects them more than us?

"women/girls want to feel safe in whatever they choose to wear" - ME TOO!
But I know that if I wear a red hat on 59th & Hoover, there could very well be serious reprocussions
because that's really not the right environment for that! I learned that lesson when I was a young boy,
and i'm glad I did - some people never learned that and aren't here to tell.

Good point. It affects us black men too. But the issue of one's style of dress leading to sexual predation affects women more than men I think. As a black man I agree with you one hundred percent about the larger argument.

 

[XII]

But whatever breh, some people are rooted in this idea that we live in a world that is just a few conversations away from perfection.

"Just teach your sons not to rape and there will be no rape" Yeah... cuz fathers are out there teaching their kids to rape. That's where it all comes from...

B bu bu but we opened a dialogue

We had an open and honest discussion on the subject

Why has nothing been solved