anyone else confused by black christians?

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and to answer your question, yes. i just don't believe the answer is as cut and dry as heaven/hell, satan/god, angels/demons. there could be a higher power. we could spliced from alien dna, this could be a computer simulation not unlike the matrix. we could be in a snow globe on some kids dresser in another universe; who fukking knows :why:

that's my point, none of us legitimately knows what happens after you die. except we have a bunch of religious people fronting like they've got it understood because of dated books.

at least w/atheist; their views can be changed with evidence. christians work solely on faith; they don't require actual proof.
 

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That's ducktales, my man, and didn't happen. Many slaveholders actually forbade slaves to attend religious services because they didn't believe they had 'souls'.



No, they actually taught themselves. The idea of a 'Black' Jesus originated from African slaves during the middle of the 17th Century. Read some W.E.B. DuBois.



Your question makes no sense.

you still haven't acknowledged that cacs brought christianity to africa


and christianity was forced upon black slaves; they just didn't worship along side with whites :why:
 

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i'm not atheist, i'm agnostic; and i'm still trying to figure out why y'all railing against atheism instead of explaining your faith :ufdup:

Why do I need to explain my faith? I maintain my faith because it has a highly beneficial effect on my life. The standards and principles within the Bible have cultivated me to be a much better individual than I would have been otherwise. Acknowledging God gives me much more peace and soundness of mind Being a follower of Jesus has had a powerful effect on my life.

The whites 'brought' Christianity, but then again, they 'brought' atheism/agnosticism in it's current format as you often see it lived today. Rarely do I see truly 'original', aka 'critical thinking' from many message board atheists/agnostics. Rather, I see a mish-mash of regurgitations from guys such as Bill Maher, Hawkins and those of similar thought. Let's not forget Karl Marx, since this line is so often spouted online: "Religion is the opium of the people". Yeah, that came from Karl Marx, the fella whose political system has been a complete failure and has brought about poverty and authoritarianism.
 

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marcuz said:
you still haven't acknowledged that cacs brought christianity to africa

That's because I don't acknowledge unsupported legends and dogma. What IS fact is that Christianity was in North, West and East Africa by the 3rd Century.

and christianity was forced upon black slaves; they just didn't worship along side with whites :why:

No, it wasn't. Slaves practiced their own religions in secret. If the slave owner allowed them to practice religion, they practiced their own which consisted of Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism & African Folk religions. Some slaves were allowed to worship alongside their owners, some slaves could only worship in the presence of their owners, some were denied any form of worship.
 

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fuk does how long africans been practicing a superstition have to do with a homo erectus skull/skeletons (along with all its/our predecessors) that' are older than all of religion itself?

:dwillhuh:


what is the debate, what points are we trying to prove to one another now? i forgot.

The whole adam/eve never existing thing kinda ends the whole Jesus fairy tale debate for me, and this is coming from a former Christian


Africans been practicing voodoo long before all that shyt b, I guess we should get down with that then too

:yeshrug:
 

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fuk does how long africans been practicing a superstition have to do with a homo erectus skulls/skeletons (along with all its/our predecessors) that' are older than all of religion itself?

:dwillhuh:


what is the debate, what points are we trying to prove to one another now? i forgot.

The whole adam/eve never existing thing kinda ends the whole Jesus fairy tale debate for me, and this is coming from a former Christian


Africans been practicing voodoo long before all that shyt b, I guess we should get down with that then too

:yeshrug:


honestly it's just another side argument that's irrelevant. they want to argue that christianity was already in africa, so it's okay to worship it; even though cacs are the ones who brought it here, and it's not the same version of christianity forced upon black slaves over hundreds of years in america.

either way, if they were christians; how much does it really change? nothing to me, i'm still wondering why people believe stories written by people who thought the earth was flat. :wow:

you can have perfectly smart, logical people turn full on retarded when it comes to their religious beliefs.
 

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lol black people believe that being Christian actually made white people see them as any less non-human.
 

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honestly it's just another side argument that's irrelevant. they want to argue that christianity was already in africa, so it's okay to worship it; even though cacs are the ones who brought it here, and it's not the same version of christianity forced upon black slaves over hundreds of years in america.

either way, if they were christians; how much does it really change? nothing to me, i'm still wondering why people believe stories written by people who thought the earth was flat. :wow:

you can have perfectly smart, logical people turn full on retarded when it comes to their religious beliefs.



real spit tho.



Seems like yal are just talking in circles.



I used to be on that back to africa tip until I realized that its hot as fuk over there and I prefer 60 degrees or less :ninja2:



I don't give a fuk bout what them nikkas worshiped bro, but I am glad they had something to worship, especially those slaves. Religion gives folks hope when there is none :to:


fairy tales can be very powerful bro.




I am a former witness of that delusion :noah:



Kev stated something to the effect of "have u ever question atheism?" or summin' like that. Yet straight ignores cats like me and many others who used to believe the very same shyt he did. Took the bible literally and was "opened" to the possibility of a rapture. You're not curious at all as to how or why someone who once subscribed to the same exact ideas as you do could just drop it like a hot potato?


:dwillhuh:


And I'm not really technically even an atheist "Atheist". And most folks who call themselves atheist will admit this also (Even Richard Dawkins) I just think that there's way too much obvious bullshyt in organized religion for anyone with half a brain to take that shyt literally.



Everyone is an atheist and yet no one is an atheist to keep it completely 100.




Most religious people are quick to say they don't subscribe to a particular god that someone else believes in....thus making them atheist.





We who call ourselves atheist KNOW that modern organized religion is fairy tales but we don't have any answers to the question of existence other than there was no time before existence because time didn't exist (when I hear that I go :dwillhuh: then quickly forget about it by thinking about a sexy pawg or summin)
:yeshrug:




and As far as the whole "something from nothing argument, there must be a god because we're here aren't we" stuff that people often say....





I'm not against the idea of there being some part of the puzzle that I/and we collectivity as human beings do not yet understand but I do think its kinda gay just to make shyt up which is essentially what religion does.





And technically its our fault (man) We're gay like that and love to pretend to know something we have no knowledge of. The first religion was probably started by some nikka who just wanted to impress hoes with his made up wisdom about existence to get some p*ssy
:smugfavre:





If it wasn't for that gap in our understanding nikkas like Jim Jones and countless others wouldn't have been able to get away with the bullshyt they got away with. That single gap is dangerous as fuk bro. Literally ANYTHING CAN BE FILLED IN THAT VOID, which is why there have been so many different religions and belief systems throughout the history of man kind. shyt is a blank spot that can be used by anything and anyone. There's no point in really even arguing against anything that gets put in there. Just a big waste of everyones time...especially when we could be doing something more constructive





but all that shyt aside, it simply just FEELS GOOD to know that there is someone up there watching ur back and taking care of u, that big daddy in the sky that's gonna make sure everything is alright even when ur going through ur darkest times in life.




Alot of people ain't tryna deal with the thought that there ain't nothing up there but empty space and stars when they're going through their daily struggles and hardships. It just makes the day more depressing

:noah:


but that's part of being a grown man/woman, dealing with reality and not copping out like a bytch to feel good fairy tales bro

:manny:
 

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marcuz said:
honestly it's just another side argument that's irrelevant.

YOU brought it up but now it's irrelevant because you can't support it. Cool.

marcuz said:
they want to argue that christianity was already in africa, so it's okay to worship it; even though cacs are the ones who brought it here, and it's not the same version of christianity forced upon black slaves over hundreds of years in america.

No, see, YOU stated that CAC's brought the religion to Africa. That's an unsupported myth/dogma like most of your posts thus far.

marcuz said:
either way, if they were christians; how much does it really change? nothing to me, i'm still wondering why people believe stories written by people who thought the earth was flat. :wow:

Ummm, they believed the Earth was round and the Universe had a beginning. So do you.

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you can have perfectly smart, logical people turn full on retarded when it comes to their religious beliefs.

You're a perfect example of that. If you can't support your arguments, don't make them. Now I see why you titled your thread the way you did. You're not only confused about Christianity, but 'Black' history. Are you even 'Black'?
 

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And technically its our fault (man) We're gay like that and love to pretend to know something we have no knowledge of. The first religion was probably started by some nikka who just wanted to impress hoes with his made up wisdom about existence to get some p*ssy
:smugfavre:

:wow: so true.. so many quotables in this post. wish i could dap you a thousand times.


im not saying dump your religion, but at least challenge it. whatever is really going on in this universe (and others) is probably far greater than the religious stuff we're taught from birth.
 

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man fuk that bro, they ain't gotta challenge shyt, everybody ain't build for that ol existentialism shyt that could potentially end up driving you crazy anyway.

Let them live their lives

My grandma died bout 10 yrs ago and was a bible thumping christian, if I was an atheist back then (which I wasn't at the time) u think I would have been debating her with on the subject? fuk no....... shyt is just a waste of time and if I were to win the "debate" then I would just end up taking something away that she "cherished" probably just as much as family.


Some folks need to just take it simple and live their lives, all that questioning shyt would probably end up crippling society b.


The only time we should get upset is when they try to force that shyt in schools or honest to god (that's just a figure of speech, I'm just a victim of brainwashing like everyone else..) teach children that shyt (but then again, every parent has a right to teach their child whatever so...I dunno, I just think its fukked up to brainwash kids like that and then put them out into society )


I kinda went through an emotional period when I first realized my religon was about as real as tofu beef. Realizing that everything u once believed was true is false is a hard pill to swallow but I don't regret it. I need to know the nitty gritty details of everything so It is what it is and with that type of mindstate it was gonna happen eventually anyway Whether I was 19 (when I dropped it) or 80 yrs old on my deathbed. I'm just glad it happened when I was young tho. Its sad as fukk to be Kat Williams age and still subscribe to that shyt....I felt pitty for him while watching that shyt to be honest. Some of it was indeed funny tho, mainly because of his ignorance.


:yeshrug:


dropping Christianity has actually made me more of a fan of religion in general, just from a historical perspective. I can look and study the entire subject as a whole without an actual hat in the bag. With zero bias.... Instead of having the thought in back of my mind that all muslims will burn in hell for not accepting Jesus christ (this is what we're taught, lets just keep it 100) I can step back and just enjoy the rich history/mythology of Christianity,Islam and other religions just as I would with Jedi Knights and Sith Lords

:win:
 

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Evolution doesn't make any sense, on any level. I don't get why atheists push their non faith so hard on people and then when a person with faith says something they complain on them pushing their faith on them. Just do you, and let us do us :damn:
 

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God sat back and let the Romans merk his son and didnt do sh1t to them. Hes a fukking coward ass b1tch.
 

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Evolution doesn't make any sense, on any level. I don't get why atheists push their non faith so hard on people and then when a person with faith says something they complain on them pushing their faith on them. Just do you, and let us do us :damn:

Amen

Look at Tom dude is writing paragraphs and paragraphs, hurling insults getting mad.

I don't go around hurling insults at atheists, everyone lives their own life do what you want with yours.

The funny thing is the stuff folks say Asians aren't religious and their rich etc

You can tell who really has read the word and who has not.

"silver and gold have I not"

This is why I don't even argue back and forth with these cats.
 
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