anybody here make beats for a living?

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Damn, just blaze stole beats too :to:

Is there any big name rap producer who HASNT stole beats?

I dont know what happend but i know read that some guy gave jigga some beats and just blaze heard them and took one and changed it up and added one of his crash/snare hits in it, and didn't Bink call out just too?
 

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Nope

if u have a vinyl release ur more official than me

ill have a vinyl release for the next album im producing
 

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I dont know what happend but i know read that some guy gave jigga some beats and just blaze heard them and took one and changed it up and added one of his crash/snare hits in it, and didn't Bink call out just too?

That stuff sux in the industry

its at a really bad time now too

I did a track called so amazing kanye stole my hook for his version
 

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Im on ituned

ur on soundcloud

bow down fagboy


:deadrose: @ this nikka saying he's on "itunes" like that's some shyt anybody can't do:heh: (also dead @ the first beat he posted being on sound cloud)


:deadrose: @ all his beats sound like some throw away NY beats from the 1990s... Good luck getting a deal with that:leon:



:deadrose: @ him having one style... Sounds OK, but nobody has fukked with that style since 1997



:blessed: @ me having tracks that sound like Timbaland, Kanye, DJ Toomp, Neptunes, Scott storch, Shawty Redd, the nikka that made Laffy Taffy and shyt that sound like some shyt you never heard before etc... #versaTile


:blessed: @ me having 10 styles and you having one. I can lace a track for Jay-Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, Lil Jon, Jeezy, Rihana, Justin Timberlake without missing a beat... You'd be lucky to get a song on 1 of Nas or Mobb Deeps albums from the 1990's.


:blessed: @ the pure FIRE-NESS of my beats being better than yours, REGARDLESS of what style a nikka prefer





You and your MPC R.I.P.... My work is done here:umad:
 

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Here's what I have seen from this game. You have a million non-talented artist chasing musical trends who only want trap beats. They either want to lease the beat for $50 or less or they want the beat for free and they will give the producer "credit". The credit wouldn't be bad but since no one but the artist themselves and their friends will ever check out the music it's pointless. So a producer will have to make music that sounds like whatever the industry trend is while trying to sell their beats over and over again at a small rate. That wouldn't be so bad (I guess) if beats weren't literally a dime a dozen.

Then you have "producer manager's" such as Sarah J on Twitter telling beat makers they will have a better chance at placement if the beats they send aren't tagged. Mind you she's just a middleman who wants to use you and push her services. Anyhow even if a beat is copywritten that doesn't mean that it can't be taken and used so of course it's best that's it's tagged. On top of this you have established producers, in some cases multimillionaires who hear beats and decide to remake them, you have producers throwing beats on youtube for free which is a major reason why people don't want to pay much for a beat, you have a lack of artistry and typical trap beats in abundance being the driving force. Since most of the artist aren't really artist in the true sense they don't respect music that's outside of the box. So your beats may be good but since it's only about chasing hits and doing what's hot that music will be brushed over. So if you aren't doing the norm or following trends you won't have much success.

Since most of the producers aren't business savvy and in many cases are just kids, they are thirsty for placements which ultimately lowers the value of beats. Why pay $20,000 a track when this kid will give a beat to you for free just so he can feel good seeing his name on a album cover?

Let's take what @nikkaz In Paris said about working with up and coming talent. The internet is so messed up now that blogs and online radio want money for placement. We recently contacted Conspiracy World Wide radio with a track and they replied back trying to sell us a list of contact info with various people in the industry.

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Blogs want money to have a song featured even if the blog isn't a major player. So he's right about needing lost of money to even get a look. Real talk alot of hits are being made since the industry formula is known and being copied but it doesn't even matter at this point. Fans are so brainwashed that unless it's a big name artist, they don't want to hear it anyway.

I dont know what happend but i know read that some guy gave jigga some beats and just blaze heard them and took one and changed it up and added one of his crash/snare hits in it, and didn't Bink call out just too?
I'm pretty sure this is common practice. People add their two cents to a beat then get production credit for it.
 

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Here's what I have seen from this game. You have a million non-talented artist chasing musical trends who only want trap beats. They either want to lease the beat for $50 or less or they want the beat for free and they will give the producer "credit". The credit wouldn't be bad but since no one but the artist themselves and their friends will ever check out the music it's pointless. So a producer will have to make music that sounds like whatever the industry trend is while trying to sell their beats over and over again at a small rate. That wouldn't be so bad (I guess) if beats weren't literally a dime a dozen.

Then you have "producer manager's" such as Sarah J on Twitter telling beat makers they will have a better chance at placement if the beats they send aren't tagged. Mind you she's just a middleman who wants to use you and push her services. Anyhow even if a beat is copywritten that doesn't mean that it can't be taken and used so of course it's best that's it's tagged. On top of this you have established producers, in some cases multimillionaires who hear beats and decide to remake them, you have producers throwing beats on youtube for free which is a major reason why people don't want to pay much for a beat, you have a lack of artistry and typical trap beats in abundance being the driving force. Since most of the artist aren't really artist in the true sense they don't respect music that's outside of the box. So your beats may be good but since it's only about chasing hits and doing what's hot that music will be brushed over. So if you aren't doing the norm or following trends you won't have much success.

Since most of the producers aren't business savvy and in many cases are just kids, they are thirsty for placements which ultimately lowers the value of beats. Why pay $20,000 a track when this kid will give a beat to you for free just so he can feel good seeing his name on a album cover?

Let's take what @nikkaz In Paris said about working with up and coming talent. The internet is so messed up now that blogs and online radio want money for placement. We recently contacted Conspiracy World Wide radio with a track and they replied back trying to sell us a list of contact info with various people in the industry.



Blogs want money to have a song featured even if the blog isn't a major player. So he's right about needing lost of money to even get a look. Real talk alot of hits are being made since the industry formula is known and being copied but it doesn't even matter at this point. Fans are so brainwashed that unless it's a big name artist, they don't want to hear it anyway.


I'm pretty sure this is common practice. People add their two cents to a beat then get production credit for it.

So much truth in this post... :whew:
 

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Sarah J out here gettin you nikkas :lolbron:

and nikkas on soundclick makin 6 figures a year
 
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Started just to learn it so that i could make my own beatz and not deal with producer bullshyt...Eventually got to a satisfactory level and i got a few beats sold, but in my country rappers don't have that dough to really make me make a living off it! I use Cubase and Reason, but also a whole lotta vst plug ins....I also buy samples whenever i can to support the work of other producers, plus it gives me inspiration! Just a random beatmix for anybody that got the time to vibe to some beatz: If i knew any US rappers i'd pitch that 2.44 minute beat, especially those new westcoast artists! https://soundcloud.com/da-methaphorce/bate-sasho-bangerz-beatmix :dj2:
:umad:
 

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@really

@Truality

Why don't both of you nikkas post up one or two of your favorite beats you can prove you produced and let The Coli decide if there's a difference between FL / Hardware production, and see who's better? :ohhh: Otherwise what both of you nikkas is doin is just girlin back & forth, fukk that shyt. :camby:



Unless you nikkas scared :umad:



I posted beats, not NEAR my best beats ( i aint gettin paid to prove shyt)..... Didn't matter etiher way, what I said was fact and he never presented points to dispute it.



As far as the tracks, LOL @ how stale n boring his shyt is.... no contest. shyt sound like elevator music:camby:
 

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God you fukking suck, the beat is basic, boring and garbage, whoever that is rapping just needs to stop and on top of that everything about this shyt is dated as fukk.

I'm a software user and I know for a fact im 100% better than you


Preach brother, preach:blessed:



Sad part is, if guys like me and you weren't hear, this nikka would be misdirecting people based off his personal bias... I despise that shyt.:patrice:
 

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I use some cheap sht because I'm learning lowkey as well. I downloaded the free trial of mixcraft 6, went to:

start>run>typed in 'regedit'>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Acoustica>Mixcraft6 and there are 4 registry keys starting with something like 'DX7II'. Delete all of them, go into mixcraft and now you have it full without a trial.

Though this does give you a cheap start to learn about various things. Temp/velocity/mixers/spectrum analyzers, how to make the bass curve and make it pop or blast or get a smooth kick with a snare that snaps like fire. Goodluck with this shyt mane because it's not easy for most people. You gotta motivate yourself.
 
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