Anybody else getting a Wii U at launch?

[up in here]

they can always do better breh, they can get deeper, they just need creativity.
its not that the formula is getting stale, its the presentation thats making it stale.

if they take a more serious and new approach in presenting the formula, it would feel fresh again.

well even if you feel the zelda franchise is getting stale, the xenoblade team is working on something for the wii-u.

 

[Heretic]

I havent played nintendo really since super was out. I had a 64 amd a gamecube and I only played resident evil on gc and goldeneye and killer instinct on 64. I feel like I just outgrew it.

with that said...
Ima have to get that wii u if it gets proper 3rd party support

 

[winb83]

they can always do better breh, they can get deeper, they just need creativity.
its not that the formula is getting stale, its the presentation thats making it stale.

if they take a more serious and new approach in presenting the formula, it would feel fresh again.

are you suggesting a cinematic Zelda game where Link talks?

face it Zelda is and always was the same core game with slight overworld theme modifications and adjustments for the advance of technology. what you're suggesting they do is place the Zelda name on a game that's not really a Zelda game.

Zelda games aren't about presentation its about exploring dungeons and solving puzzles. something like Mario they can drastically change it because its just a platformer but Zelda is in essence that same formula. sword, dungeons, puzzles, bombs, boomerang ect. its not even in them to make an overly cinematic Zelda cause the series isn't about that.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

are you suggesting a cinematic Zelda game where Link talks?

face it Zelda is and always was the same core game with slight overworld theme modifications and adjustments for the advance of technology. what you're suggesting they do is place the Zelda name on a game that's not really a Zelda game.

Zelda games aren't about presentation its about exploring dungeons and solving puzzles. something like Mario they can drastically change it because its just a platformer but Zelda is in essence that same formula. sword, dungeons, puzzles, bombs, boomerang ect. its not even in them to make an overly cinematic Zelda cause the series isn't about that.

If you wanna be real about it "Mario" games have the most diverse gameplay elements...the only type of "Mario" game they haven't made is shooter.

 

[5n0man]

are you suggesting a cinematic Zelda game where Link talks?

face it Zelda is and always was the same core game with slight overworld theme modifications and adjustments for the advance of technology. what you're suggesting they do is place the Zelda name on a game that's not really a Zelda game.

Zelda games aren't about presentation its about exploring dungeons and solving puzzles. something like Mario they can drastically change it because its just a platformer but Zelda is in essence that same formula. sword, dungeons, puzzles, bombs, boomerang ect. its not even in them to make an overly cinematic Zelda cause the series isn't about that.

you sound exactly like whats wrong with nintendo. thinking everything gotta exactly like its been for years, down to the same puzzles and same chaacters, same story. and if they try something new and fresh, take another approch to puzzles, dungeons, swords bomb etc. it would be changing zelda.

i call it evolving zelda into a next gen experience

 

[Mic-Nificent]

you sound exactly like whats wrong with nintendo. thinking everything gotta exactly like its been for years, down to the same puzzles and same chaacters, same story. and if they try something new and fresh, take another approch to puzzles, dungeons, swords bomb etc. it would be changing zelda.

i call it evolving zelda into a next gen experience

They've actually been doing that for awhile now. You act like they just slap a new coat of paint on ever Zelda game and don't add new gameplay mechanics each and ever time.

There's no way you can tell me Wind Waker, The Minish Cap, Twilight Princess, and Skyward sword don't have different an unique gameplay elements within each game.

 

[Heretic]

I think im the only person in the world that never gave a shyt about zelda... I tried but it just never did nothing for me.

 

[5n0man]

They've actually been doing that for awhile now. You act like they just slap a new coat of paint on ever Zelda game and don't add new gameplay mechanics each and ever time.

There's no way you can tell me Wind Waker, The Minish Cap, Twilight Princess, and Skyward sword don't have different an unique gameplay elements within each game.

No they haven't, the games have been getting worse each game, minish cap was the last great handheld Zelda too, after they just adopted the gimicky style of bullshyt that skyward sword has, twilight princess was basically oot with annoying wolf parts added

 

[VladTheImpaler]

Wii U

 

[Mic-Nificent]

No they haven't, the games have been getting worse each game, minish cap was the last great handheld Zelda too, after they just adopted the gimicky style of bullshyt that skyward sword has, twilight princess was basically oot with annoying wolf parts added

We're not talking about quality, we're talking about changes in gameplay. Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean they're aren't trying different things.

Damn near every Zelda game they make has a new gameplay element that wasn't seen in a previous game.

You sound like you just want the games to have a different visual style and tone or be a completely different genre.

 

[5n0man]

We're not talking about quality, we're talking about changes in gameplay. Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean they're aren't trying different things.

Damn near every Zelda game they make has a new gameplay element that wasn't seen in a previous game.

You sound like you just want the games to have a different visual style and tone or be a completely different genre.

so quality doesnt matter as long as the change is new? even if that change happens to make the game worst?

the zelda series has a bunch of unique and great visual styles and tones, i dont have a problem with the style and tone, your not listening to me.

i have a problem with nintendo not taking this series serious enough to incorporate a deeper story, deeper character development, a more open landscape with optional areas to explore (this is the most important to me, they seem to be moving backwards with this), bigger temples, with possible areas that you could come back to after you acquire certain weapons later in the game, more towns and people(make the world feel real and alive) etc.

maybe if you guys would listen to what im saying instead of assuming i just want zelda to do a 180 and become a different game, instead of becoming a deeper zelda game, then you would understand what i mean by evolving. ( yes skyward sword was different, but in all the wrong ways)

adding a wolf portion that wasnt fun, was not the change that was needed, nether was replacing the exploration with a stupid flying mini game

 

[5n0man]

How the fukk do you not like Zelda breh

i do like zelda breh, one of my favorite series of all time. played at beat every one of them.

but unlike you guys, i wont just accept anything nintendo puts out just cause its nintendo
i wanna see these games advance

 

[winb83]

so quality doesnt matter as long as the change is new? even if that change happens to make the game worst?

the zelda series has a bunch of unique and great visual styles and tones, i dont have a problem with the style and tone, your not listening to me.

i have a problem with nintendo not taking this series serious enough to incorporate a deeper story, deeper character development, a more open landscape with optional areas to explore (this is the most important to me, they seem to be moving backwards with this), bigger temples, with possible areas that you could come back to after you acquire certain weapons later in the game, more towns and people(make the world feel real and alive) etc.

maybe if you guys would listen to what im saying instead of assuming i just want zelda to do a 180 and become a different game, instead of becoming a deeper zelda game, then you would understand what i mean by evolving. ( yes skyward sword was different, but in all the wrong ways)

adding a wolf portion that wasnt fun, was not the change that was needed, nether was replacing the exploration with a stupid flying mini game

Nintendo doesn't do character development or deep stories. when i say Nintendo i mean the main company not the second party companies they bought. i mean seriously name a main game Nintendo themselves has made with a deep story. yeah you have companies they bought like Monolith Soft that made Xenoblade but that's not the main company.

you're asking them to take a multi-million selling franchise and more than likely hand it off to some other team because you're getting bored with it. meanwhile these games as is still sell 3-5 million per release. the majority of Zelda fans are cool with the status quo.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

so quality doesnt matter as long as the change is new? even if that change happens to make the game worst?

the zelda series has a bunch of unique and great visual styles and tones, i dont have a problem with the style and tone, your not listening to me.

i have a problem with nintendo not taking this series serious enough to incorporate a deeper story, deeper character development, a more open landscape with optional areas to explore (this is the most important to me, they seem to be moving backwards with this), bigger temples, with possible areas that you could come back to after you acquire certain weapons later in the game, more towns and people(make the world feel real and alive) etc.

maybe if you guys would listen to what im saying instead of assuming i just want zelda to do a 180 and become a different game, instead of becoming a deeper zelda game, then you would understand what i mean by evolving. ( yes skyward sword was different, but in all the wrong ways)

adding a wolf portion that wasnt fun, was not the change that was needed, nether was replacing the exploration with a stupid flying mini game

I'm not saying Quality doesn't matter, I'm saying you need to stop acting like every Zelda game is exactly the same when you know damn well that isn't the case. Don't complain about them not adding/trying new puzzles/dungeons/weapons/gameplay elements when that's EXACTLY what htey do every time out.

And if it seems like we don't understand what you're talking about it's because we don't. Some of the shyt you're saying is either flat out untrue or contradicts other things you've said.

In one post it seems like you're complaining about stagnant game play, in other post it seems like you're complaining about the visual style and tone, and in this post it seems like you're complaining about the scale of the games.


And to be clear, i'm not one of them die hard been waiting for the new one for years Zelda fans. I'm just calling bullshyt on the claim that Nintendo does do anything to evolve/change the gameplay for each Zelda game.

 

[5n0man]

Nintendo doesn't do character development or deep stories. when i say Nintendo i mean the main company not the second party companies they bought. i mean seriously name a main game Nintendo themselves has made with a deep story. yeah you have companies they bought like Monolith Soft that made Xenoblade but that's not the main company.

you're asking them to take a multi-million selling franchise and more than likely hand it off to some other team because you're getting bored with it. meanwhile these games as is still sell 3-5 million per release. the majority of Zelda fans are cool with the status quo.

well they need to start then, this isnt an excuse. im not talking mass effect level deep but come on breh, they did it with majoras mask.

most nintendo games like mario and kirby dont need this, but with their more hard core games like zelda and metroid games need a change. im not asking them to do anything but grow their library.

majority of zelda/nintendo fans are sheep, and will actually defend nintendo for shyt any other company would get slammed for.

thats why only nintendo games sell on their systems, cause nintendo fans hail everything they do as classics and feel like if its not nintendo, its not worth it