Anybody defending Wilder after turning down 100 million dollars has no credibility.

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I don’t exactly see his choice once the Breazeale fight flops viewer wise.

The few people who still have cable ain’t paying for no damn showtime :camby:


What’s the game plan for Wilder getting paid if the Fury or Aj fights aren’t possible
:childplease: What few people??

Showtime still has 20million+ subscribers.. Wilder has never flopped on Showtime since he been champion and he the most viewed current American fighter on Showtime

The game plan for Wilder is the same.. AJ and Fury still need Wilder who holds the American market at HW and they just have to give Wilder what he wants if they want the fight.. Which is and has always been 50/50 for AJ OR whatever they pay Wilder in the 1st fight he gets the lionshare of the same split in the 2nd fight.. As for Fury, he better just hope Wilder is willing to still do 50/50 with him for the rematch
 

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The game plan for Wilder is the same.. AJ and Fury still need Wilder who holds the American market at HW and they just have to give Wilder what he wants if they want the fight.. Which is and has always been 50/50 for AJ OR whatever they pay Wilder in the 1st fight he gets the lionshare of the same split in the 2nd fight.. As for Fury, he better just hope Wilder is willing to still do 50/50 with him for the rematch


This is the same argument ppl made for Adonis Stevenson. His peers just went on without him, taking classic PPV fights earning more than Stevenson while he "held a belt hostage". Eventually he was forgotten as the division kind of moved pass him and his career was ended.
Wilder ain't the only option, Fury and Joshua could fight each other making their own trilogy completely leaving Wilder with lil $1-2million fight scraps for the next couple years. Breh is already 33 and relies on athleticism primarily , I don't think he has much time to be holding out hoping dudes who already make plenty of money without him will "need" him in the future.
 

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Why do he have to sign with DAZN to get this deal done. Why no one is pressuring AJ to sign with PBC?
 

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This is the same argument ppl made for Adonis Stevenson. His peers just went on without him, taking classic PPV fights earning more than Stevenson while he "held a belt hostage". Eventually he was forgotten as the division kind of moved pass him and his career was ended.
Wilder ain't the only option, Fury and Joshua could fight each other making their own trilogy completely leaving Wilder with lil $1-2million fight scraps for the next couple years. Breh is already 33 and relies on athleticism primarily , I don't think he has much time to be holding out hoping dudes who already make plenty of money without him will "need" him in the future.

This is true
 

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Dude turned down astronomical numbers and a chance to be undisputed. He's ducking. No other way around it. Some people are trying to defend him by saying it is a 3 fight deal and ties him up, but pleae also remember that he refused to even listen to or entertain offers from Joshua after the Fury fight as well. This man said Joshua was begging for the fight. Joshua was then forced to fight Big Baby Miller.
Dazn is a con, keep your freedom
 

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This is the same argument ppl made for Adonis Stevenson. His peers just went on without him, taking classic PPV fights earning more than Stevenson while he "held a belt hostage". Eventually he was forgotten as the division kind of moved pass him and his career was ended.
Wilder ain't the only option, Fury and Joshua could fight each other making their own trilogy completely leaving Wilder with lil $1-2million fight scraps for the next couple years. Breh is already 33 and relies on athleticism primarily , I don't think he has much time to be holding out hoping dudes who already make plenty of money without him will "need" him in the future.
Usyk is the Andre Ward in this scenario ... he's going to skip the line and fight Joshua and Fury
 

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I don't blame Wilder for not involving himself with Arum, those fight contracts will leave a fighter bleeding and reupping just for the next advance.

The Dazn deal seems to have almost got Wilder, but who knows what Haymon promised him to keep him with PBC. Ultimately, I think Wilder believes a fight against Joshua will be made regardless of the network differences, and that there is more financial upside by refusing the flat fee.

I hope we get more information over time, cause him turning down that huge Breazeale purse plus the guaranteed second purse is a huge gamble.
 

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:what:It amazes me how stupid and illogical some of you dudes are.. Why would wilder sign a flat fee to face AJ where if he wins and becomes undisputed he has to take the same flat rate
Dude's getting greedy and thinking he's Floyd
:mjlol: at some ppl thinking a 2X 40million flat fee offer for a Wilder caliber fighter is some insult


If he don't quit playing the Floyd quick he will get knocked out by some underdog and then all goes up in flames.

A 33 years old HW with one PPV behind his back thinking 100 M for 3 fights is not good cause... "but Floyd..." :hhh:

Remember when Broner said to Roc Nation's 40M offer that it's a slave deal thinking he's Floyd? That went well too
 

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an extra 100 million makes a hell of a difference

if the other companies wanted him they should have tried to one up the offer
There's no extra 100 millions we know of though. All he talked about was loyalty to his employer (duh) and that he is with the same people who got Mayweather his money which is
1. not entirely true cause they started to work with Floyd when he was already a mainstream star after the DLH fight, until that point it wasn't them who built him up
2. a very inapt comparison, Mayweather was doing PPVs since he was 28 which is something Wilder could realize. Another thing is that Mayweather was a lot better fighter than Wilder which made it possible for him to grow so big commercially building up on his "0" but fair enough I don't say Wilder should acknowledge himself as the lesser fighter... his team however... they must not believe in that Mayweather comparison bullshyt either, they just wanna keep their investment
 

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Dude's getting greedy and thinking he's Floyd
:mjlol: at some ppl thinking a 2X 40million flat fee offer for a Wilder caliber fighter is some insult


If he don't quit playing the Floyd quick he will get knocked out by some underdog and then all goes up in flames.

A 33 years old HW with one PPV behind his back thinking 100 M for 3 fights is not good cause... "but Floyd..." :hhh:

Remember when Broner said to Roc Nation's 40M offer that it's a slave deal thinking he's Floyd? That went well too
:beli: whatever nikka
At the end of the day, Wilder is not taking the same money in the second fight after becoming undisputed HW champion having just beat AJ that he would take in the 1st fight.. It would be stupid to
 

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Dude's getting greedy and thinking he's Floyd
:mjlol: at some ppl thinking a 2X 40million flat fee offer for a Wilder caliber fighter is some insult


If he don't quit playing the Floyd quick he will get knocked out by some underdog and then all goes up in flames.

A 33 years old HW with one PPV behind his back thinking 100 M for 3 fights is not good cause... "but Floyd..." :hhh:

Remember when Broner said to Roc Nation's 40M offer that it's a slave deal thinking he's Floyd? That went well too

There's no extra 100 millions we know of though. All he talked about was loyalty to his employer (duh) and that he is with the same people who got Mayweather his money which is
1. not entirely true cause they started to work with Floyd when he was already a mainstream star after the DLH fight, until that point it wasn't them who built him up
2. a very inapt comparison, Mayweather was doing PPVs since he was 28 which is something Wilder could realize. Another thing is that Mayweather was a lot better fighter than Wilder which made it possible for him to grow so big commercially building up on his "0" but fair enough I don't say Wilder should acknowledge himself as the lesser fighter... his team however... they must not believe in that Mayweather comparison bullshyt either, they just wanna keep their investment

GGG, who is older, also turned down a flat fee with the Canelo saga and walked away with more money after those two fights had he accepted a flat fee and hell ended up with more money with his Dazn deal in the long run anyways.

Why nobody called him a fool for not accepting a flat fee when it was first offered to him to fight Canelo yet giving Wilder this negative energy? I asked before, when has an offer like what Dazn and them offering Wilder has ever been done in the past with any other fighter? If Wilder is to accept the $40 mill, how much is AJ going to take home? Has THAT been confirmed?
 
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