Ayatollah Watts
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i'm competent on a few instruments, play'em by ear...
Any musicians on here
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aRoMaN21
over 14 years in the shade...
so if i gave you some sheet music for those few instruments you are competent in, could you read it??
if you can't... YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MUSICIAN because you are lacking a skill that makes you 100% skilled in music.
Everyone can disagree but without THEORY you are not a true musician.
i didnt read page 2 or 3 in this fukkery thread but you negged me.
Thank you AY
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STEVE
MIami Beach on the check-in.
guitar, bass, vocals. i have been in four different punk/hardcore bands that have has vinyl released. currently singing in a hardcore band and it is sick.
Ayatollah Watts
Rookie
so if i gave you some sheet music for those few instruments you are competent in, could you read it??
if you can't... YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MUSICIAN because you are lacking a skill that makes you 100% skilled in music.
Everyone can disagree but without THEORY you are not a true musician.
i didnt read page 2 or 3 in this fukkery thread but you negged me.
Thank you AY
I could care less if I'm not defined as a "true musician" because I can't read music
End of the day, people spend years in music school, can read note for note but their music is stale and lifeless. Sure there are exceptions but being able to read music isn't the beginning and end of being a "true" musician, and your narrow view on the matter is shameful, especially if you're a music teacher.
and I don't remember negging you but if I did it would have been for the shyt you said about Jimi Hendrix.
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Got a link?
Guitar and some piano. little bit of vocals too. Was in a band a whiiiile ago. Actually recorded a few songs with a friend recently in the spare bedroom. Stuff that I wrote when I picked up the guitar again last year. When it's done i'll def put a link up to soundcloud or something.
As far as for being a "true" musician, I understand what the Roman dude is trying to say. But I think his idea is fixated on the possibility that a musician might have to collaborate with another stranger musician. When I used to play, I was totally fulfilled & content playing and writing songs alone. A lot of times with my band mates too. But we talked about the music, told each other what key this or that was in, wrote chords down on these chord box sheets my friend would print and also played by ear. Mostly though, verbal communication was key. And to be honest, that totally worked for us.
Fact is, A LOT of legitimate mainstream acts today work that way. And A LOT of those acts create great albums and have solid musical chemistry that way. Furthermore, being able to read, write and having the privilege of a music background is of NO CONSEQUENCE in determining the caliber of artist that you are or can become. And it doesn't even remotely suggest whether or not you're excellent live performer.
Anyways, what about super experimental music? All these artist who use weird electronic mediums to generate sounds unconventionally? Musicians who overlap the sounds of say, a crowded train and barking dogs with ocean waves and tribal chants? Do you really think these type of musicians will be exchanging sheets of music with each other? Of course not. And because they don't, because it just isn't beneficial or necessary or even relevant for them, they're not musicians in your eyes? If so, now you've crossed over the line where you're determining what's music and what isn't. And that's not cool amigo.
As far as for being a "true" musician, I understand what the Roman dude is trying to say. But I think his idea is fixated on the possibility that a musician might have to collaborate with another stranger musician. When I used to play, I was totally fulfilled & content playing and writing songs alone. A lot of times with my band mates too. But we talked about the music, told each other what key this or that was in, wrote chords down on these chord box sheets my friend would print and also played by ear. Mostly though, verbal communication was key. And to be honest, that totally worked for us.
Fact is, A LOT of legitimate mainstream acts today work that way. And A LOT of those acts create great albums and have solid musical chemistry that way. Furthermore, being able to read, write and having the privilege of a music background is of NO CONSEQUENCE in determining the caliber of artist that you are or can become. And it doesn't even remotely suggest whether or not you're excellent live performer.
Anyways, what about super experimental music? All these artist who use weird electronic mediums to generate sounds unconventionally? Musicians who overlap the sounds of say, a crowded train and barking dogs with ocean waves and tribal chants? Do you really think these type of musicians will be exchanging sheets of music with each other? Of course not. And because they don't, because it just isn't beneficial or necessary or even relevant for them, they're not musicians in your eyes? If so, now you've crossed over the line where you're determining what's music and what isn't. And that's not cool amigo.
STEVE
MIami Beach on the check-in.
finally had something from my new group ILLEGALS
[ame=http://vimeo.com/44689538]illegals / gooski's 2012 on Vimeo[/ame]
this is us on friday night. i am the singer. feel free to clown away but aside from the mic cable goofing on me during a couple seconds this turned out OK
STEVE
MIami Beach on the check-in.
i was the guitar player in this band ROT shyt for years. toured a lot of places in the US, played WFMU, and had three 7"s out. got written up favorably in THE WIRE, THE FADER, MAXIMUM ROCKNROLL and many other publications. this band has also netted the most free drugs/girls of my basically useless music career.
us at the Asterisk space in brooklyn tripping hard on acid (that's me in the red shirt).
you can buy some records here: http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?artist=Rot+shyt&ev=ab
was in some other bands that put out records but that was a long time ago.
you can google "Radio Beats" or Burndowns to find that stuff.
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STEVE
MIami Beach on the check-in.
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thanksyou can hear my new group here: Illegals
Dope. Will do. Going to play in NY anytime soon?
ThaRealness
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Trying to learn guitar