Anthony Richardson has one of the highest ceilings we've ever seen for a QB

[Based Lord Zedd]

Where did I say anything about measurables? Never mentioned it. I said they are plenty of guys with rocket arms and athleticism. There have been They may not have been "6'4' 250, but that combination of arm strength and athletic ability is not that rare. Ok he times a 4.4, where is it on the field?? Ive watched guys like McNabb run roughshod over defenses and they didnt time as good as.Richardson did. How.is that? Ive watched Kap rush for 190 and make defenders look silly, in.his 1st year as a starter. Let me know when Richardson does anything close to that. Whats your problem with my Kyle Boller mention? He was a mobile guy with a rocket arm, who shot up the board because of his combine arm. He was throwing it 70 plus, from his knee. They fell in love with him and he got.overdrafted.

Athleticism isn't measurable now?

• Anthony Richardson 4th fastest 40 time among combine quarterbacks since 2000.
• One of 11 players 245+ pounds to run a sub 4.44 40 since 2000.
• Set the QB combine record for vertical jump and broad jump.
• Then he also has crazy arm strength

Flat out one of the most athletic QB prospects to come through the combine.

Again, my problem with your Kyle Boller comparison is that it's completely asinine. They don't play alike and Boller doesn't have Richardson's athleticism. Just because Boller threw a ball hard from his knees doesn't make him white Richardson.

Saying "plenty of QBs had strong arms and athleticism" is such a generic comment that misses why Indy was intrigued to begin with.

 

[Dorian Breh]

Humans evaluating humans always has a margin of error. They get it right way more often than wrong, that’s why they get paid so much. Thought that was common sense.

Do scouts get it right more than they get it wrong with first round quarterbacks?

 

[premier58]

Athleticism isn't measurable now?

• Anthony Richardson 4th fastest 40 time among combine quarterbacks since 2000.
• One of 11 players 245+ pounds to run a sub 4.44 40 since 2000.
• Set the QB combine record for vertical jump and broad jump.
• Then he also has crazy arm strength

Flat out one of the most athletic QB prospects to come through the combine.

Again, my problem with your Kyle Boller comparison is that it's completely asinine. They don't play alike and Boller doesn't have Richardson's athleticism. Just because Boller threw a ball hard from his knees doesn't make him white Richardson.

Kyle Boller got drafted 20 years before Richardson. For his time, scouts were in awe. He completed less than 50 percent of his passes 3 of his 4 yrs at Cal, yet he shot up the board based on his athletic ability. You are arguing semantics. They both were underwhelming in college and shot up the board due to workouts. The fact that Richardson is a better athlete is irrelevant to the my point. I guess you think cause Boller is white, he wasnt an impressive athlete? 6'3" 235 lbs, 4.6 40 time and 36 inch vertical is impressive in any era. Especially for a QB.

 

[premier58]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/2003/04/24/an-armful-of-talent-at-quarterback/9b7db504-5239-490b-93fc-faba3ecec8c0/

@Based Lord Zedd why are you acting like the throw from his knees was all he did? He ran a shuttle time that was better than all but 2 WR's.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Kyle Boller got drafted 20 years before Richardson. For his time, scouts were in awe. He completed less than 50 percent of his passes 3 of his 4 yrs at Cal, yet he shot up the board based on his athletic ability. You are arguing semantics. They both were underwhelming in college and shot up the board due to workouts. The fact that Richardson is a better athlete is irrelevant to the my point. I guess you think cause Boller is white, he wasnt an impressive athlete? 6'3" 235 lbs, 4.6 40 time and 36 inch vertical is impressive in any era. Especially for a QB.

If you think 6'3 235lbs 4.65 40 time and a 36 inch vertical is "impressive in any era, especially for a QB" then it should be easy for you to understand that the NFL is not "littered with guys" (your words) who are like Anthony Richardson: 6'4, 245 4.43 40, 40.5 inch vertical. Not to mention the fact that Richardson wasn't a 4 year starter, and his an age "advantage" over Boller being the youngest QB drafted in decades.

I don't think the situations are the same, and again I don't agree with you that the NFL is littered with talent like this.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/2003/04/24/an-armful-of-talent-at-quarterback/9b7db504-5239-490b-93fc-faba3ecec8c0/

@Based Lord Zedd why are you acting like the throw from his knees was all he did? He ran a shuttle time that was better than all but 2 WR's.

I'm gonna use your argument. If Boller was so athletic where did it show up on the field? Boller had 572 rushing yards in his 67-game career.

Compared to someone like Josh Allen, (what Indy is hoping for) who can run for 572 in 1 year. Richardson has 277 in 8 games.

Why are we even comparing the two, do you consider Boller a dual threat QB like Richardson?

 

[premier58]

I'm gonna use your argument. If Boller was so athletic where did it show up on the field? Boller had 572 rushing yards in his 67-game career.

Compared to someone like Josh Allen, (what Indy is hoping for) who can run for 572 in 1 year. Richardson has 277 in 8 games.

Youre proven my point. Timing and the field are totally different. Timed speeds only mean something if it translatea. I never said Boller was a great runner, but you know damn well it was a different era. There were no Read options and RPO's. Spread wasnt commonplace yet, either at the pro level. Most QBs were underutilized in that area, because it was a Pro style era. Guys like Young, McNabb, McNair etc .wouldve put up wayy more prolific rushing stats in this modern era. Not to mention the Vicks and Cunninghams.

 

[premier58]

If you think 6'3 235lbs 4.65 40 time and a 36 inch vertical is "impressive in any era, especially for a QB" then it should be easy for you to understand that the NFL is not "littered with guys" (your words) who are like Anthony Richardson: 6'4, 245 4.43 40, 40.5 inch vertical. Not to mention the fact that Richardson wasn't a 4 year starter, and his an age "advantage" over Boller being the youngest QB drafted in decades.

I don't think the situations are the same, and again I don't agree with you that the NFL is littered with talent like this.

ARich being 245 means what, exactly? He gets hurt every other game. Is he bowling over defenders like Newton, Allen, Culpepper and McNair? Not even close. It just makes him look more imposing in his uniform. Culpepper was 6'4" 260 running a 4.6. He displayed it, on the field!! Not just on a track, with no pads. No situation is identical, but the crux of the stories are similar. I already admitted he was a better athlete than Kyle. How does that disprove that workouts shot them up the draft board? Youth? You know how much potential is never realized? Ppl thought Deshone Kizer had potential. 40 times are only useful to affirm what has been proven on the field. What did 40 times do for John Ross? Darius Heyward-Bey? Troy Williamson? Ahmad Carrol?

 

[King Biko]

All them measurements don’t mean nothing if you process the game slower

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

ARich being 245 means what, exactly? He gets hurt every other game. Is he bowling over defenders like Newton, Allen, Culpepper and McNair? Not even close. It just makes him look more imposing in his uniform. Culpepper was 6'4" 260 running a 4.6. He displayed it, on the field!! Not just on a track, with no pads. No situation is identical, but the crux of the stories are similar. I already admitted he was a better athlete than Kyle. How does that disprove that workouts shot them up the draft board? Youth? You know how much potential is never realized? Ppl thought Deshone Kizer had potential. 40 times are only useful to affirm what has been proven on the field. What did 40 times do for John Ross? Darius Heyward-Bey? Troy Williamson? Ahmad Carrol?

So you've moved on from arguing him and Kyle Boller are the same, to arguing that he's better but doesn't show it on the field?

Yes he's still a project and raw, but you'd be blind to act like he hasn't shown some flashes. We're hoping those flashes become more consistent.

 

[premier58]

All them measurements don’t mean nothing if you process the game slower

All them measurements don’t mean nothing if you process the game slower

And a threat to get hurt on damn near every tackle.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Youre proven my point. Timing and the field are totally different. Timed speeds only mean something if it translatea. I never said Boller was a great runner, but you know damn well it was a different era. There were no Read options and RPO's. Spread wasnt commonplace yet, either at the pro level. Most QBs were underutilized in that area, because it was a Pro style era. Guys like Young, McNabb, McNair etc .wouldve put up wayy more prolific rushing stats in this modern era. Not to mention the Vicks and Cunninghams.

Lol notice you didn't say guys like Boller. He wasn't even nice relative to his era.

I don't care if McNabb would be better today.

 

[premier58]

So you've moved on from arguing him and Kyle Boller are the same, to arguing that he's better but doesn't show it on the field?

Yes he's still a project and raw, but you'd be blind to act like he hasn't shown some flashes. We're hoping those flashes become more consistent.

He has definitey shown flashes. He also missed elementary passes on multiple occasions. I want him to pan out. After the Luck dilemma, you guys deserve it. I want to be proven wrong, I never saw it in college and I dont see it now.

 

[premier58]

Lol notice you didn't say guys like Boller. He wasn't even nice relative to his era.

I don't care if McNabb would be better today.

Whate up with this Kyle Boller shyt? You putting words in my mouth, dog? I never said they were the exact same, I said they got on the radar in a similar fashion. When did I say Boller wws a better athlete than Richardson. I never said it, so why do you keep conjuring up shyt that I never said?

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

He has definitey shown flashes. He also missed elementary passes on multiple occasions. I want him to pan out. After the Luck dilemma, you guys deserve it. I want to be proven wrong, I never saw it in college and I dont see it now.

He played 16 games in college and 8 so far in the NFL.

The problem right now is his health. He's not getting enough reps to work through the accuracy issues.