Another Big Win For Putin!!!

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saw this on ft last night ..... chess moves in full effect...y'all thought the cold war was over?



US risks EU rift on new Russia sanctions

Geoff Dyer in Washington


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President Barack Obama is to sign a bill authorising new sanctions on Russia and offering further aid to Ukraine, despite concerns that it could cause a rift with Washington’s European allies.


The bill will have limited immediate impact but sets the groundwork for Congress to impose a much tougher set of Iran-style sanctions on Russia next year if the crisis in Ukraine escalates.

The strong support among both parties for the legislation indicates that Mr Obama could find himself drawn into a foreign policy confrontation next year with the new Republican-controlled Congress not just over his nuclear diplomacy with Iran but also over Russia. Before the Democrats’ losses in November’s midterm elections, Democratic leaders in the Senate had been able to block such votes for tougher sanctions.


The new sanctions come as the Russian economy is teetering from the impact of falling oil prices and a rapid depreciation in the rouble, which forced the central bank to raise interest rates to 17 per cent on Tuesday. Western sanctions have played a role in prompting capital flight and undermining confidence in the Russian economy.


Mr Obama hedged for a number of days over whether to sign the bill, which was passed unanimously by both houses of Congress on Saturday. However, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on Tuesday that the final version of the text contained enough “flexibility” to allow the president to sign the bill.


The most immediate impact of the legislation is to require the Obama administration to impose sanctions on Rosoboronexport, the main Russian state arms exporter. The company has been kept off previous sanctions lists, in part because of its role in supplying helicopters to Afghanistan.


Under the bill, the Obama administration will have to impose sanctions on Gazprom if it significantly reduces the flow of gas to Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova or Nato countries.


It also authorises the sending of $350m of military aid to Ukraine, including anti-tank weapons — an issue that has been the subject of intense dispute with the administration but which Mr Obama has so far blocked because of fears that it could provoke an even more aggressive response from Russia.


FT View: Rouble crisis reveals Putin’s strategic failure
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Only a Russian exit from Ukraine can begin to restore confidence


However, this section of the legislation — which was watered down in last-minute negotiations — does not actually require the administration to provide lethal weaponry to Ukraine.


“Meaningful assistance for the Ukrainian people is a significant step closer to becoming reality,” said Roberto Menendez, the Democratic chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee.


The Obama administration had been keen to avoid new sanctions legislation because they feared it could damage the unified front the US has managed to construct over Ukraine with the EU. The European bloc is required to renew its toughest sanctions next summer, and US officials are worried that unilateral moves by Washington could undermine transatlantic support for maintaining economic pressure on Russia.


“While it preserves flexibility, the bill does send a confusing message to our allies,” said Mr Earnest.


Analysts said one of the most potentially important elements of the bill was the section that authorises — but does not require — the imposition of secondary sanctions on companies from third countries that contravene US sanctions on Russia. If taken to the next stage, this could oblige the US to sanction a foreign bank involved in areas such as deep-sea oil exploration now covered by US sanctions.


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“Russia will not only survive but will come out much stronger. We have been in much worse situations in our history and every time we have got out of our fix much stronger”


– Sergei Lavrov, Russian foreign minister


“It sets the table for the new Congress to mandate secondary sanctions on Russia that will create a serious rift with the Europeans,” said Cliff Kupchan, a former congressional aide now at the Eurasia Group in Washington. “This would be like the sanctions the US has imposed on Iran. Congress is beginning to move in that direction with Russia.”


Russia has lashed out at the prospect of new sanctions, which it has blamed for some of the country’s economic problems. “Russia will not only survive but will come out much stronger,” said Sergei Lavrov, Russian foreign minister. “We have been in much worse situations in our history and every time we have got out of our fix much stronger.”


“They are between a rock and a hard place in economic policy,” said Jason Furman, chairman of the White House council of economic advisers. “The combination of our sanctions, the uncertainty they’ve created for themselves with their international actions and the falling price of oil has put their economy on the brink of crisis.”


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The German people have had it with Merkel
Wednesday 17 December 2014



http://www.davidikke.com/headlines/the-german-people-have-had-it-with-merkel-2/
 

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Russia Contagion Spreads To European Banks : French SocGen, Austrian Raiffeisen Plummet

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/16/2014 11:59 -0500




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We recently noted the rise of counterparty risks in the financial system due to oil prices dropping (and leveraged derivative exposures) but as the Russia situation has deteriorated so dramatically this week, a renewed focus on bank exposures has sent stocks reeling (and credit risk soaring) among many European (and US) banks. As Bloomberg reports, Raiffeisen Bank International and Societe Generale, the European banks with most at stake in Russia, led European lenders lower. Raiffeisen fell as much as 10.3% to 11.40 euros in Vienna, the lowest level since it went public in 2005. Societe Generale dropped as much as 7.3% to 31.85 euros, hitting the lowest intraday level since August 2013. CDS markets for both also exploded with Raffeisen risk at 27 month highs. As one analyst noted, "There remains a huge amount of uncertainty at this juncture, but the key point is that there are no benign scenarios." While not on the same scale, US bank risk has also widened signicantly in recent weeks (despite equity strength).

Credity risk is surging...

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As Bloomberg continues,

“More fundamental concerns are building over the outlook for Russia’s economy and the likely policy response,” Neil Shearing, an economist at Capital Economics in London, wrote in a note to clients. “There remains a huge amount of uncertainty at this juncture, but the key point is that there are no benign scenarios. Even if the ruble does stabilize over the coming weeks, the economic crisis facing Russia has much further to run.”



Societe Generale is the bank that has the biggest absolute exposure to Russia, at 25 billion euros ($31 billion), according to Citigroup Inc. analysts led by Kinner Lakhani. That’s equivalent to 62 percent of the Paris-based bank’s tangible equity. Raiffeisen has 15 billion euros at risk in Russia, almost twice its tangible equity, and it also has the biggest exposure to Ukraine, with 4.9 billion euros, according to Citigroup.



UniCredit, the third European bank strongly invested in the former Soviet Union, has 18 billion euros at stake in Russia, or 40 percent of its tangible book value, Citigroup said.

And while European banks are starting to show real cracks, US financial institutions are also seeing spreads widen notably since oil prices peaked...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...nks-french-socgen-austrian-raiffeisen-plummet
 
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well, wpoty would be an honor around here.:blessed:

and you are clearly dikkriding because you're not even willing to debate the issue... you aren't 'making any points, you aren't making any relevant statements about the subject...:dwillhuh:

All You're SAying is.. "Blackking... yup imma randomly ride his nuts, because i don't like him in general, then get upset when he points it out":scust:


:umad: STAND IN LINE FAKKIT, THERE ARE OVER 40 POSTERS AHEAD OF YOU.. And you're the least relevant.
I tagged you because we sort of debated on the first page and your commentary ended up being as wrong as can be. I read it again today, was amused and decided to share in case anyone on here thought you had a clue what you're talking about. Now, you are mad.

Have an awful dap/post ratio and comment on forum relevancy brehs:lolbron:

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I tagged you because we sort of debated on the first page and your commentary ended up being as wrong as can be. I read it again today, was amused and decided to share in case anyone on here thought you had a clue what you're talking about. Now, you are mad.

Have an awful dap/post ratio and comment on forum relevancy brehs:lolbron:

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i know why you tagged me... and i remember. I only play dumb so that I can avoid fakkits trying to quote me , not to debate, but to diss.


I also remember that you have never created 1 thread and have barely contributed to shyt
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I also remember posters who are happy about things that work against their own self interest - but they are too full of themselves and overrate their own intelligence to the point that they can't Even see it.
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i know why you tagged me... and i remember. I only play dumb so that I can avoid fakkits trying to quote me , not to debate, but to diss.


I also remember that you have never created 1 thread and have barely contributed to shyt
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I also remember posters who are happy about things that work against their own self interest - but they are too full of themselves and overrate their own intelligence to the point that they can't Even see it.
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:umad:Go back and read that first page breh. You dropped some gems in there:lolbron:
 

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Bout fukking time we stop listening to those idiots in Miami. If we can do business with China, it makes no sense to have such a stance on Cuba.

:salute: to Obama and his foreign policy maneuvers.

Too bad congress won't give him room to work on domestic issues
 

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Nobody Knows How 21st-Century Russians Will Respond to Crisis
By Eric Roston Dec 17, 2014 11:36 AM ET
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Pedestrians pass a promotional exhibit -- a large wooden chest bigger than Lenin's tomb -- for Louis Vuitton, in Red Square, Moscow, in November 2013.
Economies grow and contract, currencies rise and fall. In the past what's marked a crisis as a particularly Russian one isn't nuclear weaponry, as Paul Krugman argued yesterday, but denial that there's anything wrong at all.

So far the award for denial goes to Anatoly Artamonov, the governor of the Kaluga Region, in western Russia. On Tuesday, Artamonov banned public use of the word "crisis." The country has hit an "inconvenient moment," as Artamonov put it, that requires an "internal audit" of investment policies. "There probably is a crisis," he said, "But we're banning its utterance." If the Soviets were that honest about Orwellianism they might have survived the century.

Much has changed since the Soviets pioneered denial by doing things like not telling anyone that reactor four at Chernobyl blew and a toxic radiation cloud was about to enshroud Western Europe. Even through the '90s, when President Boris Yeltsin ostensibly ran the show, dramatic civic events were met with television broadcasts of the Tchaikovsky ballet "Swan Lake," or something similar.

Today, with television, radio, newspapers, blogs, Twitter and the rest, it's hard for even a state-controlled press to turn anything off. The two remaining papers with independent voices are having their ownership structures changed, as Bloomberg News reports today.

Instead of denying that something that happened has happened, Putin's strategy so far seems to be to look normal and busy preparing for tomorrow's big press conference, and let potential dissidents be distracted by other important events. For example, Russia yesterday confirmed that it wants to build its own space station and tennis legend Martina Navratilova married Miss U.S.S.R. 1990. Win-win!

Changes in media might make denial easier in some ways. The harder problem to deny is that it's basically been a generation since the ruble's last drop, and contemporary Russians' tolerance for pain is uncertain.

Russians had been through the ringer by 1998. The Soviets led a fruitless war in Afghanistan in the '80s, at least as dispiriting as Putin's Ukraine foray has been rallying. The dissolution of the U.S.S.R. and subsequent economic "shock therapy" in the early '90s made capitalism look more like a looting of state-owned assets. So in 1998, the situation was bad but people knew what to do: When the banks closed, take some money out of the mattress and find a deal on washing machines. People talked about prices like we talked about weather in Chicago. If you don't like it, wait a bit and it'll change.

In 1998, Cell phones were toys for rich "new Russians" who drove Mercedes S600's and made money the old fashioned way. Starbucks was just conquering America then. Now look:




The question first asked here two weeks ago is only going to grow more acute as the 2015 Russian recession comes: With good coffee and cool devices (less the iPhone) enjoyed by more Russians than ever, how long will people continue to not blame Putin for popping everybody's nice bubble? Is there another rabbit he can pull out of his fur hat?

Watch this graph in the weeks ahead, from the Moscow nonprofit the Levada-Center. It tracks public sentiment toward Putin monthly:


This graph shows how President Vladimir Putin's popularity has fluctuated in the last four years. The Levada-Center, a nonprofit in Moscow, has been tracking public political, economic and social sentiment in Russia and the former Soviet Union since 1992.

In the last several weeks, with oil prices already dropping and sanctions starting to bite, Russians' support for the president begins to point south. Will it drop as long or as fast as the ruble, or even as fast as oil? Probably not but it's hard to say. To paraphrase the 19th century poet Fyodor Tyutchev, "Russia can't be understood with the mind."


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-century-russians-will-respond-to-crisis.html
 

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YA BOY PUTIN!!!! :mjlol: i wonder how he feels about Cuba US relations PUTIN WHY U MAD :pachaha: :dj2:

PUTIN AIN"T PUTTING IN NO WORK....LMAOOOOOOOOO

fukk your country's economy up over a peice of land brehs
 

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RUSSIA

Falling Ruble Sparks Panic Buying Among Russian Shoppers

By Leo Lord-Jones

December 17, 2014 | 1:15 pm
Moscow shoppers are scrambling for consumer goods in an attempt to put their money into anything more stable than the Russian ruble. Also fearing astronomical price hikes, people have formed long lines at stores selling electronics, clothes, and luxury items.

Apple also stopped selling their products online in the country today, claiming that the Russian currency has become too volatile to be able to set prices.

At a higher end of the scale, the Telegraph reported that richer Russians are investing heavily, and quickly, in the London property market. "I currently have half a dozen Russian clients urgently looking to spend over £20 million ($31m) each on buying a new home in central London," Gary Beauchamp, an estate agent, told the paper.

The ruble has fallen by around 20 percent against the US dollar this week as a nosedive in global oil prices compounds an economy already battered by western sanctions.









Emergency interest rate hike fails to stop ruble's freefall as Russia's economic crisis deepens. Read more here.

As Russia's manufacturing industry has stagnated it has relayed increasingly on its oil production, which accounts for 70 percent of its total exports. The price of Brent crude oil this week dipped below $60 a barrel for the first time since 2009. To put this into perspective, Russia needs an oil price of $100 a barrel to balance its budget.

Western sanctions, resulting from Russian role in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, have wounded the Russian economy but the steady fall in oil prices has twisted the knife. Analysts predicted that Moscow may have been able to mask the bruising of sanctions but only if the price of oil had stabilized.

Muscovites shared their worries about their falling currency on Tuesday, as the Russian ruble hit historic lows of nearly 80 to the dollar. Video via Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

The decision by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), taken at a meeting at the end of November, not to shore up the price by cutting production was hardly music to Russian ears. Sympathy is unlikely to come from US President Barack Obama who is expected to sign further sanctions by the end of the week.





The Russian Central Bank has been desperately scrambling to halt the free fall of the currency. Having already heavily dipped into its foreign currency reserves to purchase rubles in an attempt to prop up the currency, on Tuesday it announced a dramatic increase in interest rates from 10.5 to 17 percent. The measure, intended to reassure the population, came across as panicked.

There has been some respite for the currency today, as the Central Bank announced a series of measures to stabilize the exchange rate. According to the Guardian, the measures will include allowing Russian banks to temporarily ignore losses caused by the recent devaluation.




https://news.vice.com/article/falli...g-among-moscow-shoppers?utm_source=vicenewsfb
 
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