I honestly don't know, that's why I said it doesn't make any sense.
Simply correcting you -- that a lawsuit settlement is NOT reparations.
Sorry, that hurts your ego -- or whatever. But, it is what it is. You don't understand what reparations is -- and what it looks like.
Now, if you wanna get one up on Tariq's followers -- I would agree with you that this is a specific "tangible" that Obama did while in office. But, NO it's is nothing like reparations.
Yes, a lawsuit can be a basis for reparations -- but this example Sir -- aint it.
To even compare the Japanese Internment Camp and/or Holocaust --- to a discrimination lawsuit again -- a JOKE.
Since, you want to bring them up....
In 1980, Congress established the
Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians (CWRIC)
to study the matter. On February 24, 1983, the commission issued a report entitled
Personal Justice Denied, condemning the internment as unjust and motivated by racism and xenophobic ideas rather than factual military necessity.
[219] Internment camp survivors sued the federal government for $24 million in property loss, but lost the case.
However, the Commission recommended that $20,000 in reparations be paid to those Japanese Americans who had suffered internment.[220]
The Black Farmers Case would be Reparations -- if it would have to be a bill (and be passed) to Study with Commission -- correct? It would also specifically state it is REPARATIONS for all who were affected. Did this case - as you initially said follow the same as reparations for others? No - cause it's not reparations.
Did they go out and find every farmer and the descendent of farmers? Did you even read the articles I posted -- to understand what they (Black Farmers) think and know as REPARATIONS.
Did this case have any of that? Did this case (and settlement) go to each and every Black Farmer in the U.S.? Did it study and "redress" everything they have lost and was taken, etc? Did the settlement - say reparations? NO -- cause it was a settlement!
This case is an discrimination suit - that Obama helped finish settling. That's all.
The money given to internment camp survivors wasn't given to descendants of internment victims either. It was only given to those victims who were still alive.
The $20,000 given to each internment camp survivor wasn't a "redress" of everything they had lost either. Every victim was interned a different amount of time, lost a different amount of property, lost out on a different amount of wages, etc. $20,000 each was an almost random round number given out regardless of the actual losses, just like the $50,000 each given to Black farmers.
So the only difference that holds is "whether or not they set up a commission". If you really want to insist, "It's only reparations if a commission is set up", then I'm just gonna dismiss you as a goofball and leave it at that.
Let's summarize:
* Japanese-American groups lobby Congress for 10 years to give reparations to internment camp victims, finally getting Congress to form a commission in 1980. The commission refuses to rectify individual losses but does recommend uniform cash payments to each victim.
* Black Farmer groups lobby Congress for 3 years to give reparations to Black famers who had been discriminated against by the USDA. At the same time they filed a lawsuit against the USDA. In 1998 Congress passed a bill that allowed the Black farmers' lawsuit to be heard (otherwise the statute of limitations had been up and they could get nothing from the courts), and in the end the administration and the courts agreed together to give $50,000 to each of 16,000 Black farmers named in the lawsuit along with another $200 million to right various specific wrongs. However, the lawsuit settlement is insufficient for the large # of Black farmers who weren't part of the original class action, so they lobby for reparations to be given to an additional 25,000 farmers who hadn't been part of the original class action lawsuit.
* Four years later in 1987, Congress finally passes a bill allocating the money and Reagan signs it.
* Eight years later in 2008, Senator Obama agrees to be the chief sponsor of the legislation, and 3 years after that it finally passes Congress and (now president) Obama signs it, giving equal money to every Black farmer who had signed in even though they were not part of the original lawsuit.
* $20,000 per internment camp survivor
* $50,000 per Black farmer
* money only went to 80,000+ actual camp survivors, not the descendants of the dead
* money only went to 40,000+ actual Black farmers, not the descendants of the dead
* Overall just over $1.6 billion was paid out to Japanese internment victims
* Overall just over $2.2 billion was paid out to Black farmers
* A $27 billion class action lawsuit was filed by the camp survivors for additional losses, but the courts dismissed it
* A $20.5 billion class action lawsuit was filed by the Black farmers for additional losses, but the courts dismissed it
You want to talk like there was some giant difference between the two cases, when it was damn near the exact same shyt. The only difference was that there was a federal commission in one case that spurred the $ amount and a federal court that spurred it in the other, but in both cases it was a Congressional bill that gave the money in the end and whether or not you were part of the lawsuits didn't even matter to getting the money.
It is what it is. We both have the same future goals so I don't know why you want to argue over minutia. Done making mountains outta molehills here.
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