Angela rye claims obama gave tangibles to black people

[Numpsay]

So its not enough to help black people, boys won't be satisfied unless you aren't helping anyone else either. I guess some of you are on this live long enough to become the very people you hate schtick.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

do you mean as their only promise? No, but as part of something larger, yes.

I don't thinking failing to address a specific redress of slavery is a genuine response to the reparations question.

Jews got theirs,

Natives got theirs,

Blacks need theirs PERIOD. if you don't agree you are slick telling us you don't believe blacks deserve to have their humanity restored publicly.

Make no mistake all these non-blacks that seems to divert the conversation whenever reparations is involved suffer from the El-dorado syndrome.

Read Voltaire and the El-Dorado for clarity.

These non-blacks want their opportunity to lord over others. They see reparations to blacks as a threat to their status. They understand that America seeks to have a black underclass from ADOS and an economic change in status to ADOS would mean all other minorities might now feel more of the brunt of blackness, being people of color. You can no longer then look down on blacks and condescend because you know the economic freedom is there to keep blacks from giving a flying fukk about your bullshyt outlook. The economic freedom would exist to avoid dealing with others in large part and you can't stand it.

Reparations for ADOS is the only answer to the race question. fukk all the other bs lies and condescension.

Are you willing to stop paying taxes until you get reparations?


And you and I both know America ain't electing no presidential candidate promising reparations only to ADOS

 

[TallMan_J]

Obama gave $1.25 billion in reparations to Black farmers. Specifically to Black farmers. Is that tangible or no?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/his...dit-john-boyd-jr-giving-thecoli-props.710060/

What percentage of Black People are actual "farmers"? Why not pay some to ALL Descendants of Slavery instead of a small/minute portion? Tax credits, college grants, housing/mortgage deals etc. for ALL Foundational Black Americans specifically. But nah, he gave some cash to some farmers, so that's good enough.


"But he gave money to Black People that were born in June of 1987 though!"-You


Democratic shills and stupid ass smart dumb nikkas, I tell you.

 

[Consigliere]

Obama gave $1.25 billion in reparations to Black farmers. Specifically to Black farmers. Is that tangible or no?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/his...dit-john-boyd-jr-giving-thecoli-props.710060/

this counts

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It was a SETTLEMENT. Not reparations/redress.

It is a difference.

I am appreciative Obama admin settled -- but to front like this is reparations or a specific tangible is disingenuous.

This was already explained earlier in the thread. The lawsuit was already settled back in 1999 by the Clinton Administration. The lawsuit was closed. There was no legal redress possible. The courts were done with it.

In 2008, Senator Obama was the chief sponsor of the bill to re-open the lawsuit and pump additional money to the farmers. He HAD to do that as a senator for anything to happen because the justice system was not doing anything. Without a specific bill they would be no redress. And Obama is the one who did that, not any of the other 99 senators.

Due to the continued work of NBFA and pressure from Obama, in 2010 the US Congress finally passed the bill and Obama signed it. The NBFA president you link who "blamed" Obama for not getting the settlement yet is the same guy who has a giant picture of Obama above his fireplace and who has put in heavy work campaigning for him, because of what he was doing for the Black community.

I have trouble seeing how you're making it any different from reparations, because it is the EXACT same process that reparations will go through. The Black Farmer reparations was funding passed by Congress and signed by the President that gave redress to Black farmers (in the form of a $50,000 check each) due to a history of discrimination against them. Reparations will be the exact same thing, just larger because it will be to the Black community at large rather than just farmers.

What percentage of Black People are actual "farmers"? Why not pay some to ALL Descendants of Slavery instead of a small/minute portion? Tax credits, college grants, housing/mortgage deals etc. for ALL Foundational Black Americans specifically. But nah, he gave some cash to some farmers, so that's good enough

No one said that's "good enough". One of the Trump supporters you are aligning with already quoted Obama answering this question earlier in the thread - he did what was politically possible at the time. Giving $1.25 billion to Black farmers could get passed by a Democratic supermajority in 2010. Giving $2 trillion specifically to the Black community doesn't have a shot in hell right now. You need Congress to allocate a MASSIVE amount of money for a cause that only 25% of Americans support. Look at them right now - they can't even pass a coronavirus stimulus even though Trump desperately wants them to (for his own election chances) and coronavirus stimulus has something like 70% support, but Republican a$$holes in the Senate are still blocking it. Until you get majority public support for reparations, nothing will happen. THAT is what you need to work on, not yelling about a president doing what is literally not even possible for him to do.

 

[TallMan_J]

Ma Dukes got her mortgage lowered by several hundred dollars due to some policy under Obama's term


And we're more likely to get tangibles by working with democrats over Republicans. I don't understand what not voting does...it only helps republicans.

Alot of these non voting dudes are conservatives but don't wanna admit.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm a "Conservative". Why would a Black person be afraid to admit that? You can be a Conservative and not be a c00n or support Republicans. It's essentially about your values and lifestyle. Not every Black Person agrees with flaunting homosexuality, emasculating our young boys, feminism, no Black Male leadership, broken Black families/homes, or overall degeneracy. Those are all Progressive or "Liberal" agendas/ideas, and the majority of Black People don't and SHOULDN'T align with those values.


How do you people not know this? You're so conditioned and trained to think that Black People can/should only be Liberal and/or Progressive Democrat capers. They've really got you trained and conditioned very well.


Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and countless other great Black Americans were/are what you would call "Conservative" Black men. Many old school and traditional Black People identify as "Conservative". I'm an Independent and I am not voting this election, but you do know that there's even such a thing as "Conservative Democrats"? They do exist, you know. Biden is often considered to be a Conservative Democrat. Many of you continue to get on here and post shyt that isn't true or doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[TallMan_J]

No one said that's "good enough". One of the Trump supporters you are aligning with already quoted Obama answering this question earlier in the thread - he did what was politically possible at the time. Giving $1.25 billion to Black farmers could get passed by a Democratic supermajority in 2010. Giving $2 trillion specifically to the Black community doesn't have a shot in hell right now. You need Congress to allocate a MASSIVE amount of money for a cause that only 25% of Americans support. Look at them right now - they can't even pass a coronavirus stimulus even though Trump desperately wants them to (for his own election chances) and coronavirus stimulus has something like 70% support, but Republican a$$holes in the Senate are still blocking it. Until you get majority public support for reparations, nothing will happen. THAT is what you need to work on, not yelling about a president doing what is literally not even possible for him to do.

I get what you're saying, but this has been the case for over 1.5 centuries. We were supposed to receive our "40 acres and a mule" when slavery was initially "abolished". WE ARE OWED THIS. Yet here we are 150+ years later, we're still on the bottom, and we haven't been paid what is OWED TO US. Some of you are okay with this perpetual support of Democrats while being given crumbs. Some of you are okay with not ever being paid what is OWED to us and our ancestors. As a Black Man, I had to work 20x harder than other demographics to attain my successes. I'll be good no matter who's in office and/or whether or not we receive our reparations. BUT I KNOW that for most of my people, the circumstances are not the same. After 150 years of starting in last place and staying in last place (due to racism, sabotage, etc.), I want to see my people be paid WHAT IS OWED TO US and finally begin to catch up in this society. We don't have the luxury of white privilege and/or asian familial structures and wealth. WE WANT WHAT WE ARE OWED in order to compete in this cutthroat and wicked society.

Not everyone will make it, and not everyone will use their resources wisely. If paid reparations, there will be numerous new "Black Wall Streets" and there may be some new slums. That's irrelevant at this point. Just pay us what's been owed to us for 150 years. At this point, we've started from the bottom and we're still on the bottom. And that's after we've helped build this country under harsh bondage and without compensation for 300+ years.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and countless other great Black Americans were/are what you would call "Conservative" Black men. Many old school and traditional Black People identify as "Conservative". I'm an Independent and I am not voting this election, but you do know that there's even such a thing as "Conservative Democrats"? They do exist, you know. Biden is often considered to be a Conservative Democrat. Many of you continue to get on here and post shyt that isn't true or doesn't make any sense at all.

You're conflating "conservative" from a family morals stance with "conservative" from a political stance.

No one in their right mind would call MLK Jr. a political conservative, he was considered a Communist extremist.

I get what you're saying, but this has been the case for over 1.5 centuries. We were supposed to receive our "40 acres and a mule" when slavery was initially "abolished". WE ARE OWED THIS. Yet here we are 150+ years later, we're still on the bottom, and we haven't been paid what is OWED TO US. Some of you are okay with this perpetual support of Democrats while being given crumbs. Some of you are okay with not ever being paid what is OWED to us and our ancestors. As a Black Man, I had to work 20x harder than other demographics to attain my successes. I'll be good no matter who's in office and/or whether or not we receive our reparations. BUT I KNOW that for most of my people, the circumstances are not the same. After 150 years of starting in last place and staying in last place (due to racism, sabotage, etc.), I want to see my people be paid WHAT IS OWED TO US and finally begin to catch up in this society. We don't have the luxury of white privilege and/or asian familial structures and wealth. WE WANT WHAT WE ARE OWED in order to compete in this cutthroat and wicked society.

Not everyone will make it, and not everyone will use their resources wisely. If paid reparations, there will be numerous new "Black Wall Streets" and there may be some new slums. That's irrelevant at this point. Just pay us what's been owed to us for 150 years. At this point, we've started from the bottom and we're still on the bottom. And that's after we've helped build this country under harsh bondage and without compensation for 300+ years.

I am NOT talking about what is owed. I am talking about the best strategy for getting it. Right now your "strategy" for getting reparations doesn't do shyt to get us closer to passing reparations and is only helping your fellow political conservatives who thank you for not voting while they think you're just lazy and don't want to succeed.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

nikkas (and by nikkas i mean boule black immigrant buffer class c00ns) think condescension, insurance (that most of us do not have), and some judges who still ruled how white daddy wanted them too is enough for us to vote for joe biden.

these things are somehow enough for us to overlook clinton and biden working together to both get drugs into the country to finance secret wars (google mena arkansas cia drug dealing)

while simultaneously locking tens of thousands of black men up by locking us out of economic competition and forcing us to be low level street dealers.



are we in the twilight zone? lol

So what does not voting achieve??

Hoping democrats will do more the next go round?

What if republicans get in office again.
How will that be any better.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Also folks fail to realize when the affordable care act came out all company health care plans prices shot up. I remember paying like 5k a year for myself, wife and kids. Then the price shot up to 7k the next year. The insurance comapny said it was due to the affordable care act.

Now the insurance company could have been lying but everyone I knew in corporate america said their insurance plans shot up.

In saying all of that I had no issue paying more for insurance if it meant other could get insurance too (affordable care act).

One nore thing due to the affordable care act there is a tax penalty that was incorporated if you do not have insurance throughout the year.

The tax penalty was the same price as the lowest level option available under Obamacare

So it made no sense for anyone to pay the penalty instead of buying health insurance

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In 2011, the average employer-sponsored family plan premium jumped up 9 percent from 2010 — a big increase compared with the mere 3 percent increase for the year before. Republicans blamed the Affordable Care Act, but several independent experts told us the bulk of the increase was due to rising health care costs. They estimated that a 1 percent to 3 percent increase was attributable to benefit requirements instituted by the ACA.

Employer Premiums and the ACA - FactCheck.org

google works

 

[Deuterion]

So what does not voting achieve??

Hoping democrats will do more the next go round?

What if republicans get in office again.
How will that be any better.

Because if Democrats ignore the needs of Foundational Black Americans and then lose elections back to back, they will be incentivized to come to the table with us.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I'll be the first to admit that I'm a "Conservative". Why would a Black person be afraid to admit that? You can be a Conservative and not be a c00n or support Republicans. It's essentially about your values and lifestyle. Not every Black Person agrees with flaunting homosexuality, emasculating our young boys, feminism, no Black Male leadership, broken Black families/homes, or overall degeneracy. Those are all Progressive or "Liberal" agendas/ideas, and the majority of Black People don't and SHOULDN'T align with those values.


How do you people not know this? You're so conditioned and trained to think that Black People can/should only be Liberal and/or Progressive Democrat capers. They've really got you trained and conditioned very well.


Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and countless other great Black Americans were/are what you would call "Conservative" Black men. Many old school and traditional Black People identify as "Conservative". I'm an Independent and I am not voting this election, but you do know that there's even such a thing as "Conservative Democrats"? They do exist, you know. Biden is often considered to be a Conservative Democrat. Many of you continue to get on here and post shyt that isn't true or doesn't make any sense at all.

You can’t be a conservative and not be c00n

You can’t be a conservative and want reparations

 

[CrimsonTider]

Because if Democrats ignore the needs of Foundational Black Americans and then lose elections back to back, they will be incentivized to come to the table with us.

Who is “us”

y’all need to get off the internet

 

[desjardins]

What makes Angela rye so important? How is she any different from a youtuber?

All these black voices are just that voices. They just get paid to talk and thats it. No substance.

She was a lawyer that worked in the admin side of politics
If that was it most of us still wouldn't know who she is
She blew up by becoming friends with Charlemagne and networking from there
Charlemagne smart, he puts these black women on and they shield him from the annual sexual assault witchhunts he (mostly) survives

 

[tuckgod]

I can’t wait until this election is over.