I thought the sista first blew up cause of being roland martins show on tvone (she is in DC and so is roland). Then through roland's connection she was able to get on cnn as an analyst then came her connections with charlemagne and breakfast club...then she really blew up.
Angela rye claims obama gave tangibles to black people
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I thought the sista first blew up cause of being roland martins show on tvone (she is in DC and so is roland). Then through roland's connection she was able to get on cnn as an analyst then came her connections with charlemagne and breakfast club...then she really blew up.
By then the republicans will only let us through the back door to serve food, we won’t be allowed at table
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By then the republicans will only let us through the back door to serve food, we won’t be allowed at table
Ok who is giving us a seat at the table today, listening to our issues, and responding to them? You are speaking as if there is this party that is working in our favor that we are abandoning. The Democrat presidential nominee literally was asked about reparations, disregarded the questions, and said immigrants built this country. He is also the person behind the 94 Crime Bill where he talked about FBAs like we were soul-less dogs. Then his VP candidate said "You think I'ma do something for just Black people....NOOOOO!" and she has a history of using the crime bill against FBAs. So these are our saviors? These the ones that's supposed to help us not be at $0 median income by 2050? Agent please.
If you don’t think we’ve haven’t been at the table with Democrats for 60 years then I don’t know what to tell you. You might not like all the food but you’re eating
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hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
Angela the has a halitian grandparent, she said so on the breakfast club.
You didnt have a seat at the table, you've been going in the backdoor serving food and thought you was at the table.
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Thanks for responding.
Again, I thank Mr. Obama for any help he had on helping the farmers. Especially, the SPECIFIC policy advocacy/legislation for allowing the Black Farmers who missed the deadline to submit their settlement claims.
But, I can not and will not call this reparations -- just because you may feel like it went through a similar process. Though it did not go and WILL NOT go through a similar process.
In addition, Black Americans, especially ADOS need to be stern on what reparations means. You claiming this as reparations echos many Whites. Reparations - as we now know -- will first have to go through a Study (i.e. H.R. 40) -- and one in it's current state (without edits - doesn't promise to do anything -- but study).
If this was reparations -- all Black farmers and their descendants (though-out the U.S.) would be "redressed" for everything they have lost -- money, land, opps etc. They would have done a study to figure out what exactly was lost -- how it was lost -- and how to get these Black farmers back to where they WOULD be if they were treated equally from day ONE.
This case was a DISCRIMINATION CASE/CLASS-ACT/CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT due to not only discrimination policies, but lost of land and life waiting for their due process. In addition, a low-amount (50K) as a "settlement."
And a legal settlement (not "redress') was rewarded.
The reason why they filed:
Mr. JOHN BOYD, Jr. (President and Founder, National Black Farmers Association): And that case was heard. And we told our stories about how the government discriminated against black farmers, and how they historically and discriminatorily took our land from us by not lending us money on time. Black farmers didn't take part in the U.S. Farm Subsidy Program. So, there was a lot, a lot of problems at, you know, USDA that, in my opinion, still exist today.
Source: NPR Choice page
Source: NPR Choice page
Original Settlement and Award:
Pigford v. Glickman was a class-action lawsuit brought in 1997. The suit, in which farmer Timothy Pigford sued then-Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman, resulted in a court-approved agreement in 1999 to settle claims of discrimination that occurred between 1983 and 1997. But tens of thousands of black farmers missed the deadline for filing claims.
But about 74,000 additional claims were never heard because farmers missed an October 1999 deadline for filing. The pending legislation would allow those claimants to file entirely new lawsuits or to seek expedited payments of $50,000 under similar conditions as in the original settlement.
To hold down cost estimates, the legislation calls for a budget of $100 million. But that would cover just a fraction of the real cost. If most of the 74,000 late filers sought expedited claims, for example, it would take fewer than 2,000 successful claims to reach $100 million.
John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association who has pushed for the measure, said the lack of funding makes its passage "bittersweet." But he said it "gets the cases out of nowhere land."
"We're looking at far more than $100 million, absolutely," he said. "But half a loaf is better than none."
Source: Senate Votes to Reopen Black Farmers' Lawsuits | U.S. Senator Barack Obama
What happened next: To hold down cost estimates, the legislation calls for a budget of $100 million. But that would cover just a fraction of the real cost. If most of the 74,000 late filers sought expedited claims, for example, it would take fewer than 2,000 successful claims to reach $100 million.
John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association who has pushed for the measure, said the lack of funding makes its passage "bittersweet." But he said it "gets the cases out of nowhere land."
"We're looking at far more than $100 million, absolutely," he said. "But half a loaf is better than none."
Source: Senate Votes to Reopen Black Farmers' Lawsuits | U.S. Senator Barack Obama
In July 2007, Congress member John Conyers introduced H.R. 3073, which provided a way to determine the merits of claimants who met the class criteria in the Pigford lawsuit against USDA racial discrimination but were denied compensation. The Pigford Claims Remedy Act of 2007 budgeted $100 million for these farmers; it was absorbed into the 2008 Farm Bill. Then another $1.15 billion was allocated by Congress in December 2010 in the Claims Resolution Act.
U.S. Opens Spigot After Farmers Claim Discrimination (Published 2013)
Black farmers still seek justice
Source: U.S. Opens Spigot After Farmers Claim Discrimination (Published 2013)
Black farmers still seek justice
What did Obama do then?:
Senator Barack Obama (IL) introduced legislation to allow these individuals the opportunity to prove their claims of racial discrimination on the merits. Senator Obama’s legislation ultimately became part of the Food and Energy Security Act of 2007, passed by Congress on May 22, 2008.
What was Obama's part in this case?
The standalone House and Senate bills did not pass, but Congress included a provision in the 2008 farm appropriations bill that permitted the courts to hear late claims and budgeted $100 million to pay those found to have merit. Obama did not sponsor the farm bill. In fact, Obama — who was campaigning for president — didn’t vote on the Senate bill, the conference report or the veto override.
Obama was one of many congressional supporters from both parties. But he did not cosponsor the Food, Conservation and Energy Act of 2008, which expanded the number of farmers who could sue.
The USDA and Department of Justice publicly released a joint statement announcing the $1.25 billion settlement in 2010. Plus, the USDA could not "release more funds to Pigford" without the approval of Congress, and the money could not be paid out without court approval of the settlement. On Nov. 19, 2010, the Senate by unanimous consent passed the Claims Resolution Act of 2010 — which provided $1.15 billion in addition to the $100 million already appropriated. The House passed the bill 256-152 on Nov. 20, 2010. It was signed by Obama.
It’s true that Obama played a prominent role in funding Pigford II. His administration agreed to settle the claims that were now allowed to proceed as a result of the 2008 farm bill.
Obama was one of many congressional supporters from both parties. But he did not cosponsor the Food, Conservation and Energy Act of 2008, which expanded the number of farmers who could sue.
The USDA and Department of Justice publicly released a joint statement announcing the $1.25 billion settlement in 2010. Plus, the USDA could not "release more funds to Pigford" without the approval of Congress, and the money could not be paid out without court approval of the settlement. On Nov. 19, 2010, the Senate by unanimous consent passed the Claims Resolution Act of 2010 — which provided $1.15 billion in addition to the $100 million already appropriated. The House passed the bill 256-152 on Nov. 20, 2010. It was signed by Obama.
It’s true that Obama played a prominent role in funding Pigford II. His administration agreed to settle the claims that were now allowed to proceed as a result of the 2008 farm bill.
Cause you can’t argue that c00nI said what I said.
Not about to argue with posters that aren't worth it.
You're conflating "conservative" from a family morals stance with "conservative" from a political stance.
No one in their right mind would call MLK Jr. a political conservative, he was considered a Communist extremist.
I am NOT talking about what is owed. I am talking about the best strategy for getting it. Right now your "strategy" for getting reparations doesn't do shyt to get us closer to passing reparations and is only helping your fellow political conservatives who thank you for not voting while they think you're just lazy and don't want to succeed.
Negative. The poster that I was responding to initially was conflating. Not I. I simply corrected him. Besides, a person's morals can dictate their political views, can they not? Abortions, gay marriage, LGBT, Strong male leadership and countless other "political stances" are based upon a person's morals, are they not? One's personal values and political views are interchangeable.
You nikkas can not be this foolish. You're not as smart as you pretend to be, breh. Cut it out.
Oh, and to the second portion of your response...
No tangibles, no vote. It's really simple. Neither are we a bunch of fukking farmers, so miss us with that.
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What Reparations could/would look like for Black Farmers:
How southern black farmers were forced from their land, and their heritage
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1b6d66-cb4d-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html
What Reparations Could Mean for Black Farmers | Civil Eats
The Case for Reparations for Black Farmers
NPR Choice page
There were nearly a million black farmers in 1920. Why have they disappeared?
Versus a Racial Discrimination Lawsuit Settlement:
Pigford v. Glickman, a class action lawsuit against the United States Department of Agriculture, alleged racial discrimination in the allocation of farm loans and assistance by the USDA to African American Farmers.
The lawsuit ended with a settlement of up to $50,000 to each African American farmer unfairly denied a loan. On November 30, 2010, the U.S. Congress passed the Claims Settlement Act of 2010, authorizing $1.1 billion for the payment of claims.
The specific allegations were that the USDA treated black farmers unfairly when deciding to allocate price support loans, disaster payments, farm ownership loans, and operating loans. It was also alleged the Dept. of Agriculture failed to process subsequent complaints about racial discrimination.
How southern black farmers were forced from their land, and their heritage
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1b6d66-cb4d-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html
What Reparations Could Mean for Black Farmers | Civil Eats
The Case for Reparations for Black Farmers
NPR Choice page
There were nearly a million black farmers in 1920. Why have they disappeared?
Versus a Racial Discrimination Lawsuit Settlement:
Pigford v. Glickman, a class action lawsuit against the United States Department of Agriculture, alleged racial discrimination in the allocation of farm loans and assistance by the USDA to African American Farmers.
The lawsuit ended with a settlement of up to $50,000 to each African American farmer unfairly denied a loan. On November 30, 2010, the U.S. Congress passed the Claims Settlement Act of 2010, authorizing $1.1 billion for the payment of claims.
The specific allegations were that the USDA treated black farmers unfairly when deciding to allocate price support loans, disaster payments, farm ownership loans, and operating loans. It was also alleged the Dept. of Agriculture failed to process subsequent complaints about racial discrimination.
You've proved nothing. You've explained nothing. You've argued nothing.
You simply stated "You can’t be a conservative and not be c00n" without any explanation. Once again, you've made yourself look like a complete fool. A Democrat Plantation field worker who will do or say anything in pursuit of a pat on the head from Massa. That's all you've done.
The difference between you and I is the fact that I can think for myself and don't rely on racists from either side to dictate my livelihood.
You're literally just saying that it's not enough, not that it's of a different type. If we EVER get reparations passed it will be through the exact same process - lawsuits and political activism that lead to legislation that eventually lead to a settlement.
If you think Black folk will ever get EVERTHING the community is owed, you living in some sort of wack-ass pipe dream.
Nothing White people could even do now could ever truly make up for what they did to the Black community. No matter what result comes in its going to be a settlement and a negotiation and in the end a compromise, not a complete righting of wrongs.
You're definitely misrepresenting how large Obama's role was in it. I already wrote this shyt up and John Boyd Jr. himself dapped up my recap and promoted it on his own Facebook page, so kinda got you trumped there. If you want to deny that Senator Obama was the politician they went through to spearhead the reopening of Pigford II and the one who helped finally get the additional $1.25 billion through Congress, and not just someone who "agreed to settle", then take that up with John Boyd Jr., not me.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/his...dit-john-boyd-jr-giving-thecoli-props.710060/
xoxodede
Superstar
You're literally just saying that it's not enough, not that it's of a different type. If we EVER get reparations passed it will be through the exact same process - lawsuits and political activism that lead to legislation that eventually lead to a settlement.
If you think Black folk will ever get EVERTHING the community is owed, you living in some sort of wack-ass pipe dream.
Nothing White people could even do now could ever truly make up for what they did to the Black community. No matter what result comes in its going to be a settlement and a negotiation and in the end a compromise, not a complete righting of wrongs.
You're definitely misrepresenting how large Obama's role was in it. I already wrote this shyt up and John Boyd Jr. himself dapped up my recap and promoted it on his own Facebook page, so kinda got you trumped there. If you want to deny that Senator Obama was the politician they went through to spearhead the reopening of Pigford II and the one who helped finally get the additional $1.25 billion through Congress, and not just someone who "agreed to settle", then take that up with John Boyd Jr., not me.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/his...dit-john-boyd-jr-giving-thecoli-props.710060/
It's not about what I believe -- it is about what Black folks should get and are owed. A lawsuit settlement is NOT reparations -- and you calling it that is a joke.
I am not from the class of what White folks won't let us do -- or give us. I am from the stock of demand and advocate until it's achieved.
I am assuming you believe our ancestors emancipation to their ongoing fight for CR -- and everything else Black folks have gained in this country is a "wack ass pipe dream."
Also, I agree -- but full multi-generational reparations and redress will do A LOT to start the process. And yes, it will be a negotiation and compromise - but reparations -- is different from a lawsuit.
I wouldn't call a lawsuit for discrimination "reparations" -- and it's hilarious and sad that many of you are trying.
On the Black Farmers and Obama: I'll read your thread. I don't see how I am downplaying Obama's part -- I listed it and with sources on what his role was. I have also stated my appreciation.
What did Obama do then?:
Senator Barack Obama (IL) introduced legislation to allow these individuals the opportunity to prove their claims of racial discrimination on the merits. Senator Obama’s legislation ultimately became part of the Food and Energy Security Act of 2007, passed by Congress on May 22, 2008.
What was Obama's part in this case?
The standalone House and Senate bills did not pass, but Congress included a provision in the 2008 farm appropriations bill that permitted the courts to hear late claims and budgeted $100 million to pay those found to have merit. Obama did not sponsor the farm bill. In fact, Obama — who was campaigning for president — didn’t vote on the Senate bill, the conference report or the veto override.
Obama was one of many congressional supporters from both parties. But he did not cosponsor the Food, Conservation and Energy Act of 2008, which expanded the number of farmers who could sue.
The USDA and Department of Justice publicly released a joint statement announcing the $1.25 billion settlement in 2010. Plus, the USDA could not "release more funds to Pigford" without the approval of Congress, and the money could not be paid out without court approval of the settlement. On Nov. 19, 2010, the Senate by unanimous consent passed the Claims Resolution Act of 2010 — which provided $1.15 billion in addition to the $100 million already appropriated. The House passed the bill 256-152 on Nov. 20, 2010. It was signed by Obama.
It’s true that Obama played a prominent role in funding Pigford II. His administration agreed to settle the claims that were now allowed to proceed as a result of the 2008 farm bill.
Senator Barack Obama (IL) introduced legislation to allow these individuals the opportunity to prove their claims of racial discrimination on the merits. Senator Obama’s legislation ultimately became part of the Food and Energy Security Act of 2007, passed by Congress on May 22, 2008.
What was Obama's part in this case?
The standalone House and Senate bills did not pass, but Congress included a provision in the 2008 farm appropriations bill that permitted the courts to hear late claims and budgeted $100 million to pay those found to have merit. Obama did not sponsor the farm bill. In fact, Obama — who was campaigning for president — didn’t vote on the Senate bill, the conference report or the veto override.
Obama was one of many congressional supporters from both parties. But he did not cosponsor the Food, Conservation and Energy Act of 2008, which expanded the number of farmers who could sue.
The USDA and Department of Justice publicly released a joint statement announcing the $1.25 billion settlement in 2010. Plus, the USDA could not "release more funds to Pigford" without the approval of Congress, and the money could not be paid out without court approval of the settlement. On Nov. 19, 2010, the Senate by unanimous consent passed the Claims Resolution Act of 2010 — which provided $1.15 billion in addition to the $100 million already appropriated. The House passed the bill 256-152 on Nov. 20, 2010. It was signed by Obama.
It’s true that Obama played a prominent role in funding Pigford II. His administration agreed to settle the claims that were now allowed to proceed as a result of the 2008 farm bill.
Again, I am grateful and appreciative of Mr. Obama for helping out the farmers.
I would never speak negatively on Mr. Boyd Jr. - cause he has been through more than enough. But, as I stated this is not reparations - but a settlement.
