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You take the Latino vote from the election, and Trump wins by even more. Harris lost a bunch of ground with Latinos, but they still voted 53-45 for Harris. I think that margin will improve as Cali's vote counts come in. But I do co-sign that Republicans are winning the messaging battle. They've been building community centers to pull Hispanic voters to their side for years now:




They're also smart enough to not treat the Hispanic vote as a monolith. It seems like they've focused efforts away from Puerto Ricans and Mexicans who typically have the strongest lean toward Dems.
Latinos are part of the reason Florida isn't a swing state any longer. There's no way a drastic reduction in Latino votes for Trump results in a bigger win.
 

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Latinos are part of the reason Florida isn't a swing state any longer. There's no way a drastic reduction in Latino votes for Trump results in a bigger win.
Oh if you only focus on Cubans in FL, they for sure helped Trump. It's just kinda crazy to lump all Latino voters together, when groups like Mexicans and Puerto Ricans broke around 60/40 for Harris. If you speak to the Latin vote, it literally broke for Harris +8.

 

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We must not delude ourselves in this moment. Multiracial democracy in the United States is less than 60 years old. It has always been contested, often violently so. It has always been fragile. Since this nation's inception large swaths of white Americans -- including white women -- have claimed a belief in democracy while actually enforcing a white ethnocracy. In the face of shifting demographics where white Americans will lose their numeric majority, we see a growing embrace of autocracy to keep the "legitimate" rulers of this country in power. History teaches us that we are in a perilous moment.



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@nhannahjones
The first time America attempted multiracial democracy was during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War. A white majority in order to unify after a contested election succumbed to those who wanted to violently reinstate a white ethnocracy in what became known as the period of Redemption. Black Americans were stripped of their newly obtained citizenship rights for nearly a century in the name of national unity.



3/7
@nhannahjones
It was naive to believe that if Kamala Harris avoided discussing her race and gender, that if she evaded so-called identity politics, that she would nullify the liability of being a Black woman seeking the presidency in a country where racism and misogyny are embedded in the culture. This is a country that responded to a multiracial electorate sending the first Black president to the White House with a *minority* of the white vote by electing an openly white racist man over the person who could have become the nation's first woman president.



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@nhannahjones
Anti-Blackness continues to be a powerful force in this country. And anti-Blackness cannot just be attributed to white Americans. The shock about the significant increase in Latinos choosing Trump, with his anti-immigrant rhetoric, family separation policy, and insults of Latin countries, over a Black woman tells me too many people fail to understand that anti-Blackness is deeply embedded in Latino cultures as well and that the interests of those who are part of that very large, multiracial, multi-nationality Latino category are not and not ever been necessarily aligned with those of Black people simply because many white Americans do not consider them to be white. This is why, as I argued in my essay on the colorblindness scam, that we must stop lumping all non-white people into a single "of color" group.



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@nhannahjones
We are already seeing the rationalizing of how we got here and the blaming of the political party that, though flawed, actually reflects multiracial democracy. We must resist this. Voters knew exactly who Trump was and chose him anyway. This is not about the so-called excesses of the left. As the NYT editorial board writes, Trump ran the "most racist, sexist, and xenophobic campaign in modern history." As NYT reporter Lisa Lerer wrote today, "This was a conquering of the nation not by force but with a permission slip. Now, America stands on the precipice of an authoritarian style of governance never before seen in its 248-year history." This is the unsparing truth that we must confront.



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@nhannahjones
Black Americans vote like they vote not because they align with every single Democratic policy but because they understand this country with a clarity that can be challenging for people who have not had to live under apartheid in the U.S., who’ve never known what it’s like NOT to be able to cast a ballot, not to have rights of citizenship, not to be protected by this nation’s laws. Black Americans know American fascism because they lived under it — and that understanding overcomes any other policy choices that they might otherwise vote on. Black people uniquely understand this nation, and how awful it can get.



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@nhannahjones
Detail for me how this undermines it?




To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196

shes the one who's delusional. there are no lies in that thread.
 

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@nhannahjones
We must not delude ourselves in this moment. Multiracial democracy in the United States is less than 60 years old. It has always been contested, often violently so. It has always been fragile. Since this nation's inception large swaths of white Americans -- including white women -- have claimed a belief in democracy while actually enforcing a white ethnocracy. In the face of shifting demographics where white Americans will lose their numeric majority, we see a growing embrace of autocracy to keep the "legitimate" rulers of this country in power. History teaches us that we are in a perilous moment.



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@nhannahjones
The first time America attempted multiracial democracy was during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War. A white majority in order to unify after a contested election succumbed to those who wanted to violently reinstate a white ethnocracy in what became known as the period of Redemption. Black Americans were stripped of their newly obtained citizenship rights for nearly a century in the name of national unity.



3/7
@nhannahjones
It was naive to believe that if Kamala Harris avoided discussing her race and gender, that if she evaded so-called identity politics, that she would nullify the liability of being a Black woman seeking the presidency in a country where racism and misogyny are embedded in the culture. This is a country that responded to a multiracial electorate sending the first Black president to the White House with a *minority* of the white vote by electing an openly white racist man over the person who could have become the nation's first woman president.



4/7
@nhannahjones
Anti-Blackness continues to be a powerful force in this country. And anti-Blackness cannot just be attributed to white Americans. The shock about the significant increase in Latinos choosing Trump, with his anti-immigrant rhetoric, family separation policy, and insults of Latin countries, over a Black woman tells me too many people fail to understand that anti-Blackness is deeply embedded in Latino cultures as well and that the interests of those who are part of that very large, multiracial, multi-nationality Latino category are not and not ever been necessarily aligned with those of Black people simply because many white Americans do not consider them to be white. This is why, as I argued in my essay on the colorblindness scam, that we must stop lumping all non-white people into a single "of color" group.



5/7
@nhannahjones
We are already seeing the rationalizing of how we got here and the blaming of the political party that, though flawed, actually reflects multiracial democracy. We must resist this. Voters knew exactly who Trump was and chose him anyway. This is not about the so-called excesses of the left. As the NYT editorial board writes, Trump ran the "most racist, sexist, and xenophobic campaign in modern history." As NYT reporter Lisa Lerer wrote today, "This was a conquering of the nation not by force but with a permission slip. Now, America stands on the precipice of an authoritarian style of governance never before seen in its 248-year history." This is the unsparing truth that we must confront.



6/7
@nhannahjones
Black Americans vote like they vote not because they align with every single Democratic policy but because they understand this country with a clarity that can be challenging for people who have not had to live under apartheid in the U.S., who’ve never known what it’s like NOT to be able to cast a ballot, not to have rights of citizenship, not to be protected by this nation’s laws. Black Americans know American fascism because they lived under it — and that understanding overcomes any other policy choices that they might otherwise vote on. Black people uniquely understand this nation, and how awful it can get.



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@nhannahjones
Detail for me how this undermines it?




To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196

shes the one who's delusional. there are no lies in that thread.

Yeah, she wrote all of that and it got destroyed in one tweet.
 

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Breh

you gotta stop giving them clicks.

They are going to big up CAC's.

All that Bernie bullshyt. Anything to not call the whites what they really are.

And oh I know Latinos' and you know in the overall number Trump like improved a couple of points in the total black vote. And he did get more more black votes than the Republicans have had in years. That's all bullshyt. Black people know when they talk economic anxiety, when they talk the working class Progressives ain't talking about US.

I'm not deluded to think Democrats overall are for us, but we know for damn sure Republicans aren't for us

And by proxy Progressives ain't for us either.

Clutch those pearls, defend whiteness, act like there is no possible chance of racial animosity. Act like all those blind polls where Trump voters actually liked Kamala's policies as long as her name wasn't attached. Act like all those Trump voters hate Obamacare, but love the ACA cause they don't connect them. Why?

Get out of that sphere. Clicking their videos is giving them life. Give them nothing.
The black vote dropped for Kamala.

But still, I agree we should stop giving clicks because Ana sucks.
 

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The black vote dropped for Kamala.

But still, I agree we should stop giving clicks because Ana sucks.
I said it in my reply that Trump got more black votes than any Republican had in years. But overall the Black % share didn't move drastically.

White people and minorities that want to believe they are white had a definite impact in this. Think of the number of Latino voters that check boxes as "Caucasians" on polls. Think about white people who claim they are native american's because their 5x great grandpa was cherokee.

The "working class" voted against a clearly lined platform that when they didn't know it was Kamala/Biden. They liked it. But once they knew they didn't like it. The progressives aren't speaking about blacks when they talk about working class. They will try and dress it up, but this is about how do you center what white people want.
 

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I said it in my reply that Trump got more black votes than any Republican had in years. But overall the Black % share didn't move drastically.

White people and minorities that want to believe they are white had a definite impact in this. Think of the number of Latino voters that check boxes as "Caucasians" on polls. Think about white people who claim they are native american's because their 5x great grandpa was cherokee.

The "working class" voted against a clearly lined platform that when they didn't know it was Kamala/Biden. They liked it. But once they knew they didn't like it. The progressives aren't speaking about blacks when they talk about working class. They will try and dress it up, but this is about how do you center what white people want.
But this isn't just about white people. She held court with white voters. The Hispanics and some black people did this, meaning it was poor communication. Black people are part of the working class. Are they part of the DNC class of party insiders? Nobody wants to be honest about this.

Before even talking about white people, let's try to get those Hispanic swing voters back.

But screw Ana.
 

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All Trump cares is if you swear fealty to him. That's not letting bygones be bygones at all. If you are loyal to him what you did in the past is mostly irrelevant. That's not two people meeting in the middle and putting the past behind them. If you ever criticize or disagree with him in public again you'll be out.
 
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