An Actual NUBIAN man writes a letter to hoteps/ankhs who culturally appropriate his people

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DNA testing is showing it. Here is a heading form Ancestry DNA for Cameroon Congo:

Cameroon/Congo
Primarily located in: Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Republic of Congo

Also found in: Angola, Chad


Then I Gedmatched it for modern ethnic groups and here it is:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neo_African 48.11
2 Palaeo_African 27.97
3 East_African 9.14
4 West_European 5.65
5 Northwest_African 3.39
6 Mediterranean 2.6
7 East_European 1.5
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Southeast_Asian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ASW (HapMap) 5.98
2 Luhya (Henn) 11.68
3 LWK (HapMap) 11.69
4 Luhya (Xing) 12.07
5 Kaba (Henn) 12.47
6 Mada (Henn) 13.43
7 Hausa (Henn) 14.03
8 Kongo (Henn) 14.22
9 Bamoun (Henn) 14.58
10 Fang (Henn) 15.02
11 Brong (Henn) 15.22
12 Igbo (Henn) 15.51
13 Nguni (Xing) 16.09
14 Pedi (Xing) 16.24
15 Bambaran (Xing) 17.62
16 Xhosa (Henn) 19.28
17 Alur (Xing) 19.59
18 Dogon (Xing) 19.79
19 Fulani (Henn) 21.63
20 Sotho_Tswana (Xing) 21.72

Okay is that just from one individual or all AAs?
 

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Which ethnic group are you? You're Northern Sudanese?

Anyways I find it very funny, ironic and also sad. That it was the Egyptian government during the 60s or 70s that really erased their heritage. By building that Aswan dam that not only washed away most of their heritage, but displaced many Nubians in southern Egypt.

And you know who were the biggest protesters against the dam? That's right, African-Americans. Funny he never mentioned that. :wink:

The Sudanese and Egyptian government are what him and even you should be worried about, not a tiny group of African-Americans.
Nah I meant the Horn. I'm Somali. The guy who wrote the blog post probably was born abroad and knows next to nothing about his background.
 

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DNA testing is showing it. Here is a heading form Ancestry DNA for Cameroon Congo:

Cameroon/Congo
Primarily located in: Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Republic of Congo

Also found in: Angola, Chad


Then I Gedmatched it for modern ethnic groups and here it is:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neo_African 48.11
2 Palaeo_African 27.97
3 East_African 9.14
4 West_European 5.65
5 Northwest_African 3.39
6 Mediterranean 2.6
7 East_European 1.5
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Southeast_Asian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ASW (HapMap) 5.98
2 Luhya (Henn) 11.68
3 LWK (HapMap) 11.69
4 Luhya (Xing) 12.07
5 Kaba (Henn) 12.47
6 Mada (Henn) 13.43
7 Hausa (Henn) 14.03
8 Kongo (Henn) 14.22
9 Bamoun (Henn) 14.58
10 Fang (Henn) 15.02
11 Brong (Henn) 15.22
12 Igbo (Henn) 15.51
13 Nguni (Xing) 16.09
14 Pedi (Xing) 16.24
15 Bambaran (Xing) 17.62
16 Xhosa (Henn) 19.28
17 Alur (Xing) 19.59
18 Dogon (Xing) 19.79
19 Fulani (Henn) 21.63
20 Sotho_Tswana (Xing) 21.72
What does this mean
 

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don't take that guy seriously. He is a certified troll. I opened my company in 2015 and have 6 months of documented development for everyone to see.

He has reading problems. He thinks that if you write a story as a kid, come back to it when you 40, you been working on it for 30+ years.

stop lying nikka, youve been working on it 5 years, 30 second google search tells you that:umad:
 

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If you go by language dispersal, it would seem that West African Mande speakers are probable descendants of Nuba people and other Nilo-Saharan types in the Sudanic region.
I have heard that Niger-Congo speakers in general may descent from Nilo-Saharan speakers, but I don't know how true that is.
 

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don't take that guy seriously. He is a certified troll. I opened my company in 2015 and have 6 months of documented development for everyone to see.

He has reading problems. He thinks that if you write a story as a kid, come back to it when you 40, you been working on it for 30+ years.
We'll I'm a writer so I know how that goes. It took me 2 1/2 years to publish my first comic. It's always a process.
 

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Okay is that just from one individual or all AAs?

That is just me. I obviously have parents. And I have a whole lot of sisters and brothers; uncles, aunts and cousins. My family is gigantic on both sides.

As a point of reference: my DNA is clearly not unique if Ancestry DNA lumps Chad in with their Cameroon/Congo group. Think about it: Gedmatch has even tested for Chad, so clearly Chad populations have to exist else where. The Hausa people of Nigeria are Chadic. I don't know what that means in terms of DNA, but since the Hausa are one of the largest ethnic groups in Africa that probably means something.
 

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That is just me. I obviously have parents. And I have a whole lot of sisters and brothers; uncles, aunts and cousins. My family is gigantic on both sides.

As a point of reference: my DNA is clearly not unique if Ancestry DNA lumps Chad in with their Cameroon/Congo group. Think about it: Gedmatch has even tested for Chad, so clearly Chad populations have to exist else where. The Hausa people of Nigeria are Chadic. I don't know what that means in terms of DNA, but since the Hausa are one of the largest ethnic groups in Africa that probably means something.
Mine was similar

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Subsaharian 94.83
2 Paleo-African 2.37
3 Caucas-Gedrosia 1.03
4 ANE 0.95
5 ENF 0.34
6 WHG-UHG 0.29
7 NearEast 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kaba 1.92
2 Bamoun 2.54
3 Bantu_SA_Ovambo 2.77
4 Wambo 3.01
5 Bambaran 3.16
6 Igbo 3.26
7 Damara 3.44
8 Mada 3.65
9 Brong 3.72
10 Dogon 3.92
11 Kongo 4.36
12 Hausa 4.39
13 Himba 4.54
14 Mende_Sierra_Leone_MSL 4.84
15 Mandenka 4.95
16 Yoruba 5.09
17 Gambian_GWD 5.21
18 Bantu 5.94
19 BantuKenya 6.07
20 Esan_Nigeria_ESN 6.28
 

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Interesting rant. Where was this posted?

It's true that many African Americans fetishize ancient Nubians. I think we could benefit from learning more about contemporary Nubian culture, and their more recent history.
 

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What does this mean

Modern groups and region that my DNA is from. It is Gedmatch it is a free ethnicity calculator that you can upload your DNA to if you utilized a commercial DNA testing kit like Ancestry DNA or 23&Me.

My Ancestry DNA results were:
38% Cameroon/Congo
32% Ivory Coast/Ghana
7% Nigerian
3% Benin/Togo
2% Mali
2% Senegal
1% North Africa

1% Polynesian (Which could be Taino Indian from some ancestry in the Dominican Republic or it could be from Madagascar)

12% European garbage


The Countries should be actually seen as regions, because Ancestry tries to lump you into a Country when in fact you could be just clustering genetically with people in that region. So Ivory/Coast and Ghana will not only be the Akan people, but also the Mande people in that region. So by Gedmatching you will see which people you come closest too (Bambara, Brong, Mandinaka, Mende, etc.).
 

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Mine was similar

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Subsaharian 94.83
2 Paleo-African 2.37
3 Caucas-Gedrosia 1.03
4 ANE 0.95
5 ENF 0.34
6 WHG-UHG 0.29
7 NearEast 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kaba 1.92
2 Bamoun 2.54
3 Bantu_SA_Ovambo 2.77
4 Wambo 3.01
5 Bambaran 3.16
6 Igbo 3.26
7 Damara 3.44
8 Mada 3.65
9 Brong 3.72
10 Dogon 3.92
11 Kongo 4.36
12 Hausa 4.39
13 Himba 4.54
14 Mende_Sierra_Leone_MSL 4.84
15 Mandenka 4.95
16 Yoruba 5.09
17 Gambian_GWD 5.21
18 Bantu 5.94
19 BantuKenya 6.07
20 Esan_Nigeria_ESN 6.28


It would be similar because the slavers moved inland after depleting people along the coast.
 

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That is just me. I obviously have parents. And I have a whole lot of sisters and brothers; uncles, aunts and cousins. My family is gigantic on both sides.

As a point of reference: my DNA is clearly not unique if Ancestry DNA lumps Chad in with their Cameroon/Congo group. Think about it: Gedmatch has even tested for Chad, so clearly Chad populations have to exist else where. The Hausa people of Nigeria are Chadic. I don't know what that means in terms of DNA, but since the Hausa are one of the largest ethnic groups in Africa that probably means something.
My point exactly. You're just one individual. As a whole group and on average, how much Kaba ancestry/admixture do AAs even have? From the studies I read AAs mostly have Nigerian admixture followed by Mandinka and then Bantu.

But to give you a bone, I am hearing that Yoruba people through oral tradition claim a migration from Egypt and that their traditional religion is the same as those once found in Ancient Egypt. It is believed that the Yoruba migrated into modern Nigeria due to the foreign occupation of hyskos rulers into Egypt. And AAs significantly descend from Yoruba people. For now there is hardly any evidence for this, but point is that there are a good number of groups in West, Central and even South Africa that claim a migration from the Nile Valley. Which why I said it would be a BETTER argument to say that groups from those regions migrated from the Nile Valley or African-American ancestors shared affinity with the Ancient Kemetians going back to the Green Sahara. That is all better than saying AAs descent from almost every group in Africa.

I mean someone from Egyptsearch showed me this...
Haplogroup+E1b1a+Migration+Map.jpg


^^That is E-M2 which is mostly carried by West Africans, Bantu speakers and even African-Americans. It originated in Northeast Africa, but when did it leave that area is the question. We can find it in pockets of the Sahara and you can find in high frequency in Upper Egypt, interesting this sub-clade is not at all that well carried by Sudanese (except in the Eastern/Central region) and is absent in that region, as well as the Horn, although remnants of that marker traces to the Horn.
We also got Ramses III who tested positive for E-M2...



Anyways you should look up the Bamileke people of Cameroon who claim an origin in Egypt.
 

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My point exactly. You're just one individual. As a whole group and on average, how much Kaba ancestry/admixture do AAs even have? From the studies I read AAs mostly have Nigerian admixture followed by Mandinka and then Bantu.

But to give you a bone, I am hearing that Yoruba people through oral tradition claim a migration from Egypt and that their traditional religion is the same as those once found in Ancient Egypt. It is believed that the Yoruba migrated into modern Nigeria due to the foreign occupation of hyskos rulers into Egypt. And AAs significantly descend from Yoruba people. For now there is hardly any evidence for this, but point is that there are a good number of groups in West, Central and even South Africa that claim a migration from the Nile Valley. Which why I said it would be a BETTER argument to say that groups from those regions migrated from the Nile Valley or African-American ancestors shared affinity with the Ancient Kemetians going back to the Green Sahara. That is all better than saying AAs descent from almost every group in Africa.

I mean someone from Egyptsearch showed me this...
Haplogroup+E1b1a+Migration+Map.jpg


^^That is E-M2 which is mostly carried by West Africans, Bantu speakers and even African-Americans. It originated in Northeast Africa, but when did it leave that area is the question. We can find it in pockets of the Sahara and you can find in high frequency in Upper Egypt, interesting this sub-clade is not at all that well carried by Sudanese (except in the Eastern/Central region) and is absent in that region, as well as the Horn, although remnants of that marker traces to the Horn.
We also got Ramses III who tested positive for E-M2...



Anyways you should look up the Bamileke people of Cameroon who claim an origin in Egypt.

Another poster (Soforrealdoe) posted his results right after mine. His number 1 group was Kaba.

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/19123269/


I don't know what to say other than that the Kaba people must have ended up in large numbers in the Atlantic Slave trade.

None of us were alive when all of this was going on, but DNA is pretty accurate.
 
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