Albums Amerie - 4AM Mulholland & After 4AM (Discussion Thread)

[brownsugah]

@JustCKing coming through clutch. Rep.

 

[JustCKing]

Literally NO ONE is saying this tho

Beyonce, her father, Rich Harrison and Columbia Records are all to blame for derailing her career back in the day if you know the full story.

Breh, Beyonce wasn't even cracking the charts as a solo when Amerie debuted. She went as far as she was going to go. She never had huge follow up singles to her lead singles. And all this biting talk, come on, if that's the case, Amerie bit Ciara by dropping that lukewarm Lil Jon joint as a follow up to "One Thing".

 

[DrexlersFade]

The Beyonce stanning



Amerie can sit on my face anytime!

 

[diggy]

I love Amerie.

Once the beat dropped, my body got chills. shyt took me back to them days

 

[GASign]

Still got that amazing voice.

 

[spliz]

You really running with this story, when Rich Harrison himself says otherwise. He is not Amerie's producer and she wasn't his breakthrough. Rich got his break producing for Mary J. Blige in 1999.

Amerie was the first entire album he produced. That same year, he was producing for Kelly Rowland.

This is how he ended up producing for Beyonce and "Crazy In Love" came to be
"Yeah, I had it in the chamber," he said. "I hadn't really shopped it much, because sometimes you don't want to come out of the bag before it's right. People don't really get it and you'll leave them with a foul taste in their mouth. So it was just something that I held on to until I got the call from B."

Harrison got more than he bargained for when he answered the call, however. He had anticipated an easy day: Stroll into the studio, play Beyoncé the golden sample and wait for her face to light up. To celebrate the anticipated victory, Harrison hit the clubs. The following day, things didn't exactly go according to plan.

For starters, he was a little late. He was also a bit hung over. "Oh my lord, it was crazy," is all he revealed about the prior evening's festivities. With two strikes against him going into a meeting with someone who was working on one of the most anticipated albums of the year, he played Beyoncé the sample and figuratively fouled one off to stay alive.

"From her face, she was kind of like, 'I don't know, but I'mma ride with you anyway,' " he remembered. "I knew I was going to have to sell it a little bit, because when it comes on it doesn't sound like anything that was being done at the time."

Beyoncé warmed up to the sample and then said something that, in his wildest dreams, Harrison would have never imagined, nor would he want to: "I love the idea," he recalled Beyoncé saying. "Now write the song. I'll be back in two hours."

With production and songwriting credits for Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys and his own discovery Amerie, Harrison's no slouch in the studio, but writing a hit song in 120 minutes is a daunting task for anybody.

Unpleasant reminders of the night before notwithstanding, Harrison stepped up and wrote the verses and the hook, leaving the bridge for Beyoncé. He wound up playing all the instruments on the track, too.

Jay-Z added his part later, and though Harrison wasn't in the studio with him, he got the rapper's reaction to his creation through Jay's engineer Young Guru, a friend with whom Harrison attended Howard University.

"Hov love your sh--," Guru told him. "He played the track and went crazy."

When Harrison heard Jay's addition, he, too, had a bit of a freak-out.

"I remember when I first heard Jay's version," he recalled. "I was in my car screaming, 'Whoaaaa!' "

Despite receiving accolades from two artists at the top of the respective genres, Harrison wasn't convinced the song was going to be the massive hit it turned into.

"No, not like that," he admitted before clearing his throat. "I mean, I wrote it hung over."

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fukk Beyonce and Rich Harrison. Real talk. I dont care what that nikka say. That sound was the sound of Amerie's home town and the nikka got thirsty for bread and gave that shyt to her direct competition. While the labels was tryna fukk Amerie over. Even for One Thing. Is "chance" the reason Amerie used to open up for Destiny's Child and Beyonce stole her whole performance style? That ain't Bey's fault either huh? shyt till this day if it wasnt for the FANS. NeYo wouldnt even have the proper credit for "Irreplaceable". Cause she tried to lie about that shyt but fans got at her cause they heard his version first and she cleaned that shyt up.

 

[TheDarkCloud]

fukk Beyonce and Rich Harrison. Real talk. I dont care what that nikka say. That sound was the sound of Amerie's home town and the nikka got thirsty for bread and gave that shyt to her direct competition. While the labels was tryna fukk Amerie over. Even for One Thing. Is "chance" the reason Amerie used to open up for Destiny's Child and Beyonce stole her whole performance style? That ain't Bey's fault either huh? shyt till this day if it wasnt for the FANS. NeYo wouldnt even have the proper credit for "Irreplaceable". Cause she tried to lie about that shyt but fans got at her cause they heard his version first and she cleaned that shyt up.

People really in here trying to convince themselves that a DC native was influenced by fukkin Beyoncé to add go go to their music. Lol.

But Ameriie wouldn’t be the first female artist that Beyonce fukked over. She got Keri Hilson blackballed as well as Keyshia Cole. And there’s no telling what other female artists bag she blocked because she’s a shady ass bytch.

 

[spliz]

People really in here trying to convince themselves that a DC native was influenced by fukkin Beyoncé to add go go to their music. Lol.

But Ameriie wouldn’t be the first female artist that Beyonce fukked over. She got Keri Hilson blackballed as well as Keyshia Cole. And there’s no telling what other female artists bag she blocked because she’s a shady ass bytch.

Yo. Real talk. I feel like Bey is the reason that the female RnB space is scarce as fukk. I've never seen anything like it in my history of listening to music. Only one who truly survived Bey was Rihanna and imo that's because of how fond Jay was of her. So I dont think Jay would let Bey dictate that situation. Being that it was directly effecting his pockets as well. And believe me. Theres times I feel like Bey gets unfairly shytted on or nikkas have dumb criticisms of her. But it is what it is.

 

[JustCKing]

fukk Beyonce and Rich Harrison. Real talk. I dont care what that nikka say. That sound was the sound of Amerie's home town and the nikka got thirsty for bread and gave that shyt to her direct competition. While the labels was tryna fukk Amerie over. Even for One Thing. Is "chance" the reason Amerie used to open up for Destiny's Child and Beyonce stole her whole performance style? That ain't Bey's fault either huh? shyt till this day if it wasnt for the FANS. NeYo wouldnt even have the proper credit for "Irreplaceable". Cause she tried to lie about that shyt but fans got at her cause they heard his version first and she cleaned that shyt up.

So Lil Jon wasn't supposed to produce for anyone else, but Atlanta artists because he cultivated it in Atlanta? Do you not know how crazy that looks. It doesn't even make sense. For starters, it being the sound of Amerie's hometown is irrelevant. He's a producer, which gives him free reign to produce for whomever. His origins didn't start with Amerie. He produced for Mary J. first.

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Yo. Real talk. I feel like Bey is the reason that the female RnB space is scarce as fukk. I've never seen anything like it in my history of listening to music. Only one who truly survived Bey was Rihanna and imo that's because of how fond Jay was of her. So I dont think Jay would let Bey dictate that situation. Being that it was directly effecting his pockets as well. And believe me. Theres times I feel like Bey gets unfairly shytted on or nikkas have dumb criticisms of her. But it is what it is.

The public took to Rihanna because she made dope music, too. Beyoncé couldn’t eclipse her if she tried because she has too much support from the general public. Rihanna’s numbers are wild.

But it’s funny watching nikkas in here talking about Rich got his major breakthrough working with Mary first. I love “Beautiful Ones” and MJB. But let’s not pretend people even know of that track because it’s an album track. Timbaland didn’t work with Aaliyah first but we know who he is because of his work with Aaliyah. The sound that Rich created with Ameriie is what he pretty much became known for. The same sound that Beyoncé copied. She didn’t copy what he did with Mary.

 

[PCHMalibu]

Dope ass project. She always has solid albums.

 

[spliz]

So Lil Jon wasn't supposed to produce for anyone else, but Atlanta artists because he cultivated it in Atlanta? Do you not know how crazy that looks. It doesn't even make sense. For starters, it being the sound of Amerie's hometown is irrelevant. He's a producer, which gives him free reign to produce for whomever. His origins didn't start with Amerie. He produced for Mary J. first.

nikka I dont give a shyt who he produced for first. Just Blaze produced for other nikkas first but he ended up as the Roc's main producer. shyt. He produced for Prodigy before Jay if I'm not mistaken. Mase too. Whom both Jay ended up having problems with. At the time he wasnt producing projects and giving his shyt away to The Roc's competition all crazy. Imagine him producing a Prodigy project during the beef? Theres actual facts about how Amerie was being sabotaged. Not opinions.

 

[JustCKing]

The public took to Rihanna because she made dope music, too. Beyoncé couldn’t eclipse her if she tried because she has too much support from the general public. Rihanna’s numbers are wild.

But it’s funny watching nikkas in here talking about Rich got his major breakthrough working with Mary first. I love “Beautiful Ones” and MJB. But let’s not pretend people even know of that track because it’s an album track. Timbaland didn’t work with Aaliyah first but we know who he is because of his work with Aaliyah. The sound that Rich created with Ameriie is what he pretty much became known for. The same sound that Beyoncé copied. She didn’t copy what he did with Mary.

The public took to Rihanna because she made dope music, too. Beyoncé couldn’t eclipse her if she tried because she has too much support from the general public. Rihanna’s numbers are wild.

But it’s funny watching nikkas in here talking about Rich got his major breakthrough working with Mary first. I love “Beautiful Ones” and MJB. But let’s not pretend people even know of that track because it’s an album track. Timbaland didn’t work with Aaliyah first but we know who he is because of his work with Aaliyah. The sound that Rich created with Ameriie is what he pretty much became known for. The same sound that Beyoncé copied. She didn’t copy what he did with Mary.

Timbaland's first placements as a producer without sharing credits or being credited with "all instruments" was Aaliyah.

What is funny is that none of you are saying Kelly Rowland or J. Lo stole Amerie's sound and Rich worked with Kelly on her first single right after Amerie's album dropped. J. Lo's "Get Right" came out right around the time "One Thing" did.

What's happening is the same BS that usually happens on The Booth, ya'll backwardly accuse a huge artist of ripping off a lesser known act based on personal feelings toward the bigger act.

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Timbaland's first placements as a producer without sharing credits or being credited with "all instruments" was Aaliyah.

What is funny is that none of you are saying Kelly Rowland or J. Lo stole Amerie's sound and Rich worked with Kelly on her first single right after Amerie's album dropped. J. Lo's "Get Right" came out right around the time "One Thing" did.

What's happening is the same BS that usually happens on The Booth, ya'll backwardly accuse a huge artist of ripping off a lesser known act based on personal feelings toward the bigger act.

I have no reason to have any ill feelings towards Beyoncé. I don’t give a fukk about the bytch to be honest. I just know she’s shady as hell and her track record proves it, along with the plethora of copyright infringement lawsuits she has. The bytch is not original. She’s literally a copy and paste.

And like dude said, there is documented proof of Ameriie being blackballed/sabotaged behind this Columbia/Rich/Beyoncé shyt

 

[JustCKing]

nikka I dont give a shyt who he produced for first. Just Blaze produced for other nikkas first but he ended up as the Roc's main producer. shyt. He produced for Prodigy before Jay if I'm not mistaken. Mase too. Whom both Jay ended up having problems with. At the time he wasnt producing projects and giving his shyt away to The Roc's competition all crazy. Imagine him producing a Prodigy project during the beef? Theres actual facts about how Amerie was being sabotaged. Not opinions.

Get out of your feelings. If it doesn't matter who he produced first, you van't accuse Beyonce of stealing Amerie's sound.

That Just comparison doesn't stand. For starters, he produced for Harlem World as did Kanye and there were definitely issues between The Roc and Harlem World. Secondly, Amerie has denied any friction between her and Beyonce. They were never competition. That's stan wars that has created a narrative out of nothing.

Your whole post is based on nothing but opinions starting with the fact that you won't even acknowledge Rich is also from D.C., which gives him just as much right to the Go Go sound as Amerie (and more right given that he's the producer).