Americans and their love of firearms

[GzUp]

 

[daze23]

the Second Amendment doesn't say anything about "guns". it's the "right to bear arms" and that's always been the subject of interpretation

 

[Type Username Here]

the Second Amendment doesn't say anything about "guns". it's the "right to bear arms" and that's always been the subject of interpretation

 

[Ghost of $oCal]

the Second Amendment doesn't say anything about "guns". it's the "right to bear arms" and that's always been the subject of interpretation

I don't think they were talking about tank tops breh.

 

[daze23]

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-CONAN-2008/pdf/GPO-CONAN-2008.pdf

It was not until 2008 that the Supreme Court definitively
came down on the side of an “individual rights” theory. Relying
on new scholarship regarding the origins of the Amendment, the
Court in District of Columbia v. Heller confirmed what had been
a growing consensus of legal scholars – that the rights of the
Second Amendment adhered to individuals. The Court reached
this conclusion after a textual analysis of the Amendment, an
examination of the historical use of prefatory phrases in statutes,
and a detailed exploration of the 18th century meaning of phrases
found in the Amendment. Although accepting that the historical
and contemporaneous use of the phrase “keep and bear Arms”
often arose in connection with military activities, the Court noted
that its use was not limited to those contexts. Further, the
Court found that the phrase “well regulated Militia” referred not
to formally organized state or federal militias, but to the pool of
“able-bodied men” who were available for conscription. Finally,
the Court reviewed contemporaneous state constitutions,
post-enactment commentary, and subsequent case law to conclude that the purpose of the right to keep and bear arms extended beyond the context of militia service to include self-defense.

 

[daze23]

I don't think they were talking about tank tops breh.

yeah, that's like me saying "they were talking about muskets and shyt. not a full-auto Glock 18"

 

[newworldafro]

Let me throw a concept out there......imagine its 1940 something and you in South Carolina some and roving band of drunk white men, not necessarily white towel coneheads, stops by your crib and tries to run up in your house with your family sound asleep......imagine how many circumstances would have been vastly different if the father didn't have the fire arm.

As I posted in the "Spin-nage: (related to DKR shootings) What good do guns do?" thread.........the first gun control laws were for black people post Civil War.................

I posted these videos too for some historical context of gun control......................

"Gun control The History of Gun Control - FULL LENGTH"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKasF6l3y0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKasF6l3y0&feature=related[/ame]


The History of Racist Gun Control in the United States

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olua3WPwJqE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olua3WPwJqE[/ame]

 

[Poppa_Dock]

anybody know where the term "bear arms" comes from?

i always take it as you have the right to defend yourself if you are attacked

i doubt it was meant as "you have the right to have weapon cache"

 

[Type Username Here]

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-CONAN-2008/pdf/GPO-CONAN-2008.pdf

How does that do anything but prove my point?

 

[daze23]

How does that do anything but prove my point?

your point? you posted a smilie

it shows how this has always been about ongoing interpretations, and not some rule that was written in stone

 

[Type Username Here]

your point? you posted a smilie

it shows how this has always been about ongoing interpretations, and not some rule that was written in stone

You must have not properly read what you yourself posted. I'll let you go back to catch your mistake friend.

 

[daze23]

If You Cared About These Matters You'd Be Willing To Educate Me

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

LIKE nikkaS DON'T DIE FROM KNIFE/ROCKS AND OTHER shyt ELSEWHERE. PEOPLE WILL DIE EVERYDAY. TAKE GUNS AWAY AND SOMEBODY WILL FIND A WAY TO KILL WITH NERF BALLS.

you're missing the point though. having accessibility to weapons like a gun is a lot worse than just having access to a knife or other weapons. it's a lot harder to kill 4 people with a knife than it is with a gun. it's like you're saying "people will kill themselves anyway so who cares what weapons they use". some weapons make it easier to kill groups of people. by reducing the weapons, or straight up outlawing them, you deter people from committing certain crimes because it's not as easy...

 

[Nefflum nigga]

2nd ammendment doesnt mean sh1t...remember katrina?

Police and troops went door to door seizing any firearms. breaking entry with orders to kill whoever didnt comply.

If sh1t goes down they want us all unarmed..

 

[Type Username Here]

you're missing the point though. having accessibility to weapons like a gun is a lot worse than just having access to a knife or other weapons. it's a lot harder to kill 4 people with a knife than it is with a gun. it's like you're saying "people will kill themselves anyway so who cares what weapons they use". some weapons make it easier to kill groups of people. by reducing the weapons, or straight up outlawing them, you deter people from committing certain crimes because it's not as easy...

What happens if we get invaded? Or there is a Civil War?

What about if society collapses and you have to defend your family and food sources, as well as possibly hunt?

You're going to do it with a knife? You're going to be a coward and shuck and jive?

What happens if armed intruders enter your home, are you going to take the chance they are not there to harm you? You are going to wait on the police to save you and your family?

No thanks friend.