American blacks need superiority complex - Amy Chua

[theworldismine13]

We can be the most powerful and still help people that need help. White racists are the most powerful, fears losing their position so they use deception to rule people and this has to end.

nobody said that you couldnt help people if you gain power, you are the one that was suggesting making power your goal is antithetical to helping people or to world peace

what i am saying is that those are two separate things

 

[Box Cutta]

She actually said some real shyt....

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

but that's true of just about every empire including euroepan empires, empires tend to spread knowledge

there is no evidence that african empire were kinder and gentler than european empires

you are partially correct but much of socalled knowledge spread by European colonist had ancient African origins and I mean African empire were much more humane to those they colonized in comparisons to others not that they were angels but last time I checked no African empire every racially cleansed whole populations,create imperallstic disproportionate economic realites that are so unfair/exploitive that natives are left destitute or intentionally spread deadly diseases while using colonized people as guinea pigs or as a means of population control....cac colonization is the most extreme, brutal, inhumane, and deadly form imperialism that ever existed...

 

[theworldismine13]

you are partially correct but much of socalled knowledge spread by European colonist had ancient African origins and I mean African empire were much more humane to those they colonized in comparisons to others not that they were angels but last time I checked no African empire every racially cleansed whole populations,create imperallstic disproportionate economic realites that are so unfair/exploitive that natives are left destitute or intentionally spread deadly diseases while using colonized people as guinea pigs or as a means of population control....cac colonization is the most extreme, brutal, inhumane, and deadly form imperialism that ever existed...

there is no evidence to support your assertions, african empires were just as brutal as any european empire and the europeans took african knowledge and added to it also, the internet, rocket ships and electricity are not ancient african technologies for example

 

[Crakface]

nobody said that you couldnt help people if you gain power, you are the one that was suggesting making power your goal is antithetical to helping people or to world peace

what i am saying is that those are two separate things

No i didnt. Our dialogue began after i said that black people in America should not become racists and bigots in order to gain power. Obviously if you use racism and bigotry to gain power you will use it when you have power. You made references to how white people do it and how we should emulate that. I said it was a bad idea. You misinterpreted what i said. I have clear definitions for racism.

Treating other people bad because of the color of their skin which you questioned as possibly being ok as long as its black people doing it. I believe its wrong. Power can be attained without bigotry and racism because obtaining power in that way ensures that you will struggle to hold power after your people grow tired of killing other human beings.

 

[Crakface]

there is no evidence to support your assertions, african empires were just as brutal as any european empire

Which African empires?

 

[theworldismine13]

Which African empires?

the egyptian and nubian empires, conquered and massacred a lot of people
the so called moors and other black muslim empires enslaved and conquered a whole lot of black people and other black empires
and also there was the bantu migration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion which displaced a lot of indigenous people in africa in ancient times

 

[theworldismine13]

No i didnt. Our dialogue began after i said that black people in America should not become racists and bigots in order to gain power. Obviously if you use racism and bigotry to gain power you will use it when you have power. You made references to how white people do it and how we should emulate that. I said it was a bad idea. You misinterpreted what i said. I have clear definitions for racism.

Treating other people bad because of the color of their skin which you questioned as possibly being ok as long as its black people doing it. I believe its wrong. Power can be attained without bigotry and racism because obtaining power in that way ensures that you will struggle to hold power after your people grow tired of killing other human beings.

all i said is that the main goal of black people should be to gain power, period

if you added something else to that you were having a conversation with yourself

racism is neither here nor there, for one people have the right to be racist

i agree that power can be gained without bigotry and racism but i also dont care if power is obtained with bigotry and racism, either way is fine because black people are not the moral conscious nor the moral police of the world and world peace is not our goal

if we have to struggle for power then so be it

 

[Crakface]

the egyptian and nubian empires, conquered and massacred a lot of people
the so called moors and other black muslim empires enslaved and conquered a whole lot of black people and other black empires
and also there was the bantu migration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion which displaced a lot of indigenous people in africa in ancient times

And how did that work out for them in the end. Conquered by Arabs and Europeans while fighting one another indefinately. It was a bad decision.

We should make a thread on where black people fukked up historically.

 

[The Real]

what other article? this the only article written by her, all the other articles were written by others

in the integration process in america its not ironic to change your name and have cultural pride, its only ironic if you believe in multiculturalism

Believing in multiculturalism doesn't really have anything to do with it.

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

there is no evidence to support your assertions, african empires were just as brutal as any european empire and the europeans took african knowledge and added to it also, the internet, rocket ships and electricity are not ancient african technologies for example

i'm not disputing African empires were as harsh as any European empire during their history of rule over foreign lands..infact like last year I just saw a documentary on how the Kemite armies slaughtered whole villages of enemy Eurasian men from the Mid East and took their women as cocubines after war campaigns that had me but my point still stands that life for these people was generally better under black rule cause outside of the imperialistic nature of the relationship they were treated okay if they behaved...as far as technology created by euros a lot of it's roots are African science/knowledge for the moors and ancient Egypt and even many inventions which were widely assumed to be created by Europeans(stop light, light bub,etc) were created by the decedents of Africans.

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

the egyptian and nubian empires, conquered and massacred a lot of people
the so called moors and other black muslim empires enslaved and conquered a whole lot of black people and other black empires
and also there was the bantu migration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion which displaced a lot of indigenous people in africa in ancient times

the nile valley(Egyptian and socalled Nubian) empires were one and the same civilization...moors enslaved more Europeans(a million plus by some estimates) than anyone...

 

[Crakface]

all i said is that the main goal of black people should be to gain power, period

if you added something else to that you were having a conversation with yourself

racism is neither here nor there, for one people have the right to be racist

i agree that power can be gained without bigotry and racism but i also dont care if power is obtained with bigotry and racism, either way is fine because black people are not the moral conscious nor the moral police of the world and world peace is not our goal

if we have to struggle for power then so be it

Who should be the moral police of the world? White racists? If you want the job of superior you have to dominate in all facets of life.

 

[theworldismine13]

i'm not disputing African empires were as harsh as any European empire during their history of rule over foreign lands..infact like last year I just saw a documentary on how the Kemite armies slaughtered whole villages of enemy Eurasian men from the Mid East and took their women as cocubines after war campaigns that had me but my point still stands that life for these people was generally better under black rule cause outside of the imperialistic nature of the relationship they were treated okay if they behaved...as far as technology created by euros a lot of it's roots are African science/knowledge for the moors and ancient Egypt and even many inventions which were widely assumed to be created by Europeans(stop light, light bub,etc) were created by the decedents of Africans.

the whole notion of a kinder gentler imperialism i just find to be a bit silly, there is no kind and gentle way to create an empire

and i dont even agree with connecting african empires, a lot of african empires had nothing to do with each other, egypt had no connection with the moors for example, the notion of putting them together under the label of black empires is itself iffy, and i dont agree with connecting european empires either, the greeks, romans and british were all very different people

when it comes to science and technology, i have to give props where props are due, while there were a lot of ancient sciences and technology, modern science and technology started with isaac newton, nobody is really fuking with newton in terms of science, like i was saying in another thread any black person that thinks newton was just another cac scientist is making a huge mistake, newton is the gawd of science

 

[theworldismine13]

Who should be the moral police of the world? White racists? If you want the job of superior you have to dominate in all facets of life.

i have no idea who should be the moral police and i dont care, you yourself can be the moral police if you want to, you seem to be up to it

all i said is that black people need to increase their economic and political power, period, no caveats