mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
It's not a force. These are all part of the conditions that lead to it.
America is ultimately going to run into the arms of fascism
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Json
Superstar
Those broad conditions are present in other non fascist related developments which is why I pointed you to America’s own history. If your going to make such a bold claim, do the research to support why it’s not any number of other possibilities instead of the one you want it to be.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
America's history is fascism
But on the 14 different elements, the US is touching several which is what this thread is about.
Json
Superstar
The thread's premise is the signs and indicators of the US heading towards embracing fascism. Yet I have people arguing that despite the fact Trump left office kicking and screaming, its the fact that he actually left office - ignoring the sh*tshow that's still ongoing - everything is all good and we're just being hyperbolic leftist.
Then there are people who believe that fascism is rooted and only viable in foreign military aggression
Donald Trump was neither a populist, fascist or even a Republican. He looked up to dictators because of his daddy issues and failed so bad at populism that Bannon quit. You would have to have literally just woke up today from a decades long sleep to not understand how his bumbling through the last 4 years made the exploitable holes in our system obvious. The man was a literal criminal who routinely committed crimes while in office and is free with a secret service detail to talk about it - all with a minority rule/base. A child could see where this is heading, it only takes someone slightly smarter than him to continue to push the country down the path. If he was such a failure to Republicans, they wouldn't have wholesale adopted his politics and covet his base.
Dang y’all nigs obtuse
Fascism is about a projection of strength which is usually though military aggression. You can beat foreign governments or turn it on your own people. Trump shoving those BLM protestors out of the square for a photo op was about the most brutal dictator he got domestically.
The simple fact is that’s the one thing Trump wasn’t. He’s a bloviator but he isn’t about true military force. Killing that Iranian general was his only true major war effort and that was a bait to make the Iranians pull the trigger on a conflict.
Italian fascism is probably the the second most infamous version but people rarely acknowledge it cause it’s rise was a simple coup. He wasn’t elected.
Json
Superstar
okay. Then you undermine the entire point of the thread.
if you think America has always been facist then how can Trumpism or the last few years be a rise of anything? This is just business as usual.
Super fascism?
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mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I don't think it undermines the video at all. Indica has said America has a history of fascism and anti-democracy practices in the past, and even made the point that the real founders were John Lewis, MLK and Rosa Parks.
But what the current fascists want us to experience now is far-reaching and probably more brutal than any time in this nation's history. They don't believe in elections, which is different than your Jim Crow grade of fascism.
Json
Superstar
This is what happens when you get black history off bubble gum wrappers. Reconstruct era racism was on a whole different levelThe Wilmington Massacre of 1989 had a duly elected black government removed by a white mob and black businesses burned down
A duly elected sheriff in 1870s Mississippi was brought up on false charges and when the black citizens came to his defense they were beaten and killed by a white mob
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Yeah breh, what are we writing here?
The Wilmington Massacre of19891898 had a duly elected black government removed by a white mob and black businesses burned down
A duly elected sheriff in 1870s Mississippi was brought up on false charges and when the black citizens came to his defense they were beaten and killed by a white mob
America has been a fascist state against black people. Now they are attempting to practice this against all people who aren't wealthy. I am not sure what you are debating against at this point. All I said is America's military is aggressive via its presence.
Json
Superstar
it’s very simple what I’m saying. You need to read more history and not just what backs up the history towards your perspective.
America has always been against the poor of all races. There were farmer rebellions since the country started.
That’s what made the formation of the KKK so dumb. Pitting poor people of one race against poor of another for scraps.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I didn't just say poor tho. I am talking about anyone that isn't wealthy.
They are also attacking political opponents too. This isn't the same as in the past.
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Superstar
Corny Batman
Caped Crusader
"Nah, everything's fine." --- The Voice of Reason
I’m not convinced of this at all, and dont believe we see Trump in 2024
I’m predicting ol boy in Florida to be the guy.
Trump is a mere vehicle for the Republican party. We knew where the party was headed during Obama's presidency so his rise is no surprise. It isn't Trump that is just the fascist. It is the entire Republican party.
Republicans generally support the constitution, democracy, and decentralized power which is antithetical to fascism… if you rounded up all of your supposed fascist and asked them if they supported states rights, I’m positive they’d almost all say yes.
The MAGAs are idiots, who’s idiotic right wing populism resembles fascism.
Listen to interviews from those who stormed the capital they have no clue what the f*ck is going on.
Side by side with real fascism none of the arguments in this thread would hold up.
#intentmatters
That said, we are fine, and our future looks good.
