America is not the greatest country anymore

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This thing with that picture is that that American train was the shyt when it was first constructed. Made the rest of the world look :flabbynsick:. Other countries got better shyt cause they finally caught up at a time when better technology was available. Eventually we'll re-vamp our infrastructure and that picture will be reversed. Its all cyclical.
Yeah. Lets enjoy our shytty infrastructure now, because in the 1800s we had superior train technology, the government will probably fix it in the next 30 years, sometime. :manny:
 

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I'd rather have the oppertunity to do something with my life (US) than settle for average my whole life (norway)
 

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This clip should be an obligatory listen before engaging in this discussion. Specifically, the first 17 minutes pertain to the topic at hand. I have never heard anyone so succinctly articulate with great insight the looming fall of America, as a great nation and empire, the driving factors behind it and those responsible. Ether delivered at the corporate elite and liberals alike.

Having posted that, what country is the best to live in is a useless debate to me. It largely speaks to a defeatist mentality. If you are unsatisfied, either do your part to improve things or move elsewhere. My reason for posting Chris Hedges deplore the state of the nation is simply that the first step towards solving a problem is admitting to and accurately defining it. I'm not sure I agree that it's a done deal, but the guy's knowledge is obviously vast and his words of warning should be heeded.
 
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It honestly depends on your values... One thing I noticed when traveling overseas is other people are able to be happy and live with so much less then the average American and Im not even talking about poverty stricken countries... Im talking about places like Italy and Japan... The average person is happy to live a smaller modest existence because they don't have some grandiose view of themselves. You turn on a real estate show on cable and all you see is some bytchy wife complaining about how they don't liked one of the houses the realtor is selling to them, the yard isn't big enough, I don't like the kitchen, yadda yadda yadda... With that said... I am extremely happy to be from America. From the take no shyt attitude that you culturally develop, to the fact that at any given point I can have an interaction with hundreds of people of different cultures and backgrounds on a given week... It not "better", but there is something special about it.... You have to be proud of American history even if you are black... We helped build this country, we died for rights in this country.... You gotta feel a little something for it even if it is a love/hate relationship... Trust I'd rather be a Black person in America as opposed to anywhere else...
 

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I would def consider moving to Ghana or one of the Scandinavian countries if the $$$ was right

A lot of folks who immigrated here are going back home. Hell even illegal immigration has slowed the fukk up. The $$$$ is not here, and we are worrying about a lot of bullshyt. What made America great was its drive. Now everyone is very comfortable + complacent.

That said, we gotta keep a big asterisk on the "good old days"... back in the good old days pretty much none of us could be here talking like this, let alone having access to a computer etc. There was and still is a lot wrong with America and a lot of ugliness in its history.
 

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it was a cool clip until he started romanticizing the past america. i hate when people romanticize anything...
 
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I think America is and always will be the greatest country ever.

Individualism and Freedom are my ideals. There is no country in history that embodies those ideals more than the United States. I could care less about anything else really.

I believe in the Ideas of the constitution and founding fathers. I will never sacrifice my freedoms in this country for greater comfort, ever.
 

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I think America is and always will be the greatest country ever.

Individualism and Freedom are my ideals. There is no country in history that embodies those ideals more than the United States. I could care less about anything else really.

I believe in the Ideas of the constitution and founding fathers. I will never sacrifice my freedoms in this country for greater comfort, ever.

Hey, I meant to say in that other thread (I think the health care one) where transportation economics was being discussed on mass transit that after I checked, Japan's isn't a public function not for just the Tokyo area but all Japan they switched up into like 7 firms in the late 80s when the National Japan Rail went into too much debt. (I thought they were like the U.S. were we did mass transit privately up until like the late 40s before it being abandoned by businesses in favor of freight or when they went bankrupt/taken over). I should've known that about Japan though, can't recall everything I guess. That was sticking with me because I remember others were a little confused on the history of transportation economics and chided you for it in that thread, admittedly its not my thing either as much.
 

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before I started to travel, I was one of those, we are too arrogant, we think we are the best and need to take it down a peg because there are better places. Since I've started to travel, I think we do 99% of things a lot damn better than a lot of places. Most places make you feel unwelcome. Those that don't, the people are just as arrogant as we think rednecks and NASCAR fans are about the US. There are cleaner, places and they are usually boring and homogenous and they can be counted on one hand. There are places with singular better food because its the food of their origin, but we can still get most of it, in most major cities. Do we have a fresh fish from dirty water market with flies on it? No, but there are usually a few markets with whatever you want even in a place that has a whitebread reputation like Dallas. Sorry, London or T-Dot <<<<<<<<<<NY, LA or SF. Japan is up there though. Don't know how to describe it, but the US is like a great, self selected home theater. You can get a nice Onkyo set of speakers, but you can get a better set if you mix and match speakers and receivers. Then you take it over the top with an amp and inverter. Your neighbors might think its a waste, but they don't hear that new clear sound you have while he just got sound. You think the black man is treated bad here, get out there a bit. You think the women here aren't the best mix of a lot of worlds, get out there and see. Don't care how it will be in 20 years. Right now people come here to work, learn and move up in greater numbers than anywhere. Sure, we got problems, but right now, overall, there is not better.
 
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