Amazing how The Nfl is such a mediocre product yet has control over the general public

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That's hurt the defenses but the lack of qb's and more importantly the hard cap is why the product is so bad. Teams change rosters so drastically year to year that they'res no continuity in the sport and they'res only so many players you can pay so no team can be overly talented.

Because of the hard cap a teams window to contend is 3 or 4 years at most. The only teams with long windows are ones with all time great qb's. Having Brady Manning or Rodgers will let you contend for a decade even with a mediocre team around the qb but without one you only have a few years to win.

I dont think that's particularly true. Guys get old fast in the league outside a few positions. The same teams have been making the playoffs for a while now.
 

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I dont think that's particularly true. Guys get old fast in the league outside a few positions.

Huh? That's exactly the reason.The hard cap ravages your team of talent especially once you pay the qb. You can't keep all your elite players because they all want to get paid

The Seahawks are already going through this. Has nothing to do with age
 

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The problem is that every team is so desperate to have an ARod or Brady or Peyton that even if they don't they act like they do and try to build around average ass QBs. They overpay these guys and coddle them and that is what is fukking the position up. Guys don't have the time nor the impetus to learn and be the best they could be. People keep parroting this "you gotta have a QB, you gotta have a QB" shyt. No you gotta have a thorough all around squad that whoever your QB is can be a part of. If a QB is a superstar, then fine. However, most aren't so you shouldn't automatically be expecting that or treating them like they are. If the Texans and Colts had done a better job building their overall squads then this game would actually be more interesting. Instead the Colts let Luck get knocked around trying to carry them until his body just couldn't take anymore and the Texans are just shytty.

As far as the hard cap goes, I like it because it does force you to think and know what you are doing in term of building. You can't just throw money around. That said, there should be some sort of extra consideration when a team is trying to re-sign their own guys kinda like the NBA has.
 

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I dont think that's particularly true. Guys get old fast in the league outside a few positions. The same teams have been making the playoffs for a while now.

The same teams with great qb's make the playoffs
 

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As a guy who doesn't root for any team but watches most games because of my gambling habit it's amazing how popular the sport is for such a mediocre product.

They'res literally two or three pretty good teams and a lot of awful to mediocre teams who will win between 6-9 games based on luck.

There is also so much bad qb play and when two bad qb's are facing each other it's literally unwatchable. Tonight will be Matt Hasselback and Ryan Mallet starting and will be an awful game yet will still get ratings :wow:

Say what you want about the nfl but the fact that they have such a popular product when it's not a good product and the whole leagues built to be between anywhere 6-10 and 10-6 is mind boggling.

"b-b--bbut this is football at it's highest level. T-t-t-the reason it's not as exciting sometimes is b/ the players are all too good"

In short, ppl watch the NFL b/c it's culture because it's damn sure not quality. And up until the past 5-6 years, the SB itself was usually a let down.

That first Pats-Giants SB (with the David Tyree catch) did wonders for the NFL.

And you get the occasional 4th qtr finish like the Lions vs Seahawks the other night, but 90% of the Sunday/Monday night games are simply bad.
 

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"b-b--bbut this is football at it's highest level. T-t-t-the reason it's not as exciting sometimes is b/ the players are all too good"

In short, ppl watch the NFL b/c it's culture because it's damn sure not quality. And up until the past 5-6 years, the SB itself was usually a let down.

That first Pats-Giants SB (with the David Tyree catch) did wonders for the NFL.


And you get the occasional 4th qtr finish like the Lions vs Seahawks the other night, but 90% of the Sunday/Monday night games are simply bad.

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Have you been watching the last 20 years? Exciting, down to the wire SBs have become the norm ever since Elway did the helicopter. Yeah we have our duds every so often but it's much better than it was in the 80's/early 90s.
 

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Have you been watching the last 20 years? Exciting, down to the wire SBs have become the norm ever since Elway did the helicopter. Yeah we have our duds every so often but it's much better than it was in the 80's/early 90s.

I'm talking about consistently breh. Year to year, the Super Bowl has been on an incredible run the past 6-7 years with the exception of Broncos/Seahawks.
 
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