Am I the only one who didnt know Africa was named by European explorers? ...original name bushed

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No, you just have to slow down and comprehend what I'm saying instead of trying to score points in an argument you're having with yourself.

I'm not making up anything I said.

China is not called China by the majority of their citizens.

Japan is not called Japan by most of its citizens.

Asia is not called Asia by most of its citizens.

So on and so forth.

This is actual facts.


(just a quick visual of what I'm saying)
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You're not very smart or at least you're being a bit disingenuous. You're using an image from tumble with no source as evidence and trying to pass it off as meaning something.

Look, if you don't have anything real to add in a response you shouldn't.
 

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You're not very smart or at least you're being a bit disingenuous. You're using an image from tumble with no source as evidence and trying to pass it off as meaning something.

Breh, that image I posted is just showing you exactly what those nations refer to themselves as (with a little joke thrown in, I found the simplest image I could find to help your understanding).

You're making yourself look pretty remedial right now.
 

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I'm not really talking about translation.

It's not about translation.

Nippon directly translates from Japanese to English as "sunrise".

Reason why Japan's flag is a rising sun.

If the West was respectful, they would refer to that nation as Sunrise.

It's called Japan by white folks because that's how the early remedial Europeans heard Nippon, and it's been transliterated from Nippon to Jipon or Japan.
 

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Wait til OP finds out Jesus wasn't actually named Jesus :unimpressed:

Serious students of history first have to understand basic linguistics, and if your overall mission is to learn world history, start with the letter J in your linguistics studies.

The languages Europeans speak is all based on their original tongue as Edomites, which is most closely related to Yiddish, as far as dialects still being spoken today.

It was very difficult for European wildlings to pronounce certain sounds when they first came across Original people, because they got by with a limited set of vocal sounds before they was introduced to other groups of people.

When they 1st started interacting with other groups of people, they picked up the Hebrew/Canaanite/early Babylonian alphabet and tied it the best they could to their original tongues, and a lot of words were mispronounced in their transliteration to a more edomite tongue/spelling.

Some letters were added to the original alphabet strictly so that mostly illiterate Europeans could learn words easier, when every letter of the Hebrew/Canaanite alphabet, and their various combinations, had a direct numerical, color, sound, elemental correspondent for ritual/mantra/cosmological purposes.

The reason I say start with the letter J is because it will make you explore the origins of the current English alphabet, and it's connection to the Hebrew or Canaanite system of letters, which is the basis for almost all of our spoken language today.
 
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I've heard some fukked up racist rumors about the naming of Nigeria
Its basically the same thing white people did with the name "Miami" here in the U.S. - its a chopped-up and anglicised version of the name that one of the indigenous groups near what is now called the Niger river had for it.
Something like: "egerew n-igerewen"
Alke-bulan: According to Kemetic History “(A)mong the many names Alkebu-lan [“mother of mankind” or “garden of eden”] was called the following: “Ethiopia, Corphye, Ortegia, Libya and Africa – the latest of all.
Alkebulan is the oldest and the only one of indigenous origin. It was used by the Moors, Nubians, Numidians, Khart-Haddans (Carthagenians), and Ethiopians. Africa, the current misnomer adopted by almost everyone today, was given to this continent by the ancient Greeks and Romans. (Yosef Ben-Jochanna
I think the concept of continents is a fairly recent thing - it came during colonization, since Europe, Asia, and Africa weren't seen as separate in the same way we do now.

I think Dr. Ben is right about some of the other concepts of names that were applied as far as explorers knew, like Ethiopia, Libya, Kush, etc.
 

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Its basically the same thing white people did with the name "Miami" here in the U.S. - its a chopped-up and anglicised version of the name that one of the indigenous groups near what is now called the Niger river had for it.
Something like: "egerew n-igerewen"\

That's a fact.

The issue comes in where we ask the question, "what did the people that lived close to that river call their land, if it had a name at all."

We have to remember, there's no need to name a wide body of land, if your only concern is your immediate land.

Most groups of people never reached the level where they had enough people, and/or reached a mass shortage of essential resources, to be concerned with expanding their knowledge beyond the outskirts of their territory, outside of what can be travelled to in a reasonable amount of time, so there was no need to map anything outside of the area of your people.

Large maps was only for royals and explorers.

I'm sure the cost it took to purchase a large map used to be as expensive as buying a company today, in relation to today's economics.

I'm willing to bet close to 95% of the people living on the continent now known as Africa back then had any idea of the scope of the complete land mass of the continent, and never bothered considering a name for the entire thing.
 
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False.

Roman generals gave themselves surnames and titles dependent on the lands/people they conquered.

They had more than one title.

Scipio's most famous title just happens to be famous because some people have narrowed that title down to the origin of the name Africa, due to lazy research.

By the time of Scipio, some of the land called "Africa" today was already being called that by some Romans, due to their interactions with the people they named the Afri tribe.

When Scipio conquered a very small part of what's called Africa today, a small part mostly populated by the "Afri tribe", he named himself Scipio Africanus, meaning, "Scipio, conquerer of the Afri people and ruler of their land".

The Afri people was one tribe, not the entire population of the land mass called Africa today.

Afri - Wikipedia.

"The etymology of the term for the country remains uncertain. It may derive from a Punic (Roman) term for an indigenous population of the area surrounding Carthage."

Even that probably wasn't their name, another name given to them by Europeans.

The more I research, I don't think there was ever any one name for that land mass, or any one for what we consider tribes today, that was widely accepted.

Ethiopian, Egyptian, Nigerian, South African, Igbo, Yoruba, Jamaican, Haitian... most of that shyt is based in names that white people gave to whoever they wanted to.

We don't know who we are at all.

I used to think it was just us, FBA/ADOS, but these proudly African and Caribbean nikkas have no idea either.

All we have is the names white folks gave us, and whatever cultures we created directly in relation to our interactions with them.

Some groups have just been able to record and remember those names and cultures better than others, since the war began, but we're all out here living a culture that we didn't create naturally before any interactions with the white man.

Before getting in your feelings and debating me, every group of black people, research the name of your nation, the origin of your tribe, the origins of the foods you think are native to your people, your religion, your tribal dances, your tribal marks, hairstyles, every single aspect of your culture, and if you research correctly, what you will find is all of the information you find will start with whatever group you identify with's interactions with white people or other foreign invaders.

Sad...
You don't know what tribe you're from?
 

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You don't know what tribe you're from?

Depends on what you're asking..

These are my beliefs.

In my area of Virginia where I've traced my ancestors back to the 1700s..

I know that I am a descendent of people called American Negros on my maternal line at least back to my great-grandmother, on my maternal line.

I don't know my mother's father.

I also know that I am a descendent of people called American Negros at least back to my great-grandfather, who was a white man that was also a distant descendent of "East Indians" that settled in North Carolina back in the early 1800s, all on the paternal side of my father's line.

I don't know anything about my grandmother on my paternal line's people, but she was jet black.

I also know that my area of the country called Virginia today, had a large slice of land that was called "Igboland", named that by "New World" settlers before colonialism, that was home to and ran by a majority of people from the "Igbo tribe", supposedly just from West Africa, even though they're still struggling today to establish the boundaries of their homeland over there.

What does it mean to be from a group of people in 2021, unless at least your last 3 lines of generations all come from that tribe?

If you're what's considered as an American black person today, you're mixed with blood from people that practiced all types of cultures over the course of history.

Reason why we're so open to everybody else's cultures today.
 
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I'm a bytch ASS nikka who can't keep American dikk out of my mouth, I chime in every time I perceive a slight against Africa, despite coming from and being in the most xenophobic country there. Defending Africa online and watching Nigerian ass get whipped by my tribesmen IRL
:wow::wow:
 

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Alkebu-lan is the oldest name for Africa. In Arabic, it means “The Land of the Blacks.” :ehh:
 
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