Alleyboy says Gucci Mane's legacy is way greater than Jeezy's

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50, Gucci and Lil Wayne might go down as the most influential rappers of all time. Nice little place alongside the undisputed "pick up the pad and write aspiring to be a rapper" motivator, Pac.
 

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Jeezy blew up in the mid-late 00s but his star faded by early-mid 10s

GUCCI on the other hand was very local/regional in the mid-late 00s with an occacional hit here n there but he got bigger in the 10s and after comin outta jail he def blew up... N with the exception of wayne, he was the biggest influence on three out of the other rappers who influenced and changed the game in the 10s... Sosa n Thugga... (wayne being the other one)

We'll see how that translates tonight


it doesnt translate well at all.

nobody respects the '10s decade, nor the majority of rappers that gucci influenced, except the people who grew up on that stuff and dont know any better.

wayne would be just as vulnerable but he crossed over so hes always gonna get more of a pass with casuals and such because of the hits, while gucci's stats arent as padded & protected when he steps in the arena.

and i say this as someone who likes gucci.
 

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And normalize the strip club culture.

That is a cardinal sin to playas everywhere.

Jeezy took artistic risks out the gate, while Gucci just piggybanked from things already cool. There is a reason why Jeezy can make songs with Nas about a Black President, while Gucci took the Master P formula and catered to hoes.


i dont get this comparison at all.

jeezy & gucci are both of that master p tree.

and jeezy has more in common with master p than gucci does.

P would diss the president and basically tell white people to kiss his ass regularly, while unapologetically pushing black entreprenurship.

to paint master p as some sort of chickenhead-whisperer, is just plain wrong.
 

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50, Gucci and Lil Wayne might go down as the most influential rappers of all time. Nice little place alongside the undisputed "pick up the pad and write aspiring to be a rapper" motivator, Pac.


who did 50 cent influence??

btw, hip-hop was around long before 1996.




in terms of pure rapping, gucci is more of a spitter.

he also is way more trashy on most of his material tho - which is what hes most known for.
 

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who did 50 cent influence??
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If from my list you questioned only 50 it's cleae you're on that.

Almost everything new that came after GRODT and The Massacre, every young dude that started rapping was because of 50. He made it cool again to be almost broke and rap yourself out of poverty.

From ASAPS to Chicago drillers, 50 was the influence.

Not Nas. Not Jay.
50. Because his raps were simple/effective enough and spoke the truth.
 

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nikkas is wop children for sure

not just in terms of music but in character

they love wop cause he's like that parent who tries to be their child's friend

they feel like jeezy gonna preach & they don't like that they looking for a cosign on the fukkery they don't want anybody making them feel dumb

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If from my list you questioned only 50 it's cleae you're on that.

Almost everything new that came after GRODT and The Massacre, every young dude that started rapping was because of 50. He made it cool again to be almost broke and rap yourself out of poverty.

From ASAPS to Chicago drillers, 50 was the influence.

Not Nas. Not Jay.
50. Because his raps were simple/effective enough and spoke the truth.

:bryan:

Dont let Eminem and Shady Aftermath fool you. You act like Hov wasnt these dude's fathers for the longest time. Hov started and deaded trends off of a single bar in his songs. He had the damn rap game imitate his voice and his bars after he retired.

50 only influenced some random dudes that never really had impact.
 

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Dont let Eminem and Shady Aftermath fool you. You act like Hov wasnt these dude's fathers for the longest time. Hov started and deaded trends off of a single bar in his songs. He had the damn rap game imitate his voice and his bars after he retired.

50 only influenced some random dudes that never really had impact.
Yeah my bad. Especially after that Magna Carta Holy shyt dropped...mfks were making lines to become art critiques.

Don't mistake respected with influential.

In terms of Influence, Nas>Jay.

Most of the new generation burned a mixtape, started a sound cloud or a youtube channel to put their music out because of 50. He showed people thst even their boring lives were something that can sell if told right.

From LA, Philly to Florida, Gangsta Rap was popular again because of him.
 

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If from my list you questioned only 50 it's cleae you're on that.

Almost everything new that came after GRODT and The Massacre, every young dude that started rapping was because of 50. He made it cool again to be almost broke and rap yourself out of poverty.

From ASAPS to Chicago drillers, 50 was the influence.

Not Nas. Not Jay.
50. Because his raps were simple/effective enough and spoke the truth.


are you really claiming that 50 popularized the idea of "rapping to escape poverty"?? how old are you breh??

and chit, that wasnt even 50's lane. he had money by the time he was doing interviews in expensive cars when he was unsigned.

ASAP is sons of dipset, mixed with a combo of the south, bone thug and blog rap.
chicago drill is moreso an offshoot of the south. they sound nothing like 50 and are too young for that anyway. at best. he might be the first thing they knew about rap, like chief keef breaking his MOM's copy of GRODT.

even if those names held up, it would still be a struggle list and not much to brag about.:laugh:

and LOL @ the massacre. that chit was the end of 50.


:bryan:

Dont let Eminem and Shady Aftermath fool you. You act like Hov wasnt these dude's fathers for the longest time. Hov started and deaded trends off of a single bar in his songs. He had the damn rap game imitate his voice and his bars after he retired.

50 only influenced some random dudes that never really had impact.


ehh

jay never started or deaded any trends.

he attached his name to stuff that was already poppin and did the same to trends that were about to die off.

his voice. flows, cadences, etc were all bitten from other rappers as well. his flow/presentation hasnt been original since reasonable doubt.

i will give him credit for being influential, even if the stuff he gets credit for is either over-stated or unoriginal.
 
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are you really claiming that 50 popularized the idea of "rapping to escape poverty"?? how old are you breh??
Don't act dumb just so your whole post can seem natural...I said NEW GENERATION.

50 influenced a whole generation and that's facts. I'm not talking about STYLE, it's deeper than that. I'm talking actually making them wanting to be a rapper ffs.
 

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Don't act dumb just so your whole post can seem natural...I said NEW GENERATION.

50 influenced a whole generation and that's facts. I'm not talking about STYLE, it's deeper than that. I'm talking actually making them wanting to be a rapper ffs.


he didnt make anybody want to be a rapper.
he was already old news by the time youtube became a tool for rappers.

now if you just said that he revolutionized the mixtape game and took it mainstream, then i would agree. but all this other stuff needs to :stop:


Y
From LA, Philly to Florida, Gangsta Rap was popular again because of him.


please leave my city out of this nonsense.
 
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