Allen Iverson type opinions on 'Black on Black' Crime - A Dialogue

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There was a young lady killed in Ohio a few weeks ago. When the rumor was that it was rednecks who killed her, the thread and topic was active. When the suspects were identified and arrested, and they were fellow Black teens......people stopped giving a fukk about the story.

Dudes can front for others, but Iverson's comments ring true time and time again.

Ultimately this is a topic that we just don't wanna talk about...I just wish people would come out and just say that, it would be more respectable
 
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Ultimately this is a topic that we just don't wanna talk about...I just wish people would come out and just say that, it would be more respectable
emotions override reason and we're simply an emotional people

call it spirituality, call it soul, call it aura,call it swag

whichever way u slice it..... we as a collective don't like facts and move and react on "feelings"

and then you're labeled an uncle tom or an agent for simply pointing that out
 

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emotions override reason and we're simply an emotional people

call it spirituality, call it soul, call it aura,call it swag

whichever way u slice it..... we as a collective don't like facts and move and react on "feelings"

and then you're labeled an uncle tom or an agent for simply pointing that out
that's why youtube is the new church


same people who laugh at their "gullible aunties" who jump and shout in church.................are doing the exact same thing following YTers

feelings.....emotion..............logic and reasing take a back seat , and with a straight face will criticize church goers
 

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black people screaming stop the violence and saying black folks need to do better aint a solution...you cant say these slogans and look the other way on the issues that fuel the violence...get rid of the guns..drugs..and poverty in black hoods and the violence will vanish but all people want to do is tell black folks to do better...
 

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black people screaming stop the violence and saying black folks need to do better aint a solution...you cant say these slogans and look the other way on the issues that fuel the violence...get rid of the guns..drugs..and poverty in black hoods and the violence will vanish but all people want to do is tell black folks to do better...
Or look back a few generations and see the poverty and dysfunction

I had to go thru a program just to get a shot at the trade union

They're mostly white...and if you're already a part of it you can just bring ppl on
 

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I once had a white colleague who was hell bent on discussing race, and more specifically issues concerning the black community.

I asked him to ask me my opinion on the Italian American community or the Irish American community and so forth...

My answer like your answer was obviously I dont have one. So Why is it that everyone has an opinion on us?

Because we are the show. We are the main event in American culture. So of course he has an opinion,just like all non black americans have an opinion on us.

With that being said... stop talking in house shyt around company. Thats why I consider any celebrity saying what AI said wrong.

Why put that out there when we all know its an issue, and we all know no one but us is going to help resolve the issue? Especially when you have the prestige and finanances to actually do something?

Because their putting on a show for company. They dont want to solve shyt. They want to distinguish themselves apart in the eyes of non black americans.
 

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Ain't no such thing as "black on black" crime and any assertion to it is either agenda driven or unwitting ignorance. Victims of violent crime are always disproportionately attacked by someone of the same race or ethnic background. So ain't no such thing as "black on black" because that descriptive is derogatory and racist and only used against black people and no one else...

Regarding crime within our community amongst our own, realize it isn't a self-created problem first. Then, for where we can start trying to find resolutions, there aren't enough truth tellers in our communities. Every background has a subsection of their populations that glorify crime and violence, so that isn't exclusive to black people. The problem is the stereotype that we are more prone to crime and violence is still told and shown by nonblacks, so we have to realize the machine we're feeding when we support muhfukkas who glorify violence and criminal activities in very public ways...

We have shot callers in certain positions to initiate the change in hip hop who won't. More than any other form of black art, hip hop is by far the most influential in mainstream American culture and the most overwhelmingly, disproportionately represented by glorification of criminality and violence. That's a problem, but it's not one we can fix by ourselves because we simply don't own the wealth or entities to change the narratives...

If "they" wanted to change the narrative "they" would start representing us in a certain way and stop asking for us to play the minstrel....

We know they don't care. I wish more prominent black musicians would refuse working with artists who mostly glorify black genocide, and it doesn't have to be public, because if you do it in private you can get the message out. There is a place for that kind of art and there are times when telling those stories are necessary but the glorification of violence among black people, to black people, should not be the FACE of what hip hop is thought of...

One of those things that is what it is. I'm on a spiritual journey so on an intimate level educate those around you of the damage they are causing, not just those who are part of these activities, but everybody who publicly supports music that talk about harming other black people and/or glorifying street activity. It ain't gotta be preachy, but the conversation will start itself multiple ways. Educate those around you and maybe if enough people do so, we'll start to see turnover in a generation...

And stop letting your nonblack friends and family and associates, associate blackness with images of violence and crime. They get away with this because they can. Stop letting them do it and force them to either respect us differently (no one else's entire culture is wrongfully generalized by the ones who play the streets) or get from around us...
 

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what annoys me most about people criticizing those who worry about crime in our community are those who say shyt like "well,white people kill eachother too"

who gives a fuk what they do? How bout we just stop killing each other?

but based on that recent Lupe thread the hivemind mentality of this forum won't give a damn though.

@Matt504

edit: Just noticed that Lupes thread doesn't even exist anymore

:snoop:
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/lup...nse-to-recent-chicago-shootings.788518/page-3

heres the vid they don't want u see for those wondering


Lupe 100% correct. 1000%
 

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I once had a white colleague who was hell bent on discussing race, and more specifically issues concerning the black community.

I asked him to ask me my opinion on the Italian American community or the Irish American community and so forth...

My answer like your answer was obviously I dont have one. So Why is it that everyone has an opinion on us?

Because we are the show. We are the main event in American culture. So of course he has an opinion,just like all non black americans have an opinion on us.

With that being said... stop talking in house shyt around company. Thats why I consider any celebrity saying what AI said wrong.

Why put that out there when we all know its an issue, and we all know no one but us is going to help resolve the issue? Especially when you have the prestige and finanances to actually do something?

Because their putting on a show for company. They dont want to solve shyt. They want to distinguish themselves apart in the eyes of non black americans.
My Dad would always tell me and my siblings, family business is family business, don’t share it outside of these walls.

Too many people sharing family business with the uninitiated, unofficial and unwanted. Stop it.... Stop parading and broadcasting our issues to everyone like they give a fukk.
 
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