Allen Iverson type opinions on 'Black on Black' Crime - A Dialogue
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1970s HeRon Flow
Takin Penitentiary Chances
I'll be on for sure
OliviaTwist
All Star
I don’t think they need to be “made aware,” I feel like they just flat out don’t care to be honest. It’s not rocket science that after about 350 years of LEGAL and systematic racism Black people as a race would collectively have its fair share of problems that can’t be repaired in a generation. I don’t know about you but I’m no expert in the matter and if we and others can point these out, I’m sure they can too. They just want to live in a confirmation bias.
get these nets
Veteran
Iverson is right.
He really stood up for himself when white dudes were trying to flex on his crew. no keyboard "cac" this and "ws" that..
He really got singled out and was thrown in jail for a brawl between teenagers.
He was really locked up.
He really got clemency on his sentence from "boule" Black governor of VA.
He really got a second chance from the BLACK coach he gave him a scholarship, after every other school turned their back on the once two sport blue chip recruit.
His trials and tribulation during his career and after are well known
This dude has been through it all.
That people are copping pleas and trying to shoot down his point is sad, actually. If his view on this situation isn't valid, then who's is?
He really stood up for himself when white dudes were trying to flex on his crew. no keyboard "cac" this and "ws" that..
He really got singled out and was thrown in jail for a brawl between teenagers.
He was really locked up.
He really got clemency on his sentence from "boule" Black governor of VA.
He really got a second chance from the BLACK coach he gave him a scholarship, after every other school turned their back on the once two sport blue chip recruit.
His trials and tribulation during his career and after are well known
This dude has been through it all.
That people are copping pleas and trying to shoot down his point is sad, actually. If his view on this situation isn't valid, then who's is?
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Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
I agree with Iverson.
He came from a rough area. If you came from that type environment then you know black on black crime IS a problem.
Y’all can deflect blame all you want but it’s the truth.
He came from a rough area. If you came from that type environment then you know black on black crime IS a problem.
Y’all can deflect blame all you want but it’s the truth.
brick james
John piffington
Did you really just neglect to read all of the valuable opinions in this thread to just post some simple ass bullshyt?
Even the term black on black crime reeks of some cac shyt.
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
Iverson posted something simple and nikkas writing 2 page papers off a couple sentences.
If we can’t rise above that shyt just state the truth and say we can’t.. Rising above is the only option because the white man is not going to fix the issue they caused.
Nothing fancy just the “simple” truth. Maybe we just destined to live in poverty and kill each other. Institutionalized racism is the reason, as a group we in the situation we in BUT it ain’t the end all, be all for black people.
That’s just my opinion tho. You got to play the cards you was dealt.
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A lot of these dudes have listen to so much Tariq that they take everything as c00n talk if it calls out an issue.
You're the problem"Black on Black crime" is a myth. The number 1 indicator of crime perpetrated from one individual unto another in the United States is proximity.
"Black on black crime" insinuates that black people are looking for and targeting specifically black people. Just like "white on white crime". When actually, gang violence, neighbor disputes, etc. are more based upon demographics of the area. There is crime in all areas. In areas with highly concentrated numbers of black people, black people commit crimes against other black people. In areas with highly concentrated numbers of white people, white people commit crimes against other white people.
"Black on black crime" was a way for someone who is not black to point a finger at black people, and it worked sadlyInstead of looking at police brutality (the abuse of power from someone meant to serve the public) we are shown numbers of criminals committing crimes and told to focus on the race of those involved, a completely unrelated argument.
Black people should not say "we need to end black on black crime" because that is just "crime". What we need to focus on is changing gang culture in African American communities. We need to be specific with our conversations, our plans, and our actions, instead of just saying "black on black crime"
Breh, you're on some disrespectful shyt and you don't realize it.
Today, though, I'm not on some troll shyt. I'm mature.
Iverson posted something, right?
And what did you think the goal was? To get civil rights leaders dikk hard?
No, it was to stir conversation and create the momentum for intellectual discussion on black issues; even if we disagree.
We are all going to disagree and while so many holier than thou people can somehow look at this thread like it was a waste... nikkas are hypocrites trying to derail discussion but somehow expect brehs who are in much more stressful circumstance to talk it out and rise above violence.
There is a bigger problem related to the black community than violence. It's a disrespect of the next breh's opinion.
I definitely don't agree with him or your opinion. However, I respected Iverson's opinion enough for me not to just create a thread and say, "fukk that nikka."
The audacity of brehs to shame the street nikka for not being able to talk out their issues and communicate with the nikka in the next hood... Yet on a black site, the same brehs are disregarding the next breh's opinion just because it differs. Ironic.
That being said, I appreciate your reading my post, if you did.
No. 1, I've been one of the biggest critics of that breh.
No. 2, My whole post was an attempt to dissect his opinion, respectfully disagree and then state my reasons why I disagree.
That's literally the anti-thesis of just labeling the next nikka's dissenting opinion as c00n talk.
That's yall favorite strawman/dog whistle to dismiss ppl's opinions ain't it? It used to be cac, c00n, agent. Now it's tariq.
Two sides of tha same coin. :goodshyt:
I came from that environment too. The PROBLEM is making it about us being black and simply saying black people just have to do better. It’s bigger than us.
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
I wasn’t on any disrespectful shyt I or I wasn’t intended to be.
I read what you wrote. I agree with the cause. But that don’t have to be the end result. That’s all I’m saying. Why should we succumb to this situation in America. What’s stopping us to rise above. We can do waaaaaaayyy better than we doing now. That’s the problem. I just can’t rape my head around that just because you poor you got to be a savage. There are more poor white people than black people am I correct? Who commits more murders? I know the answers. I just want to know the why.
Our culture is rotten. You can only change. The white man is not going to save the black man in America.
Maybe I see shyt different because I rose above and made it out the hood.
I’m not even bout to read all that bullshyt.
This is the real, it’s a problem when black people are killed, period.
That needs to be the one and only lasting message in this dumb ass debate.
The problem I have with folks who automatically get tight when they hear someone say “we need to stop killing each other” is that they assume that means that person is excusing police brutality and systemic racism.
That’s usually not the case.
There’s strength in numbers, and the more of us there are, the better chance we have at overcoming the bullshyt done to us by others.
So yes, senseless black on black murders are a huge problem that needs to be addressed, and we need to start being just as hard on black people that kill other black people as we are on police and racist cacs.
We get so caught up in our political stances that sometimes we lose collective common sense.
What message are we sending to black youth when we get all up in arms when a white person kills a black man, but when a black person kills a black man, we aren’t nearly as upset, unless it’s a famous rapper.
Often times we celebrate murderers, who more than likely killed another black man, as long as we’re on their side of the argument.
I’ve seen nikkas come home from doing long bids for murder get parties thrown in their honor, with children in attendance, like they just graduated college or came home as a war hero.
We have to be responsible for our own bullshyt before we can successfully fight bullshyt done to us by others.
This is the real, it’s a problem when black people are killed, period.
That needs to be the one and only lasting message in this dumb ass debate.
The problem I have with folks who automatically get tight when they hear someone say “we need to stop killing each other” is that they assume that means that person is excusing police brutality and systemic racism.
That’s usually not the case.
There’s strength in numbers, and the more of us there are, the better chance we have at overcoming the bullshyt done to us by others.
So yes, senseless black on black murders are a huge problem that needs to be addressed, and we need to start being just as hard on black people that kill other black people as we are on police and racist cacs.
We get so caught up in our political stances that sometimes we lose collective common sense.
What message are we sending to black youth when we get all up in arms when a white person kills a black man, but when a black person kills a black man, we aren’t nearly as upset, unless it’s a famous rapper.
Often times we celebrate murderers, who more than likely killed another black man, as long as we’re on their side of the argument.
I’ve seen nikkas come home from doing long bids for murder get parties thrown in their honor, with children in attendance, like they just graduated college or came home as a war hero.
We have to be responsible for our own bullshyt before we can successfully fight bullshyt done to us by others.