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How was I insulting you by saying you are only pro-Black male? Everyone can see that already. Don't mistake me being the first one to tell you for me being the first one to know it.
This is an ad hominem attack. I've already that I'm pro black people, not just pro black men. You need to get your head out of your ass as listen for a change. You can't tell me how I feel.

And you don't have a point. In your nonsensical world, the Black male, no matter his character no matter his qualifications no matter his intentions, deserves title of leadership and head. His decisions and thoughts on matters automatically count for more and hold more weight than any woman. According to you, this is just nature and the order of things. You even said Black women are less of a threat and thus Black women's movements and achievements matter less when it comes to white supremacy, and its really Black men's movements and achievements that can defeat it.
My thoughts and feelings concerning gender roles is irrelevant to this discussion. This "according to you...." bullshyt is what you're tryin to project on to me. You ask me how I feel, you don't tell me.

In this white male patriarchal society, black women are less of a threat than black men. That's just a fact of the matter that has nothing to do with my personal opinion of gender roles. It's obvious that you have major resentment toward traditional gender roles and all of that, but don't let that resentment keep you from being honest with yourself.

Now, suddenly in this instance where Black men can potentially be more sought after and desired by other women, something that would do nothing other than feed their ego, its not the decision of the man that holds more weight, but the decision of the woman. How can this be?

The man is the ultimate leader and head to you, but his choosing to marry out means LESS to his community than a woman choosing the same? It can't be that you believe that the white women who Black men marry take on Black culture because they don't, and it certainly can't be that you are saying their biracial children marry Black, because they overwhelmingly do not. So explain how these two things can work at the same time without you being a raging hypocrite and fraud: 1) Black male leadership >>>> 2) Black men choosing to date and marry out is not as harmful as Black women choosing to do so.

I am interested to see how many sides of your mouth you can talk out of to defend your delusions.
You're a babbling fool. Your comments are embarrassing. I'll sai it again for you. My point in this discussion has nothing to do with my personal opinion on gender roles or the position that men and women should play in relationships with each other. I'm simply commenting on the reality of life here and now in America. Whether you like it or not this is a society that is ran by white men who have instituted a system of supremacy/racism that ensures their supremacy. That is the context in which I'm speaking. Regardless if I like it or not(obviously I don't) black men are not the leaders of our communities courtesy of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy has taken major steps to prevent black men from leading the black community. I didn't say that black women carry more weight. What I said was bat black women who choose to be with white men are perpetuating white supremacy. Again, white supremacy as about keeping white men at the top of the totem pole. A white woman who chooses a black man or non white man does not perpetuate white male supremacy, it threatens it. This is why white men go so hard on their women for dating out, especially when it's with a black man. You're trying to call me a hypocrite for acknowledging the hypocrisy in white men and their system of racism. What part of what I'm saying don't you get? Do you not understand that white men are in control of this society? Do you not understand that white men are the main beneficiaries and perpetuators of the system of white supremacy? Do you understand that gender and traditional gender roles do matter even if you don't agree with them? I'm really disappointed in your level of intellect or lack thereof.
 
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This is an ad hominem attack. I've already that I'm pro black people, not just pro black men. You need to get your head out of your ass as listen for a change. You can't tell me how I feel.

So you type essays and diatribes attacking me as a Black feminist but want to cry ad hominem when a reasonable deduction is made about your own words? OK.

You need to get your head out of your ass and accept that everything about your beliefs is pro-Black male. Just because you say "nuh uh!" doesn't mean its not the case.

My thoughts and feelings concerning gender roles is irrelevant to this discussion. This "according to you...." bullshyt is what you're tryin to project on to me. You ask me how I feel, you don't tell me.

In this white male patriarchal society, black women are less of a threat than black men. That's just a fact of the matter that has nothing to do with my personal opinion of gender roles. It's obvious that you have major resentment toward traditional gender roles and all of that, but don't let that resentment keep you from being honest with yourself.

Gender roles and the attribution of 'importance' and 'level of threat' are irrelevant to a discussion about white male patriarchy? :mjlol: You are in over your head.

You're a babbling fool. Your comments are embarrassing. I'll sai it again for you. My point in this discussion has nothing to do with my personal opinion on gender roles or the position that men and women should play in relationships with each other. I'm simply commenting on the reality of life here and now in America. Whether you like it or not this is a society that is ran by white men who have instituted a system of supremacy/racism that ensures their supremacy. That is the context in which I'm speaking. Regardless if I like it or not(obviously I don't) black men are not the leaders of our communities courtesy of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy has taken major steps to prevent black men from leading the black community. I didn't say that black women carry more weight. What I said was bat black women who choose to be with white men are perpetuating white supremacy. Again, white supremacy as about keeping white men at the top of the totem pole. A white woman who chooses a black man or non white man does not perpetuate white male supremacy, it threatens it. This is why white men go so hard on their women for dating out, especially when it's with a black man. You're trying to call me a hypocrite for acknowledging the hypocrisy in white men and their system of racism. What part of what I'm saying don't you get? Do you not understand that white men are in control of this society? Do you not understand that white men are the main beneficiaries and perpetuators of the system of white supremacy? Do you understand that gender and traditional gender roles do matter even if you don't agree with them? I'm really disappointed in your level of intellect or lack thereof.

I can't even believe you are too dense to see how your point is utterly stupid and if true would only make sense if you were saying it in the opposite way. You literally typed the bolded with a smile on your face and didn't realize how backwards it is to the point you are actually trying to make :mindblown:

If WHITE MEN, who are in CONTROL OF SOCIETY, are choosing BLACK over WHITE, how is BLACK MEN, who are NOT IN CONTROL OF SOCIETY, choosing WHITE over BLACK, more of a threat to white male supremacy?? What white men's minds are being changed by Black men marrying white women??? Isn't it THEM that has to be changed since its THEM who is in power?

Keep in mind I don't even believe the idiocy that Black people marrying white does a damn thing to effect white supremacy, but I am just following your purely egotistical, desperate for validation train of thought all the way to the end of the tunnel (that has a brick wall at the end of it).
 

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So you type essays and diatribes attacking me as a Black feminist but want to cry ad hominem when a reasonable deduction is made about your own words? OK.

You need to get your head out of your ass and accept that everything about your beliefs is pro-Black male. Just because you say "nuh uh!" doesn't mean its not the case.
You're talking that black feminist rhetoric and you haven't denied that you're a black feminist. It's reasonable to deduce that you're a black feminist. I've denied being only pro black male and I've made it clear that a black man can't be pro black with a non black woman in my opinion. You're actually ignoring my words in an attempt to paint me as who you want me to be. Your dishonesty and lack of logic/common sense fits the black feminist profile to a T.

Gender roles and the attribution of 'importance' and 'level of threat' are irrelevant to a discussion about white male patriarchy? :mjlol: You are in over your head.
I said "my" thoughts meaning how I personally feel about gender roles. Your whole argument here is based on a strawman that you've built and projected on to me. You don't know how I personally feel about gender roles and the positions that men and women should play. "You think that a man should always be the leader even when he isn't fit blah blah". I haven't said that you pulled that from your own ass. How you and I personally feel about gender roles is what's irrelevant to this discussion because gender roles in this society are already established whether we personally agree with them or not. In this society white men are the main beneficiaries and perptuators of white supremacy. Please try and keep up.

I can't even believe you are too dense to see how your point is utterly stupid and if true would only make sense if you were saying it in the opposite way. You literally typed the bolded with a smile on your face and didn't realize how backwards it is to the point you are actually trying to make :mindblown:

If WHITE MEN, who are in CONTROL OF SOCIETY, are choosing BLACK over WHITE, how is BLACK MEN, who are NOT IN CONTROL OF SOCIETY, choosing WHITE over BLACK, more of a threat to white male supremacy?? What white men's minds are being changed by Black men marrying white women??? Isn't it THEM that has to be changed since its THEM who is in power?
:snoop: You don't even comprehend my point. It's not about white men's minds being changed by black men with white women. It's about the myth that white men are superior being shattered by white women choosing non white men(especially black men). White men have gone to great lengths spending centuries white-washing history even going so far as to hijack the image of Jesus all in effort to perpetuate the myth that they are superior. When white women seek black men not only does that reject that myth it weakens the white gene pool. This is why white men go so hard on white women who seek black men. My point is substantiated in the hypocrisy regarding white men and how they feel about IR couplings.

Keep in mind I don't even believe the idiocy that Black people marrying white does a damn thing to effect white supremacy, but I am just following your purely egotistical, desperate for validation train of thought all the way to the end of the tunnel (that has a brick wall at the end of it).
Its been established that you're too stupid to follow my train of thought. My point of view has nothing to do with seeking validation from other races of women. I'll say again since you're slow. I'm Against blacks dating out and I don't think that a black person can be truly pro black with a non black mate. My position in this topic is that because this is a society that is controlled by white men based on a system that ensures their supremacy, the dynamics regarding gender and black-white pairings are different. "well black women being with white men is the same as black men being with white women". No, it's not. You can try and put extra shyt on me because I acknowledge that fact but that's just you being an insecure illogical type chic who has a hard time understanding and dealing with the truth.
 

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You're talking that black feminist rhetoric and you haven't denied that you're a black feminist. It's reasonable to deduce that you're a black feminist. I've denied being only pro black male and I've made it clear that a black man can't be pro black with a non black woman in my opinion. You're actually ignoring my words in an attempt to paint me as who you want me to be. Your dishonesty and lack of logic/common sense fits the black feminist profile to a T.

I am 100% a Black feminist. Any Black person who calls themselves pro-Black and isn't in support of equality for Black women is a liar and a fraud. Like yourself. Thats the funny part, you keep denying being pro-Black male only but your hatred of Black feminism speaks volumes. What pro-Black person is AGAINST the equality of an entire half of the thing they are supposedly "pro"? No one who actually has Black women's interest at heart could and would paint Black feminism as the worst thing in the world as you have and continue to do.

I said "my" thoughts meaning how I personally feel about gender roles. Your whole argument here is based on a strawman that you've built and projected on to me. You don't know how I personally feel about gender roles and the positions that men and women should play. "You think that a man should always be the leader even when he isn't fit blah blah". I haven't said that you pulled that from your own ass. How you and I personally feel about gender roles is what's irrelevant to this discussion because gender roles in this society are already established whether we personally agree with them or not. In this society white men are the main beneficiaries and perptuators of white supremacy. Please try and keep up.

Nope. I've seen your posts and the posts of the rest of the fake pro-Black militant hypocrites on this board and none of the things I've said were pulled from thin air like you want to pretend. Be real about your beliefs and stand by them. I know I have. Or, if you find that hard to do, maybe reassess them, because there is obviously something wrong in them if you are afraid to say what you mean and mean what you say.

:snoop: You don't even comprehend my point. It's not about white men's minds being changed by black men with white women. It's about the myth that white men are superior being shattered by white women choosing non white men(especially black men). White men have gone to great lengths spending centuries white-washing history even going so far as to hijack the image of Jesus all in effort to perpetuate the myth that they are superior. When white women seek black men not only does that reject that myth it weakens the white gene pool. This is why white men go so hard on white women who seek black men. My point is substantiated in the hypocrisy regarding white men and how they feel about IR couplings.

:snoop: You really don't understand your own argument and how it works against you.

Again, if what you are saying makes any lick of sense whatsoever, it would matter most what the person who is admittedly at the top of the food chain does. Not what the person 2nd to the bottom or the person 2nd to the top does. That means, a white man, who is in charge, choosing to be with a Black woman, who is at the bottom of society according to the system he created, would have a lot more of an effect on white supremacy than a white woman (who according to you has no power and all oppression only comes from white men--a very fitting position for you to take considering this discussion) choosing a Black man.

Who you choose to have sex with and marry has absolutely no effect on white supremacy whatsoever though. You are only taking the position that it can because you want you some white women and/or you want desperately to have your 'beauty' validated by them being open to having relationships with you.

Case in point, Black men have been chasing after and getting white women for the past few decades now. Yet still, Black boys get shot like animals in the streets and their murderers get off scot free. And it was white women that ENSURED the murderer got off scot free. Look at the dent your white women worship is putting in white supremacy, you are really showing them :mjlol:

And it weakens the white gene pool, really?? I'm hoping you're saying the child a white woman and Black man creates would be neither Black or white because you cannot be stupid enough to believe a Black child can come out of a non-Black womb. And if it weakens anything it weakens the Black gene pool, have some pride in yourself.

Its been established that you're too stupid to follow my train of thought. My point of view has nothing to do with seeking validation from other races of women. I'll say again since you're slow. I'm Against blacks dating out and I don't think that a black person can be truly pro black with a non black mate. My position in this topic is that because this is a society that is controlled by white men based on a system that ensures their supremacy, the dynamics regarding gender and black-white pairings are different. "well black women being with white men is the same as black men being with white women". No, it's not. You can try and put extra shyt on me because I acknowledge that fact but that's just you being an insecure illogical type chic who has a hard time understanding and dealing with the truth.

No, what has been established is that you put white women on a pedestal. Which is why you truly believe who they select to fetishize and sleep with actually has any effect whatsoever on white supremacy, while simultaneously believing they have no power and are not the issue in comparison to white men. White women have sex with dogs and spoiled food, what effect do you think this has had on the system? Funny enough, White women have sex with, marry, and DESIRE white men the most (sorry to burst your bubble, you'll have to get your validation elsewhere) and THEY don't even see equality as women. Shouldn't that make you realize how stupid your idea is, that you putting your penis in white women does any damn thing to combat the superiority even they know they have over you??
 
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I am 100% a Black feminist. Any Black person who calls themselves pro-Black and isn't in support of equality for Black women is a liar and a fraud. Like yourself. Thats the funny part, you keep denying being pro-Black male only but your hatred of Black feminism speaks volumes. What pro-Black person is AGAINST the equality of an entire half of the thing they are supposedly "pro"? No one who actually has Black women's interest at heart could and would paint Black feminism as the worst thing in the world as you have and continue to do.
You're a clown who simply can't help yourself from inserting bullshyt into the conversation. I'm not against equalit for black women. That's a lie you're telling to try and discredit me because I'm opposed to black feminism. While I don't hate or think that black feminism is the worst thing in the world I do think that it's a divisive "movement" for black women who resent/hate black men. The rhetoric that comes from black feminists is anti black men and it sounds just like the rhetoric that you hear from white supremacists. Your attempt to paint anyone who doesn't agree with "black feminism" as being opposed to equality for black women is pathetically disingenuous. There are plenty of black women who oppose the black feminist movement.

Nope. I've seen your posts and the posts of the rest of the fake pro-Black militant hypocrites on this board and none of the things I've said were pulled from thin air like you want to pretend. Be real about your beliefs and stand by them. I know I have. Or, if you find that hard to do, maybe reassess them, because there is obviously something wrong in them if you are afraid to say what you mean and mean what you say.
:pachaha: I'm certainly not going to argue with your dumbass over how I feel. You need to take that chip off of your shoulder and check yourself. You're never going to be taken seriously or given any respect acting like an irrational idiot who's not even willing to listen.

Me: "I don't oppose equality for black women, fukk are you talking about?"

You: "uh huhhhh yes you do, you hate black women so stop being scared and just admit it"

fukk outta here with that dumb shyt.

:snoop: You really don't understand your own argument and how it works against you.

Again, if what you are saying makes any lick of sense whatsoever, it would matter most what the person who is admittedly at the top of the food chain does. Not what the person 2nd to the bottom or the person 2nd to the top does. That means, a white man, who is in charge, choosing to be with a Black woman, who is at the bottom of society according to the system he created, would have a lot more of an effect on white supremacy than a white woman (who according to you has no power and all oppression only comes from white men--a very fitting position for you to take considering this discussion) choosing a Black man.
Again for your stupid ass, white supremacy is about keeping white men at the top of the food chain. I've never claimed that white women have no power or play no role in perpetuating white supremacy. That's just yet another lie that you're telling. I'm simply acknowledging the FACT that this is a white male patriarchal society that's based onthe myth of white male superiority. A select few white men choosing to be black women doesn't threaten that myth for the same reasons that slave masters raping black female slaves didn't threaten slavery. On the flip side though, white women choosing non white men(black men especially) does threaten the myth that white men are superior. What's so difficult to understand? The point that I'm making here is based on simple logic and common sense. All you have to do is look at history and the lengths that white men have gone to just to keep white women from black men. I'm not thirsty for white womenin the least, I'm just acknowledging the truth. One of white mens' biggest fears is white women being with black men and this has been clearly illustrated throughout history. A lot of laws were put on the books based on the strength of this very fear. Cocaine was made illegal based on the fear that it was causing black men to go around smashing white women. Prostitution was made illegal based on the fear that black men pimping/trafficking white women. The examples that illustrate the incurable fear that white men have of black men being with white women is endless. There's been no effort to keep black women from white men though. There's never been a time when white men haven't had access(whether by force or choice) to black women and that's because that pairing isn't a threat to the myth that white men are superior.

Who you choose to have sex with and marry has absolutely no effect on white supremacy whatsoever though. You are only taking the position that it can because you want you some white women and/or you want desperately to have your 'beauty' validated by them being open to having relationships with you.
You're a mental midget who's only good for telling me how i feel while making up your own bullshyt and trying to project it on me. See if you were smarter you wouldn't have to resort to thos weak mindless type shyt.

Go tell white men that who white women choose to be with doesn't any effect on them and their system of supremacy. Tell them to stop going so hard on white women dare go outside of the race since it doesn't mean anything. You're a fukking idiot.

Case in point, Black men have been chasing after and getting white women for the past few decades now. Yet still, Black boys get shot like animals in the streets and their murderers get off scot free. And it was white women that ENSURED the murderer got off scot free. Look at the dent your white women worship is putting in white supremacy, you are really showing them :mjlol:
Here you go arguing with/chastising yourself again. I've never worshipped white women. My lady is black and so are our kids. Your anti black male stereotypes and generalizations simply don't fit me.

As far as what you're actually saying yes those white women on the Trayvon jury are racist as are most white women. That doesn't discount my point whatsoever though. I guarantee all of those white women were married to white men. Not only do they not reject white supremacy they perpetuate it. I suspect that if that jury had been composed of white women with black men or other non white men the verdict would've been different. Again, a white woman who with a black man(unless the black man is bonafide wannabe white man Clearance Thomas type c00n)is a direct challenge to white male supremacy. That's my point. Of course white women with white men are racist will perpetuate white male supremacy. We're this deep into the convo ad you still don't have a full understanding of my position. That's embarrassing for you.

And it weakens the white gene pool, really?? I'm hoping you're saying the child a white woman and Black man creates would be neither Black or white because you cannot be stupid enough to believe a Black child can come out of a non-Black womb. And if it weakens anything it weakens the Black gene pool, have some pride in yourself.
It weakens the gene pool from the racist white man's perspective. Obviously I don't personally feel that way. I forgot that you have to be spoonfed, my bad. The concept of race is a social construct not a biological. The rules regarding race have already been determined regardless of whether you personally agree or not. You're an idiot who lives in her own alternate universe. You don't get to make up your own rules regarding race and pretend is if it's the standard that our society adheres to. In our society any person who is visibly of African descent is black. Of course black children can be born from non black wombs. What planet are you from? So you're one of these clowns who refuses to acknowledge that Obama is black?

No, what has been established is that you put white women on a pedestal. Which is why you truly believe who they select to fetishize and sleep with actually has any effect whatsoever on white supremacy, while simultaneously believing they have no power and are not the issue in comparison to white men. White women have sex with dogs and spoiled food, what effect do you think this has had on the system? Funny enough, White women have sex with, marry, and DESIRE white men the most (sorry to burst your bubble, you'll have to get your validation elsewhere) and THEY don't even see equality as women. Shouldn't that make you realize how stupid your idea is, that you putting your penis in white women does any damn thing to combat the superiority even they know they have over you??
You're so broken and insecure that your emotions won't allow you to comprehend what I'm saying. You insist upon misrepresenting what I'm saying in an effort to force me into some anti black man stereotype. It's really useless to continue this because you're too stupid to get it. I can say "I'm against blacks going outside of the race and I don't think that you can be pro black with a non black person" a million times and you'll still come back on this same dumb shyt.[/QUOTE]
 

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Again for your stupid ass, white supremacy is about keeping white men at the top of the food chain. I've never claimed that white women have no power or play no role in perpetuating white supremacy. That's just yet another lie that you're telling. I'm simply acknowledging the FACT that this is a white male patriarchal society that's based onthe myth of white male superiority. A select few white men choosing to be black women doesn't threaten that myth for the same reasons that slave masters raping black female slaves didn't threaten slavery. On the flip side though, white women choosing non white men(black men especially) does threaten the myth that white men are superior. What's so difficult to understand?

:mjlol: At this point I think I'm just going to bold and underline the stupid parts of your post because the arguments really destroy themselves, I don't even need to do it anymore than I already have or anymore than you continue to do with your fail logic.

You: White men have all the power in the world! They set up a system of white superiority to keep themselves in power because they are men and white.
Me: True.
You: One way to take down white supremacy is for Black men to sleep with and marry white women!!
Me: :dahell:
You: It doesn't happen in the reverse though, Black women who are with white men are automatically 'wenches' .
Me: :dahell:
You: Who white women ultimately choose is the most important thing, and if they aren't choosing white men but choosing us its a win for our desirability, err--I mean for Black people.
Me: :dahell: But if white men are ultimately in power, how is them choosing to not uphold the system they create and uphold, more helpful than white women choosing to not uphold the system they are ultimately fighting with for equality too?
You: B-b-b-but MYTHS!

The point that I'm making here is based on simple logic and common sense. All you have to do is look at history and the lengths that white men have gone to just to keep white women from black men. I'm not thirsty for white womenin the least, I'm just acknowledging the truth. One of white mens' biggest fears is white women being with black men and this has been clearly illustrated throughout history. A lot of laws were put on the books based on the strength of this very fear. Cocaine was made illegal based on the fear that it was causing black men to go around smashing white women. Prostitution was made illegal based on the fear that black men pimping/trafficking white women. The examples that illustrate the incurable fear that white men have of black men being with white women is endless. There's been no effort to keep black women from white men though. There's never been a time when white men haven't had access(whether by force or choice) to black women and that's because that pairing isn't a threat to the myth that white men are superior.

Now the whole system of white supremacy and stereotypes of Black men were set up by white men to keep white women away from Black men :mjlol: :mjlol: Your desperation for white women is truly disgusting. You think THIS is why you are oppressed? Puh-fukking-thetic. And of course you don't acknowledge the debasing and even more present/currently upheld stereotypes of Black women (which are often parroted by Black men on this very website) caused by the system of white supremacy. Welfare queen, overweight unattractive mammy, jezebel, hypersexual slut, a-sexual masculine-type, angry Black woman...just a few of the stereotypes created by white supremacy to suppress Black women. But nah, white supremacy is only worried about keeping Black men down and away from white women. That's the primary fear.

Go tell white men that who white women choose to be with doesn't any effect on them and their system of supremacy. Tell them to stop going so hard on white women dare go outside of the race since it doesn't mean anything. You're a fukking idiot.

Are you seriously telling me you are dumb enough to think white men's hurt feelings over who dates who is going to topple a system of legal, social, and economic oppression??? You are really, really coming off like an insecure, desperate for validation child here. Your entire understanding of racism literally revolves around who likes who enough to marry them :mindblown:

Black men get the same hurt feelings over Black women dating out. You have even come up with an abusive term that makes light of Black women's rape in slavery to ridicule this particular pairing. Is there some type of system of oppression Black men are seeking to protect thru the show of these hurt feelings? I mean, this is crazy. Common reactions to dating and relationships are a completely separate issue from white supremacy, and EVERY race displays them.

Here you go arguing with/chastising yourself again. I've never worshipped white women. My lady is black and so are our kids. Your anti black male stereotypes and generalizations simply don't fit me.

And my husband is Black too, "you fukking idiot". And he, like many strong Black men who aren't desperate for outside approval and validation for Black men, know how stupid what you are saying is. He would tell you what you're saying doesn't do anything to harm white supremacy and does everything to put the final nail in the coffin of Black solidarity.

But keep parroting stereotypes of Black feminists, our alliances, and what we want to accomplish. Because if you are too simple to even understand what white supremacy is actually about and that it has absolutely nothing to do with who the hell white women choose to lay down with, there is no way you'd ever understand the complex reality of Black women's struggle and the goal of Black feminism.
 
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As far as what you're actually saying yes those white women on the Trayvon jury are racist as are most white women. That doesn't discount my point whatsoever though. I guarantee all of those white women were married to white men. Not only do they not reject white supremacy they perpetuate it. I suspect that if that jury had been composed of white women with black men or other non white men the verdict would've been different. Again, a white woman who with a black man(unless the black man is bonafide wannabe white man Clearance Thomas type c00n)is a direct challenge to white male supremacy. That's my point. Of course white women with white men are racist will perpetuate white male supremacy. We're this deep into the convo ad you still don't have a full understanding of my position. That's embarrassing for you.

No I understand your position hun. Its just really fukking stupid. I'm hoping at this point you are just digging in because you don't want to admit you're wrong publicly. Not that anyone reading doesn't already know you are, but I understand its different for you to say it yourself.

I mean, again, look at the bolded and underlined :mjlol:

On the one hand you admit its white men with all the power, on the other you claim white women can topple the system of white supremacy themselves just by choosing Black men :mjlol: Tell me who really has the power in this dream world you are concocting if this is the case? I mean seriously, just admit its an ego thing and let it go. No one is being fooled by this, not even you.

Also according to you, the verdict wouldn't have been different no way no how if the jurors were all white men married to Black women? Can you explain the well thought out logic as to how white men will surely remain racists if they have a Black partner and white women will magically become Black activists if they have a Black partner?

It weakens the gene pool from the racist white man's perspective. Obviously I don't personally feel that way. I forgot that you have to be spoonfed, my bad. The concept of race is a social construct not a biological. The rules regarding race have already been determined regardless of whether you personally agree or not. You're an idiot who lives in her own alternate universe. You don't get to make up your own rules regarding race and pretend is if it's the standard that our society adheres to. In our society any person who is visibly of African descent is black. Of course black children can be born from non black wombs. What planet are you from? So you're one of these clowns who refuses to acknowledge that Obama is black?

Barack Obama is a biracial man who identifies as Black. Identification is what you are referring to when you talk about a social construct. I can be half Black and identify as white. If I look more Black/ethnic, it doesn't matter what I identify as from a social construct perspective, I will be considered Black by outsiders. But it does not change my genetic makeup. Too, if I'm half Black and identify as Black, I would just be in luck that how I identify and how I look match up. But it however does not change my genetic makeup. I would not be the same as the person with two Black parents, even with society treating me so.

Playing on the idea that a non-Black and a Black can create a Black person is how the racist media is attempting to erase Black women with traditionally Black features from existence in popular media (and of course Black male rappers like Pharrell are helping). Not that you would care about such a Black feminist issue.

You're so broken and insecure that your emotions won't allow you to comprehend what I'm saying. You insist upon misrepresenting what I'm saying in an effort to force me into some anti black man stereotype. It's really useless to continue this because you're too stupid to get it. I can say "I'm against blacks going outside of the race and I don't think that you can be pro black with a non black person" a million times and you'll still come back on this same dumb shyt.

I don't know why you're pretending that I didn't acknowledge that you said that. What we have been talking about and what you know we have been talking about is the garbage you added after it, where you tried to pass off as fact that white women and Black men coupling is one of the corner stones to taking down white supremacy.

And keep in mind, its YOU that's saying who white women choose has an effect on racism. I have been staunch in telling you that reducing white supremacy down to who has sex with who is idiotic. I noticed in one of your paragraphs you tried to pass it off as if I was saying its really who white men choose that has an effect on white supremacy when I do not believe any such thing. I was merely showing that even if your logic were true it would only make sense in the reverse since white men have the power. I do however not hold any belief that white men coupling with Black women can stop white supremacy the way you seriously are fighting to get people to believe white women coupling with Black men can.

In the end, the truth is Every white woman could wake up tomorrow and marry any and every Black man left in this country and white men could up and marry every Asian woman and that would not budge white supremacy even one bit. White men would still be in power and you'd still be just as oppressed. Anyone with a brain knows this. You can look at the income and education level of Black male/White female couples and know this. The only reason you are trying to put a positive spin on Black men marrying white women is because you really like the validation and you believe white women confirm Black men's desirability by choosing them. It has to do with ego and vanity, and nothing to do with hurting white supremacy. That's it, that's all.
 
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At this point I think I'm just going to bold and underline the stupid parts of your post because the arguments really destroy themselves, I don't even need to do it anymore than I already have or anymore than you continue to do with your fail logic.

You: White men have all the power in the world! They set up a system of white superiority to keep themselves in power because they are men and white.
Me: True.
You: One way to take down white supremacy is for Black men to sleep with and marry white women!!
Me:
You: It doesn't happen in the reverse though, Black women who are with white men are automatically 'wenches' .
Me:
You: Who white women ultimately choose is the most important thing, and if they aren't choosing white men but choosing us its a win for our desirability, err--I mean for Black people.
Me: But if white men are ultimately in power, how is them choosing to not uphold the system they create and uphold, more helpful than white women choosing to not uphold the system they are ultimately fighting with for equality too?
You: B-b-b-but MYTHS!
In bold are things that I've never said. You've pulled those things right from your own ass. The rest is your simpleminded interpretation of things that I've said. The only thing that's accurate here is you having a dumbass look on your face because what I'm saying is flying right over your head.

Now the whole system of white supremacy and stereotypes of Black men were set up by white men to keep white women away from Black men Your desperation for white women is truly disgusting. You think THIS is why you are oppressed? Puh-fukking-thetic. And of course you don't acknowledge the debasing and even more present/currently upheld stereotypes of Black women (which are often parroted by Black men on this very website) caused by the system of white supremacy. Welfare queen, overweight unattractive mammy, jezebel, hypersexual slut, a-sexual masculine-type, angry Black woman...just a few of the stereotypes created by white supremacy to suppress Black women. But nah, white supremacy is only worried about keeping Black men down and away from white women. That's the primary fear.
I've repatedly said that I'm against blacks going outside of the race for mates and that you can't be pro black while with a non black person. You're too simple and insecure to grasp the points that I'm making. You constantly making these stupid illogical leaps is proof that you dont comprehend what im saying. I've never denied that whites perpetuate negative stereotypes about black women. That's completely irrelevant to what I'm saying here. It's not about desiring white women or any of that stupid shyt you're talking. I was acknowledging how fearful white men are of black men. That fear is so powerful that it has been used to institute many laws. The point in that section of my post was that you can tell which pairing is more threatening to white men by how differently they respond to them. The fear that white men have of black men and black male sexuality is well documented. White men are much more intolerant of white women being with black men than the other way around and it's because that pairing is more of a threat to their position of power. A white woman who chooses a non white man contradicts the myth that white men are superior. A non white woman choosing to be with white men does not contradict that myth. I don't know what's so hard to understand. It's common sense.

You may be too stupid to understand the threat that white women choosing black and other non white men poses to the white man's position of power, but white men aren't. Why do you think that white men go so hard on white women who go outside of their race especially when it's with a black man?are you not aware that whites have a huge fear of being genetically wiped out?

Are you seriously telling me you are dumb enough to think white men's hurt feelings over who dates who is going to topple a system of legal, social, and economic oppression??? You are really, really coming off like an insecure, desperate for validation child here. Your entire understanding of racism literally revolves around who likes who enough to marry them
Yes, I'm telling you that if white women started choosing non white men in significant numbers that would damage and eventually topple the white male system of supremacy. This is why white men are so controlling of white women and why there's so much backlash for white women who go outside of their race especially when it's with a black man. White supremacy doesn't maintain itself it's maintained by the people in our society. Wm have to keep everybody else buying into the myth that they're superior otherwise their system will end. Wm get it even if dumb motherfukkers like you don't.

Black men get the same hurt feelings over Black women dating out. You have even come up with an abusive term that makes light of Black women's rape in slavery to ridicule this particular pairing. Is there some type of system of oppression Black men are seeking to protect thru the show of these hurt feelings? I mean, this is crazy. Common reactions to dating and relationships are a completely separate issue from white supremacy, and EVERY race displays them.
This is so dishonest and blatantly inaccurate that you should be ashamed. Black men didn't create the term "bed wench" and there is no equating black men with white men regarding being opposed to IR mixing. Despite the fact that white men have had unlimited access to black women for centuries(by choice or force), when have black men ran around lynching white men? When have black men instituted laws to prohibit IR mixing? When have black men burned down entire white communities? The things that white men have done to prevent their women from being with other races of men constitutes more than just "hurt feelings". The backlash that white women face for going outside of their race from white men is much more severe than any backlash a black woman will face from black men in our community. There's absolutely no comparison.

As far as the term "bed wench". Language is fluid and these days it's used to describe black women who wish to sell out herself and her community to get down with white men and their system of supremacy. There's no denying that there are black women out here like that the same way that they're black men who will do the same and terms like "c00n, house ******, ect" all apply to them. The fake outrage that black feminists have over that term is just a smoke screen meant to deflect from the actual "bed wench" behavior.

And my husband is Black too, "you fukking idiot". And he, like many strong Black men who aren't desperate for outside approval and validation for Black men, know how stupid what you are saying is. He would tell you what you're saying doesn't do anything to harm white supremacy and does everything to put the final nail in the coffin of Black solidarity.
You're clearly a man-less bitter scorned hurt chic. Thats why this response was posted around 2am. I suspect that you've been left for a white woman before.

But keep parroting stereotypes of Black feminists, our alliances, and what we want to accomplish. Because if you are too simple to even understand what white supremacy is actually about and that it has absolutely nothing to do with who the hell white women choose to lay down with, there is no way you'd ever understand the complex reality of Black women's struggle and the goal of Black feminism.
You fit every stereotype that there is about black feminists voluntarily. You can smell that black feminist bullshyt on you from a mile away. I understand exactly what white supremacy is and is all about, you don't. White genes are recessive and if you don't know what that means and how IR mixing effects the white man's position of power then that's simply too bad for you. I've broken it down as simpy I can. How can you understand white supremacy if you don't even listen to white supremacists? The biggest fear that whites have of other races(especially blacks) is regarding interracial mixing and the white race being wiped out. Where the fukk have you been?
 

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No I understand your position hun. Its just really fukking stupid. I'm hoping at this point you are just digging in because you don't want to admit you're wrong publicly. Not that anyone reading doesn't already know you are, but I understand its different for you to say it yourself.

I mean, again, look at the bolded and underlined :mjlol:

On the one hand you admit its white men with all the power, on the other you claim white women can topple the system of white supremacy themselves just by choosing Black men :mjlol: Tell me who really has the power in this dream world you are concocting if this is the case? I mean seriously, just admit its an ego thing and let it go. No one is being fooled by this, not even you.

Also according to you, the verdict wouldn't have been different no way no how if the jurors were all white men married to Black women? Can you explain the well thought out logic as to how white men will surely remain racists if they have a Black partner and white women will magically become Black activists if they have a Black partner?
You're trying waaay too hard. All the smileys and other dramatics you're posting is not saving you from this mental ass whipping. You clearly don't have the mental capacity or self esteem to understand what I'm saying. Your obsession with thinking that all black men desire white women has you completely fukked up. Yes white men have the power in this society but only because other people in this society give it to them. That power can be taken away which is why white men have gone to great measures to prevent this from happening. Get off of that simple shyt and try to think like someone with an IQ above 80. Yes white women choosing black men contradicts the myth of white male supremacy and if they did it in significant numbers it would end the system of white supremacy. I can't help if you're too stupid to understand that.

I never spoke on a hypothetical Zimmerman jury made up of white men maried to black women. So what you said is not according to me it's according to your dumbass. Would the verdict have been different if the jury was made up of white men married to black women? Possibly. History doesn't support that opinion though because for centuries we've seen that the white men's desire for black women doesn't override his racism nor does it negate him from
Instituting a system of supremacy that oppresses all non white men. White men's love/lust of black women didn't stop them from being slave maters did it?

Men and women are different. Women usually take on(submit to at the least) the ideology of the man that they've decided to be with, not the other way around. This being a white male patriarchal society that has white men at the top of the totem pole in the dominant position of power, that's most certainly the case for wm-bw pairings. A white man is certainly not going to marry a black woman who is actively fighting to end his system of supremacy. White men looking for a black woman is going to choose one who's down with perpetuating the status quo, not one who's really trying to change it. On the flip, a white woman who chooses to marry a black man is directly rejecting the status quo and myth that white men are superior. That's not to say that white women with black men can't be racist themselves, but it's a lot less likely.


Barack Obama is a biracial man who identifies as Black. Identification is what you are referring to when you talk about a social construct. I can be half Black and identify as white. If I look more Black/ethnic, it doesn't matter what I identify as from a social construct perspective, I will be considered Black by outsiders. But it does not change my genetic makeup. Too, if I'm half Black and identify as Black, I would just be in luck that how I identify and how I look match up. But it however does not change my genetic makeup. I would not be the same as the person with two Black parents, even with society treating me so.
This is proof that race is another concept that you don't get. Biology nor genetics have anything to do with race. Race is a social contruct that is based on phenotypical characteristics not genetics or biology. There are plenty of "black" people who are biracial. You're probably biracial meaning you have more than one race in your family tree. You can't be "half-black" and considered white. You can have some African ancestry and pass as white if the African ancestry is not visible in your phenotypical appearance, but that's a different story. The rules regarding race in this society say that if you have any black ancestry then you're black. Obama indentifies himself as a black man because he has no choice. If he ran around tryin to indentify as white he'd look about as stupid as you do here.

Playing on the idea that a non-Black and a Black can create a Black person is how the racist media is attempting to erase Black women with traditionally Black features from existence in popular media (and of course Black male rappers like Pharrell are helping). Not that you would care about such a Black feminist issue.
The one drop rule is not something new that the media just made up recently. It's basically the foundation of our society. If you have black ancestry then you're black, period. We need to embrace that instead of trying to run from it exause there is no escape. As far as colorism, you and these other black feminists don't really give a fukk about it you just use it as an excuse to exercise your black man hate. If you all truly cared about colorism then you wouldn't limit your criticism to just black men. Why do black feminists never call out other black women for perpetuating colorism? There are plenty of black women who hold positions of power in these media outlets that perpetuate colorism and all kinds of other negative stereotypes about black women but you'll never hear black feminists like you call them out. Whether you're talking about radio, tv, magazines, or the net/social black women are directly responsible for proliferating negative images and stereotypes of themselves yet you'll never hold yourselves or each other accountable.

I don't know why you're pretending that I didn't acknowledge that you said that. What we have been talking about and what you know we have been talking about is the garbage you added after it, where you tried to pass off as fact that white women and Black men coupling is one of the corner stones to taking down white supremacy.
You aren't acknowledging what I'm saying because you're accusing me of doing the opposite. Accusing me of desiring white women or needing validation from them is ignoring what I'm saying. I didn't say that bm-ww pairings are the corner stone to taking down white supremacy. I said that ww choosing non white men is a threat to white supremacy because it goes against the status quo. The reason that white men go so hard on white women who do go outside of the race is because they inderstand this. Again, it's not my fault that you're too stupid to understand what I'm saying regardless of how much I dumb it down.

And keep in mind, its YOU that's saying who white women choose has an effect on racism. I have been staunch in telling you that reducing white supremacy down to who has sex with who is idiotic. I noticed in one of your paragraphs you tried to pass it off as if I was saying its really who white men choose that has an effect on white supremacy when I do not believe any such thing. I was merely showing that even if your logic were true it would only make sense in the reverse since white men have the power. I do however not hold any belief that white men coupling with Black women can stop white supremacy the way you seriously are fighting to get people to believe white women coupling with Black men can.
You simply don't possess the intellect to get it. Of course IR mixing has an effect on white supremacy. It's a numbers game. Whites are currently the majority. If white women started choosing non white men in significant numbers not only would that threaten white people's position as the majority in this society it would also contradict the myth of white male supremacy. This is why white men have gone to great lengths to prevent this from happening. White men have instituted a system of racism that oppresses other races so that they can maintain control/power. If there was no system of white supremacy and the playing field was even they'd be a lot more IR mixing involving whites which would obviously reduce their numbers. It's not really complicated. White racism is all about white people being fearful that people of other races will wipe them out genetically. That is the motivation behind it all. Wm-bw couples don't pose the same threat because wm are in complete control of those pairings. White men are never going to choose black women in significant numbers because of racial politics an the wm who do choose bw are only going to chose those who perpetuate the status quo.
 

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Yes, I'm telling you that if white women started choosing non white men in significant numbers that would damage and eventually topple the white male system of supremacy. This is why white men are so controlling of white women and why there's so much backlash for white women who go outside of their race especially when it's with a black man. White supremacy doesn't maintain itself it's maintained by the people in our society. Wm have to keep everybody else buying into the myth that they're superior otherwise their system will end. Wm get it even if dumb motherfukkers like you don't.

The stupidity :snoop:

White women are choosing non-white men in greater number than ever before around the world. That includes Black men. The racist white man who owns the Clippers organization saw and treated his Black male employees like slaves. How come white women choosing all those Black basketball players who lap after them like animals did not topple his myth of superiority? He viewed his Black tenants like dogs, and I'm sure he's around a great number of the wealthy Black men who white women choose to make partners--including the coach of his team--how come this did not influence his racist thoughts? Because according to you, white supremacy is clearly all founded in white male hurt feelings, so why didn't his hurt feelings crush him into believing Black men are equal to him?

The reality: You have absolutely zero concept of what white supremacy is, and you should be ashamed of the fact that you have carried on this long acting as if you do.

This is so dishonest and blatantly inaccurate that you should be ashamed. Black men didn't create the term "bed wench" and there is no equating black men with white men regarding being opposed to IR mixing. Despite the fact that white men have had unlimited access to black women for centuries(by choice or force), when have black men ran around lynching white men? When have black men instituted laws to prohibit IR mixing? When have black men burned down entire white communities? The things that white men have done to prevent their women from being with other races of men constitutes more than just "hurt feelings". The backlash that white women face for going outside of their race from white men is much more severe than any backlash a black woman will face from black men in our community. There's absolutely no comparison.

And yet in this day in age, with no lynchings as a threat, and IR mixing happening freely between white women and Black men, you can still find a Black child shot dead in the street and face no punishment. You can still find harsher punishments for the same crime of Black offenders than white, and you can still find whites having the majority of the wealth with Blacks having the least, and Blacks still having the least employment prospects even when they are just as qualified as other candidates, and on and on and on. Isn't that strange? Everything is just the same as it was when lynchings were prevalent and white women and Black men didn't mix as they are now when they do :leon:.

What a shame your brilliant plan to sex the white supremacy out of white women isn't working :russ:

As far as the term "bed wench". Language is fluid and these days it's used to describe black women who wish to sell out herself and her community to get down with white men and their system of supremacy. There's no denying that there are black women out here like that the same way that they're black men who will do the same and terms like "c00n, house ******, ect" all apply to them. The fake outrage that black feminists have over that term is just a smoke screen meant to deflect from the actual "bed wench" behavior.

Yes, because I'm sure if Black women started calling Black men southern tree decorations, recalling on the horrors of Black men being lynched just because we had hurt feelings over them dating IR, it would go over so well with you. You'd just consider us calling out the behavior, like you do when you call Black women bed wenches and draw on our historical rape, right?

Like I said, you are pro-Black male and absolutely anti-Black female. The only time anyone would ever catch you or any other of the rest of you fake coli militants saying anything positive about Black women it would only be because you believe it edifies Black men in the process. Otherwise, you'd like to see us subdued as much as humanly possible, and I'm glad Black Feminism exists so that we will NEVER allow you boot licking, white skin worshipping sambos to let it happen. Go find your white women to mate with so that you can do your job to "topple white supremacy" and seethe on that fact.

You're clearly a man-less bitter scorned hurt chic. Thats why this response was posted around 2am. I suspect that you've been left for a white woman before.

Lol I am neither bitter nor manless or lonely, and nothing I've said could be construed as such.

After all, I'm not the one online making logical leap after logical leap to suggest that someone of the opposite sex of a different race liking me and my kind would equal freedom. You're pathetic. :mjlol:

If anyone is hurting for attention from the opposite sex its clearly you, and you know this. Never in my life have I seen someone so desperate for validation that they'd make the retarded claim that they can uplift their race by marrying and procreating with another one :wtf:
 
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You're trying waaay too hard. All the smileys and other dramatics you're posting is not saving you from this mental ass whipping. You clearly don't have the mental capacity or self esteem to understand what I'm saying. Your obsession with thinking that all black men desire white women has you completely fukked up. Yes white men have the power in this society but only because other people in this society give it to them. That power can be taken away which is why white men have gone to great measures to prevent this from happening. Get off of that simple shyt and try to think like someone with an IQ above 80. Yes white women choosing black men contradicts the myth of white male supremacy and if they did it in significant numbers it would end the system of white supremacy. I can't help if you're too stupid to understand that.

Again, more stupidity :russ:

Let me try to shut down this truly, truly retarded theory that who marries who is the key to racial superiority with one very simple and factual example, because I can't even be bothered to continue wasting my time reading and replying to someone who is as ignorant to white supremacy as you are so boastful to be:

It is well known that Asian women chase after white men routinely. They in fact have the highest IR pairing of all. Despite this, it is well known that economically its China and other Asian countries that display the most room for growth and that hasn't slowed down, even in spite of who Asian women are marrying. They are "confirming" white superiority according to you more and more everyday, yet Europe and America, where white men dominate, are on the decline and the country/men that they are rejecting, are on the rise. How can this be, under your simple minded logic that the key to supremacy is who women choose to date and marry? If Asian women are choosing to date and marry White men over their own men, and its doing nothing to hurt the economic and political viability of Asian men, how are you dumb enough to believe this is the key to success for Blacks who have even less economic advantages and political/trade clout?

White men's love/lust of black women didn't stop them from being slave maters did it?

And did white women's so called love/lust for Black men stop them from having them hanged and their loins severed whenever they felt like it?

Let me guess, you are going to pretend that's not what precious white women really wanted, and white men did it all by themselves?

You're either really dense or really, REALLY hard up for white women. The fact that you even said this without consider the obvious flip side to it goes to show how brainwashed you are when it comes to white women.

Men and women are different. Women usually take on(submit to at the least) the ideology of the man that they've decided to be with, not the other way around. This being a white male patriarchal society that has white men at the top of the totem pole in the dominant position of power, that's most certainly the case for wm-bw pairings. A white man is certainly not going to marry a black woman who is actively fighting to end his system of supremacy. White men looking for a black woman is going to choose one who's down with perpetuating the status quo, not one who's really trying to change it. On the flip, a white woman who chooses to marry a black man is directly rejecting the status quo and myth that white men are superior. That's not to say that white women with black men can't be racist themselves, but it's a lot less likely.

There's a thread on this very website with a white women who is with a Black man and presumably only deals with Black men defending the opinion of a clear and open racist. And how many celebrity Black men have come out to say their non-Black wives harbored anti-Black sentiment once those marriages broke down? To say that its less likely that white women be racist just because they aren't white men...I mean my God. You are truly deluded in your caping for white women, this is sad. Try loving yourself and your own for once, and you won't come off nearly as pathetically as you have in this argument.

And btw, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, in a two parent household, it is the mother who spends the most time with the child and the mother who's values are often passed on more so than the father. Nominal influence is not the same as actual day to day influence sorry. The most powerful white ethnic group in America (the Jews) define themselves solely by whether or not the matriarch is a Jew for this very reason.

This is proof that race is another concept that you don't get. Biology nor genetics have anything to do with race. Race is a social contruct that is based on phenotypical characteristics not genetics or biology. There are plenty of "black" people who are biracial. You're probably biracial meaning you have more than one race in your family tree. You can't be "half-black" and considered white. You can have some African ancestry and pass as white if the African ancestry is not visible in your phenotypical appearance, but that's a different story. The rules regarding race in this society say that if you have any black ancestry then you're black. Obama indentifies himself as a black man because he has no choice. If he ran around tryin to indentify as white he'd look about as stupid as you do here.

So now you're basically saying the exact same thing I said in my post above but trying to pass it off as if your small brain could have ever come up with it yourself? Cool. You're one step closer to admitting your "marrying white women = saving the Black race from white supremacy" agenda is retarded too.

The one drop rule is not something new that the media just made up recently. It's basically the foundation of our society. If you have black ancestry then you're black, period. We need to embrace that instead of trying to run from it exause there is no escape. As far as colorism, you and these other black feminists don't really give a fukk about it you just use it as an excuse to exercise your black man hate. If you all truly cared about colorism then you wouldn't limit your criticism to just black men. Why do black feminists never call out other black women for perpetuating colorism? There are plenty of black women who hold positions of power in these media outlets that perpetuate colorism and all kinds of other negative stereotypes about black women but you'll never hear black feminists like you call them out. Whether you're talking about radio, tv, magazines, or the net/social black women are directly responsible for proliferating negative images and stereotypes of themselves yet you'll never hold yourselves or each other accountable.

You honestly could not be dumber, this is almost upsetting.

Black feminists call out all forms of colorism, including those perpetuated by Black women themselves when they talk about preferring darker skin Black men because they are "more masculine". Some Black women try to pass this off as being more pro-Black and I call them out all the time because it is actually very harmful thinking and just as bad as Black men thinking the reverse (that lighter skin is more feminine).

The fact of the matter is, Black women do not control or own as many radio, tv, magazines or industries as Black men do (even though both are in too small a number). At any entertainment and media facility you will find far more Black men at the top than Black women because of sexism. So you cannot cast that blame onto Black women when we have less influence still.

Not to mention, distribution and content creation are two different things. Black women have been damn near erased from hip hop since savagery and misogyny overtook the genre, and there are far more Black male producers and directors with clout than the reverse. And it is THEM who are making the creative decisions to exclude darker skin Black women and to okay calling all women bytches and hoes before it even gets to the point where it can be distributed by the studios/radios where Black men STILL have more of a say so than Black women do.

Your attempts to shift blame onto Black women again rather than holding those who are accountable, accountable, fails.
 
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You aren't acknowledging what I'm saying because you're accusing me of doing the opposite. Accusing me of desiring white women or needing validation from them is ignoring what I'm saying. I didn't say that bm-ww pairings are the corner stone to taking down white supremacy.

So now you're going to tell blatant lies??? :why: I can't...

Here's what you JUST said in your previous post DIRECTLY above this one:

Yes, I'm telling you that if white women started choosing non white men in significant numbers that would damage and eventually topple the white male system of supremacy.

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White men have instituted a system of racism that oppresses other races so that they can maintain control/power. If there was no system of white supremacy and the playing field was even they'd be a lot more IR mixing involving whites which would obviously reduce their numbers. It's not really complicated.

:dead: You're not this stupid. Tell me you aren't. White men could personally walk you down the aisle with all of their mothers, daughters, nieces, and white female cousins and they'd still keep all the power and wealth to themselves. You are proving to be an absolute idiot to believe differently.

Not to mention, numbers don't even have anything to do with anything. Unless you are stupid enough to believe Black people can only be found in America, and that all are as obsessed with whiteness as you and your type of "black male militant". We (by which I mean Black people, I'm starting to doubt your race tbh) are already on the path to outnumbering them if we don't already. And that's just Black people, whites are already a minority if you're talking about non-whites, yet still things are the way they are. On top of that, literally 1% (I would argue even less) have all the political power and money in this country. That just goes to show you you don't need to be the majority to run shyt in the first place.

You really need to stop. You lost this debate a long time ago because you foolishly tried to make a system of economic, political, and social oppression into an issue of dating and marriage.
 
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