Alexandria Ocasio Cortez says she is an "Descendant of African Slaves"...as well as other things

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both my parents are black :heh:

My dad just isn't american

The point i'm making is you cannot define being AA by genetic percentages. Creoles are AA for example and are heavily admixed. Mulatto are AA's and have been involved in our story since the beginning.
Be logical about what ethnicity actually is by definition.

Also 30% isnt a big difference from 40

Like I said if you not 100 west African with american slave roots you gonna be on that review board with me

I fall into that admixture range too but you guys are silly in how you're trying to define an entire ethnicity of people based on your biased personal ideas

all you people with non AA ancestors are in the same bout as me by your logic :manny:

If you don't got the dna admixture of Oprah Winfrey I dont wanna hear shyt from you :umad:

Again, you didn't answer the question.

You keep missing the point. There has to be a line drawn. You wanna include everyone which basically amounts to no real benefit for anyone. But you don't seem to really care.

Folks like you are the reason I don't think cash payments are a good idea. I would not care if I didn't get a dime if programs were in place to help actually AA. That is the difference between you and I. You're more concerned with a label than actual progress.

And no I won't need review because I can track my lineage and all my relative for the past 4 generations are AA.

You do make a good point though which is why we can defer to @LovelyOne idea which would solve the issues you have with my proposal though it would still exclude you. :manny:
 
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Again, you didn't answer the question.

You keep missing the point. There has to be a line drawn. You wanna include everyone which basically amounts to no real benefit for anyone. But you don't seem to really care.

Folks like you are the reason I don't think cash payments are a good idea. I would not care if I didn't get a dime if programs were in place to help actually AA. That is the difference between you and I. You're more concerned with a label than actual progress.
You never asked a question :dahell:

Include everybody? If you are descended from american slavery you are entitled to benefits :dahell:

Stop moving the goal posts and creating straw mans

I didn't even share my views on reparations at all or what I personally should be our PoA. You saying people like me when I haven't even shared my PoV

Also I don't agree with cash payments. Wealth is created by programs and laws. We need to be grandfathered into systematic wealth. Giving every nikka in chicago 100k won't fix shyt for black people. It has never been about money for me because I understand money is pointless if you aren't included in the laws that create and maintain wealth. We need subsidized housing, AA aimed business loans, free education, healthcare, land grants and etc. Things that have tangible benefits to our people. A cash check would be gone in 3 months time, we need to be rehabilitated and revitalized by legislation.
 

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You never asked a question :dahell:

Include everybody? If you are descended from american slavery you are entitled to benefits :dahell:

Stop moving the goal posts and creating straw mans

I didn't even share my views on reparations at all or what I personally should be our PoA. You saying people like me when I haven't even shared my PoV

Also I don't agree with cash payments. Wealth is created by programs and laws. We need to be grandfathered into systematic wealth. Giving every nikka in chicago 100k won't fix shyt for black people. It has never been about money for me because I understand money is pointless if you aren't included in the laws that create and maintain wealth. We need subsidized housing, AA aimed business loans, free education, healthcare, land grants and etc. Things that have tangible benefits to our people. A cash check would be gone in 3 months time, we need to be rehabilitated and revitalized by legislation.

I did ask a question. You just ignored it. Second/third sentence in the second response.

And you moved the goal post. The discussion is and always has been AADOS not everyone who descended from slaves. I want AA to actually benefit from it and am absolutely willing to have strict guildlines to maximize the benefit which would meaning excluding some folks. I guess that is what you're missing or really doesn't matter to you. NA have strict guidelines and we should as well.

As far as yours views on reparations, I wasn't trying to discuss them with you. Just pointing out how folks would take a watered down piece of the pie even if that means the benefits to the community would be very little or none at all. That 40mil would increase significantly, probably double, if we go by your rules meaning less and less benefit for the actual community.

Also I edited my post to include the following:

"You do make a good point though which is why we can defer to @LovelyOne idea which would solve the issues you have with my proposal though it would still exclude you."

Anyway we can agree to disagree breh. You want everyone to have some and I don't. That is what it comes down to. There are people in my family who would not be included and that is fine with me. I am more concerned with the community than individuals.

I have to get up early. Enjoyed the discussion. GN
 

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I did ask a question. You just ignored it. Second/third sentence in the second response.

And you moved the goal post. The discussion is and always has been AADOS not everyone who descended from slaves. I want AA to actually benefit from it and am absolutely willing to have strict guildlines to maximize the benefit which would meaning excluding some folks. I guess that is what you're missing or really doesn't matter to you. NA have strict guidelines and we should as well.

As far as yours views on reparations, I wasn't trying to discuss them with you. Just pointing out how folks would take a watered down piece of the pie even if that means the benefits to the community would be very little or none at all. That 40mil would increase significantly, probably double, if we go by your rules meaning less and less benefit for the actual community.

Also I edited my post to include the following:

"You do make a good point though which is why we can defer to @LovelyOne idea which would solve the issues you have with my proposal though it would still exclude you."

Anyway we can agree to disagree breh. You want everyone to have some and I don't. That is what it comes down to. There are people in my family who would not be included and that is fine with me. I am more concerned with the community than individuals.

I have to get up early. Enjoyed the discussion. GN
All this double talk :heh:
 

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:manny: To be fair the African american ethnic group isn't defined by DNA

You yourself are 40% non AA. I guarantee I have more black blood than you.

If that's the case a lot of black people gonna be looking funny in the light cause most of us AA's are heavily admixed

You gonna be on that review board with me if you not 100% genetically west African with roots solely in north american slavery :manny:
Most AfrAm are 20-30 European at best.
All this heavily admixtures shyt is a fallacy.
If your ancestors are AA on both sides they just aren’t.
If you have a Black parent or non black parent that isn’t AfrAm then you’re only half.
This is about LINAGE and culture.
 

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And this is why AADOS needs to be defined by 2 AADOS parents & 2 sets of AADOS grandparents. This is a clear set up. This is ridiculous.

So you mean to tell me someone with 4 black grandparents is different than someone with one or 2 black grandparents? :troll:
 

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This us not rocket science. Being descended from slaves is not enough. When or if reparations happen, you need to be over a certain threshold DNA wise to be included and you need to be ADOS. If you from the islands or Africa, you’re not included. You need to take your grievances up with your country of origin as your ancestors were enslaved in a different country than ours. Back to the first point. Native American tribes don’t give a fukk if you had an NA relative 11 generations ago. You ain’t Native American at that point. Elizabeth Warren ass nikkas. Be upset with your ancestors for fukking your blackness away.
in terms of dna what is the % you would consider?
 

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Ironically tho... This video is of her shytting on Elizabeth Warren for cultural appropriation regarding natives.... So I guess the OP disagrees with her and feels that people who are actually not apart of a race can lay claim to whatever race they choose :manny:Interesting
 

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Someone pull up this lady’s ancrestry.

Lots of time these Rican’s claim their all these mixes and reality they have a couple of slave owning 3rd grandparents,
 

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Its a contract, the debt is owed to all descendants of American slavery, whether you're biracial, married to a white person, ect is irrelevant .
No troll but would that include Malia and Sasha Obama? Their maternal family is ADOS but their paternal is Kenyan and white. What about say a Ghanaian breh who came to America in the 70s, married a ADOS, had children, and now their children have children.
 

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No troll but would that include Malia and Sasha Obama? Their maternal family is ADOS but their paternal is Kenyan and white. What about say a Ghanaian breh who came to America in the 70s, married a ADOS, had children, and now their children have children.
The way I see it America has a contractual obligation to us. A contract claim is no different than a house. Its property, and just like any another intrest you leave to your children and their children. When Mama dies all her kids, including her step kids and your half siblings will have a legitimate claim to her house, who theyre married to is irrelevant.
 
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