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Looked through the whole thread and that Jen Kirkman chick is retarded.
and the worse part is, cortez just stated the facts. she didnt say dont investigate. she said "if you spend more time talking about trump and russia than these actual household issues."
she is 1000% correct. you can do both at the same time. do all of the investigating you need to do. but you better be talking about real life people problems that you can help solve. cause truth is, odds are this idiot is going to be president for the full 4 year term. so whatever you can do on your end to help the american people live a better life. concentrate on that and talk about that. while also in the background running the idiot and criminal thru any investigation necessary. but do not make your entire playbook an I hate trump and thats all i know... playbook.
 

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I hate neoliberals, but this isn't wrong.

The two parties were extremely close up through the Clinton era.

Newt Gingrich set of a partisan divide when he took control of Congress, that divide widened in stupidity during the Bush administration, the Tea Party reaction to Obama made it twice as bad, and then Trump sent it over the cliff.
 

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Just realize a few things brehs:
  • She's not AA
  • She's in Congress so she'll have to compromise eventually
  • She's a noob so she's gonna make mistakes, especially optics
  • Don't expect her to be the one to carry our cross
  • She wants to abolish ICE

Otherwise, I'll support her movement because it currently aligns (most of it) with what I want.

Wanting to abolish ICE is a bad thing? :dahell:

You do realize that ICE is some Bush-era extrajudicial Patriot Act shyt, right? It didn't even exist until 12 years ago. Why the hell you caping for it? :wtf:\

Even ICE agents are calling to disband ICE. :heh:

Everything else you say is fair. :yeshrug:
 

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dont block, just neg him on site like i do

Nah, because he'll say something dumb, I'll feel compelled to correct him, he'll double down, blah blah blah.

Better to just not even have to think about him. Live longer that way. I got too much real shyt to worry about to waste thought space on someone like that.
 

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Wanting to abolish ICE is a bad thing? :dahell:

You do realize that ICE is some Bush-era extrajudicial Patriot Act shyt, right? It didn't even exist until 12 years ago. Why the hell you caping for it? :wtf:\

Even ICE agents are calling to disband ICE. :heh:

Abolishing ICE is different than repeal and replacing ICE.

That's my only issue. I'd prefer the latter. Or at least show a bill showing that's what she intends to do.

Everything else you say is fair. :yeshrug:

I like her as a politician. I just don't like the idea of an open-border policy floating around.
 

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I hate neoliberals, but this isn't wrong.

The two parties were extremely close up through the Clinton era.

Newt Gingrich set of a partisan divide when he took control of Congress, that divide widened in stupidity during the Bush administration, the Tea Party reaction to Obama made it twice as bad, and then Trump sent it over the cliff.


of course this isn't true. It use to be that most dems and repubs differed on certain issues but all moved towards central. Now you have 4 or 5 parties. Moderate Dems, Progressive/Extremeist Dems, Moderate Repubc, Ultra Conservatives, and Crazy right wing nationalists.
 

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Abolishing ICE is different than repeal and replacing ICE.

That's my only issue. I'd prefer the latter. Or at least show a bill showing that's what she intends to do.



I like her as a politician. I just don't like the idea of an open-border policy floating around.


I agree with your ICE statement, I don't even understand why any Black Americans would be for abolishing ICE. If it needs to change some of it's practices that fine but ICE wouldn't be necessary if people followed the laws of entering the US. This is like standing in teh line for the new gaming system and some ass hole jumps the line and everyone in the back is like okay wtf, then the dude lets 20 other people cut in front of him. Then the attendent says we only have 25 systems left. WTF....why should people in the line be pushed back for following the laws/rules? You need an enforcement agency otherwise just open the borders and let everyone in and suffer any consequences.

now where i probably don't agree with you, is all the promises of free stuff. It's bullshyt. There's a huge difference in spending money on defense (which employees citizens and gives them free education) vs spending money on free college. College is something you earn, through free education k-12. If you don't earn the right then you either pay the premium or you figure out another route.

I get that she's the new shiny toy in the room, but her and other Bernie Progressive views are naive and would hurt America long time. Just my 2 cents. But I also understand why certain people (minorities) are for them at the same token there needs ot be more personal responsibility injected in households and communities.
 

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College is something you earn, through free education k-12. If you don't earn the right then you either pay the premium or you figure out another route.

Scholarships are not guaranteed. Even those are limited. So you don't earn the right. More like you're privileged to go there for a discount.

now where i probably don't agree with you, is all the promises of free stuff. It's bullshyt. There's a huge difference in spending money on defense (which employees citizens and gives them free education) vs spending money on free college.

None of it is free. It's just a shift of investments. Even with free college and free healthcare, you're saving money on healthcare and cost to businesses. Also a more educated population means more skilled workers. Therefore more opportunities to employ from within and not through immigration.

The free stuff narrative just doesn't hold up.
 
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