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You can't let em see your tricks all the time. Just like Obama.
I agree, Obama really played his shyt perfectly. Yes, he may have squandered the potential for substantial change by selling out his base due to an idiotic, outdated belief in "bipartisanship", leading to him having very little in the way of long-lasting legislative or political impact, but he really didn't let the Republicans see his tricks. Having his shytty plans continually slapped down and tossed in the garbage by Republicans was all part of wily Obama's secret plan, which will be activated any time now. Just wait on it. Perfect politician if you ask me. If AOC is lucky, she too can retire with the country in a woeful state of utter chaos and then fukk off to Necker Island with Richard Branson, inking $60M+ deals with Random House Publishing and Netflix.

Say what you want about Obama, he didn't let the Republicans see his tricks.
 

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I agree, Obama really played his shyt perfectly. Yes, he may have squandered the potential for substantial change by selling out his base due to an idiotic, outdated belief in "bipartisanship", leading to him having very little in the way of long-lasting legislative or political impact, but he really didn't let the Republicans see his tricks. Having his shytty plans continually slapped down and tossed in the garbage by Republicans was all part of wily Obama's secret plan, which will be activated any time now. Just wait on it. Perfect politician if you ask me. If AOC is lucky, she too can retire with the country in a woeful state of utter chaos and then fukk off to Necker Island with Richard Branson, inking $60M+ deals with Random House Publishing and Netflix.

Say what you want about Obama, he didn't let the Republicans see his tricks.
not having a legislative majority for 75% of his term didn't help either you waste of semen

You really don't understand the "other side" do you?

You can't even fathom how dirty and foul republicans can be.

Thats why your idealistic utopia bubble never is faced with the reality of how to get shyt done or how to plan, plot, or execute.
 
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that's not it, I totally get what she's saying.

I dont' believe that's the direction America needs to go in yet. I don't believe it's successful and I don't believe in a welfare state where everything is "free" or rather the expectation is for others to pay to the well-being of others beyond a certain point.

K-12 is free
defense is free
we have a welfare safety net
there's other socialist programs for elderly and disabled

able body adults should not be taken care of, period, and we can't afford it. I rather pull America out of the debt spending position before taxes are used to pay for one more damn thing (other than african american reparations).

investing in education will help us in longrun. We aren't just investing without reallocating funds.:russ: We taking money out of ICE, and useless government projects, trips, hell I'm ready for Congress to take a pay cut. Do you know how many useless stuff we invest in without even trying to fukk with education.We got the money, don't worry.
 

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See, I laugh at her responses....but she gotta slow down :francis:

You can't let em see your tricks all the time. Just like Obama.

Cause once again, some vote is going to come up AND she will look dumb as hell and lack any of these responses.

Obama used his humor to remind people he still had it. AOC's humor will be used against her.

I just want her to SLOW IT DOWN.
Hmmm . . . so you're saying communicating the same message over and over can make it lose its strength? :jbhmm:
 

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not having a legislative majority for 75% of his term didn't help either you waste of semen

You really don't understand the "other side" do you?

You can't even fathom how dirty and foul republicans can be.

Thats why your idealistic utopia bubble never is faced with the reality of how to get shyt done or how to plan, plot, or execute.
Ok so if you're admitting that he was bested by his Republican opponents, what exactly were these tricks he had up his sleeve? Republicans are dirty and foul and got their job done. The fukk did Barack do? The fukk did he plan, plot or execute?

And you're over here reminiscing about his fukking humour? He may have failed to stop the nation's slide into fascism, but boy he had a humdinger of a knock knock joke!

Bro shut up. Let AOC and progressives handle shyt from here. Your side clearly ain't equipped for this fight.
 

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Ok so if you're admitting that he was bested by his Republican opponents, what exactly were these tricks he had up his sleeve? Republicans are dirty and foul and got their job done. The fukk did Barack do? The fukk did he plan, plot or execute?

And you're over here reminiscing about his fukking humour? He may have failed to stop the nation's slide into fascism, but boy he had a humdinger of a knock knock joke!

Bro shut up. Let AOC and progressives handle shyt from here. Your side clearly ain't equipped for this fight.
nikka are you stupid?

I was talking about her JOKES you fukking moron

nikka stay focused if you're going to troll me.

fukking idiot.
 

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nikka are you stupid?

I was talking about her JOKES you fukking moron

nikka stay focused if you're going to troll me.

fukking idiot.
Obama used his humor to remind people he still had it. AOC's humor will be used against her.
:coffee: Play your position, small soldier.

You were trying to draw a distinction between AOC's messaging and communication strategy, which you say is bad because dumbass conservative freaks keep trying and failing to own her, and Obama's strategy, which you say was good because "he used it to remind people he still had it". :mjlol:

I, for one, am real glad Obama was able to crack a few jokes while Republicans rubbed their nuts all over his plans and Democrats slipped into their weakest condition in 100 years. Really reminded me that he had "it". :mjlol:

Bro, just shut up, damn.
 

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Still doesn't realize that no matter what she does these conservative haters will find something to latch on to. Obama wasn't above this either and they still latch on to him misspeaking about 57 states like they think a Harvard educated guy doesn't know there are 50 states.

When will you realize that instead of constantly OCDing about every movement you make, the people who matter will not care and will like you more when you authentically clap back and speak your mind?

I blame an overconsumption of news media. It's put you in a false reality mentally buddy.

Most people who see that tweet :ohhh:
:blessed: "nice!"

Nap: "OMG! SLOW DOWN!!!! :sadcam:"
 

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Yeah this is what I mean. Y'all just have a fundamentally different view of what America should be. AOC and progressives believe that the wealthiest country on earth should pivot from being a playground for the extremely wealthy to providing all of its citizens with a standard of living on par with the wealth being produced in and by the nation, which means introducing and/or advancing social standards such as universal healthcare, updated minimum wage, free post-secondary education, affordable housing, good jobs guarantee, etc. It's a throughline continuation of the work done during the mid-20th century in which standards like child labour laws, free welfare, free social security, free socialized healthcare via medicare and medicaid, minimum wage, etc were introduced.

You seem to believe that all citizens shouldn't have the right to benefit from the enormous wealth being produced because forcing the poor and marginalized to abide by an artificially defined standard of difficulty of life under the guide of teaching them a hard lesson is more important than giving them more support. In many ways, your vision of America is the more traditional and mainstreamed vision, due to its roots in Puritanism/Calvinism. During that aforementioned mid-20th century period, there were people like you pushing back against those social reforms. The whole "no free lunch" ethos is so central to American ideology. It's deeply alienating and punishing, but that's a feature, not a bug.

So whereas you see progressive proposals as "free" (aka unearned) programs being given to the indolent and unworthy, AOC and progressives see those programs as not only earned via natural rights as a citizen, but as a moral and civic imperative to update the social contract to take stock of modern circumstances and expand the circle of who is worthy of the fruits of American wealth.

My exception is and this is due to our inherent bias, the way you articulate thenProgressives proposal (I wont give AOC credit because I truly believe she is just regurgitating and doesn't know what she's talking about tbh). It's just a another spin on communism except you potentially remove all incentive to help produce. You remove all sense of initiative on the bottom half and you neuter actually upward progression (ironic that it's called progressive).
People are wired different, you give a man a fish everyday and one will take the fish and expect it everyday and when he gets tired he may ask you for some chicken because now he feels entitled. Another man may get the fish then start asking you how you got the fish and then may follow you to the river and learn how to fish himself . You have tonhave a system of incentives that is the bastion of where innovation comes from and why we are the #1 country . Of course if I lived in am arctic country with no resources , I'd be all for socialism because I need that helping hand as there's not much going on .
 

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Still doesn't realize that no matter what she does these conservative haters will find something to latch on to. Obama wasn't above this either and they still latch on to him misspeaking about 57 states like they think a Harvard educated guy doesn't know there are 50 states.

When will you realize that instead of constantly OCDing about every movement you make, the people who matter will not care and will like you more when you authentically clap back and speak your mind?

I blame an overconsumption of news media. It's put you in a false reality mentally buddy.

Most people who see that tweet :ohhh:
:blessed: "nice!"

Nap: "OMG! SLOW DOWN!!!! :sadcam:"
It's this beltway media game where they think you have to have some pristine public image to get elected. Trump proved them wrong, it's a wrap you can speak freely now. No one cares except beltway chumps who thinks politics is a game and not about real people's lives.
 

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investing in education will help us in longrun. We aren't just investing without reallocating funds.:russ: We taking money out of ICE, and useless government projects, trips, hell I'm ready for Congress to take a pay cut. Do you know how many useless stuff we invest in without even trying to fukk with education.We got the money, don't worry.


No we don't have money, show me where. And if we do .why would you put it into our crumbling k-12 school systems instead of enriching grown people who potentially made poor life decisions. Military has "free' education too. Maybe we should make anyone who wants free college enlist as payment ?
 

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It's this beltway media game where they think you have to have some pristine public image to get elected. Trump proved them wrong, it's a wrap you can speak freely now. No one cares except beltway chumps who thinks politics is a game and not about real people's lives.


Exactly what they thought Obama would do "ghetto" up the white house is what Trump is doing lol. You can't make this shyt up
 

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My exception is and this is due to our inherent bias, the way you articulate thenProgressives proposal (I wont give AOC credit because I truly believe she is just regurgitating and doesn't know what she's talking about tbh). It's just a another spin on communism except you potentially remove all incentive to help produce. You remove all sense of initiative on the bottom half and you neuter actually upward progression (ironic that it's called progressive).
People are wired different, you give a man a fish everyday and one will take the fish and expect it everyday and when he gets tired he may ask you for some chicken because now he feels entitled. Another man may get the fish then start asking you how you got the fish and then may follow you to the river and learn how to fish himself . You have tonhave a system of incentives that is the bastion of where innovation comes from and why we are the #1 country . Of course if I lived in am arctic country with no resources , I'd be all for socialism because I need that helping hand as there's not much going on .
We're the #1 country y'all. :mjlol:
Only in military spending, military interventions, locking people up.
 
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