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then what was it? bc there are/were others to the right of them, they didn’t try to go after.

Maybe it was she deemed them beatable while others had their district on lock. Or maybe she thought she had a strong candidate of her ilk in those particular districts. Have you ever considered that?
 

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you said she's trying to remove AAs from Congress

Yes at a disproportionate level. I know you're trying to say if they are removed by a black person, that doesnt matter.

I'm talking about the act of removal.
 

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Yes at a disproportionate level. I know you're trying to say if they are removed by a black person, that doesnt matter.

I'm talking about the act of removal.
There's a saying that all skinfolk ain't kinfolk. If the black people being removed aren't working for the black community then they need to be replaced by black people who will.
 

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This list of endorsements has a nice hit rate beating moderates so far...just sayin' :yeshrug:


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Cristina Tzintzún Ramirez (TX) VS Republican

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Teresa Fernandez (NM) Open Seat
Kara Eastman (NE) Vs republican
Georgette Gomez (CA) open seat
Marie Newman (IL) VS dem and won
Jessica Cisneros (TX) vs dem lost
Samelys Lopez (NY) open seat

Did AOC only go after CBC with her endorsements?

No.

But her endorsements vs incumbent democrats, disproportionately targeted incumbent CBC members
 

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There's a saying that all skinfolk ain't kinfolk. If the black people being removed aren't working for the black community then they need to be replaced by black people who will.

Crazy how u instantly think that just bc AOC endorsed them.


So the black skinfolk she targeted aint kinfolk, just bc AOC says so?
 

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SENATE
Cristina Tzintzún Ramirez (TX) VS Republican

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Teresa Fernandez (NM) Open Seat
Kara Eastman (NE) Vs white republican
Georgette Gomez (CA) open seat
Marie Newman (IL) VS white dem and won
Jessica Cisneros (TX) vs Mexican dem lost
Samelys Lopez (NY) open seat



No.

But her endorsements vs incumbent democrats, disproportionately targeted incumbent CBC members

So you're cherrypicking her endorsements and ignoring the identity of the people she endorsed...got it. The reach is getting pretty ridiculous here as we narrow the pre-requisites down to fit the limited scope that you've set up just to complain.

edit: I added in the racial make-up of the seats she targeted here just to make it clear, you're just throwing out the examples that don't fit your the narrative you want to craft.
 

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So you're cherrypicking her endorsements and ignoring the identity of the people she endorsed...got it. The reach is getting pretty ridiculous here as we narrow the pre-requisites down to fit the limited scope that you've set up just to complain.

I'm not cherrypicking anything, her endorsements vs democrat incumbents; are a complete and separate category. Just like her endorsements against incumbent republicans would be.

And with her endorsements against democratic incumbents, she disproportionately targeted Black CBC members.
 

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I'm not cherrypicking anything, her endorsements vs democrat incumbents; are a complete and separate category. Just like her endorsements against incumbent republicans would be.

And with her endorsements against democratic incumbents, she disproportionately targeted Black CBC members.

You're LITERALLY cherry picking breh. If we want to figure out what the philosophy is behind who she chooses to endorse, we need to look at EVERYONE she endorses. Not just a narrow subset of examples. I posted a list of 8 recent endorsements and not one of them qualifies for the narrow scope you've created.
 

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You're LITERALLY cherry picking breh. If we want to figure out what the philosophy is behind who she chooses to endorse, we need to look at EVERYONE she endorses. Not just a narrow subset of examples. I posted a list of 8 recent endorsements and not one of them qualifies for the narrow scope you've created.


That’s not cherry-picking :dwillhuh:.

It’s not a “ narrow scope” it has been a reportable metric, for the past 6-7 decades.


It’s how you report on party loyalty and ideology loyalty.

You think if Romney endorses Biden, it wouldn’t make the news? :comeon:

disloyalty against your party and endorsing a primary opponent or general opponent against an incumbent in your own party is a well-known and actively monitored political stat.

It’s how Joe Munchkin walks the line. You have no idea what you’re talking about?


CHERRY PICKING? :what:
 

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Maybe it was she deemed them beatable while others had their district on lock. Or maybe she thought she had a strong candidate of her ilk in those particular districts. Have you ever considered that?

@Warren Moon I'll take your omission of this as a no. lol

this is the third time you’ve said this statement. That would make sense on the surface level, of course I’ve considered it.

Y’all got any other excuses?
 

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That’s not cherry-picking :dwillhuh:.

It’s not a “ narrow scope” it has been a reportable metric, for the past 6-7 decades.


It’s how you report on party loyalty and ideology loyalty.

Wait, we measure her ideology and party loyalty based only on her endorsements of challengers to incumbents who are black? That's the only measure we need? She endorses Democratic challengers for Republican seats. She endorses Democratic challengers for Open seats...but those aren't measures of her support for Democrats? Or maybe...just MAYBE...you're cherry picking breh.

You think if Romney endorses Biden, it wouldn’t make the news? :comeon:

Romney endorsing Biden would be Romney endorsing a member of the opposing party to his own. Do you have ANY examples of AOC endorsing a Republican challenger at all? Let alone endorsing a Republican challenger to a black representative? But while we're discussing party loyalty, I did find a disloyal Democrat who bolstered a Republican campaign in recent history...
Joe Biden’s Paid Speech Buoyed the G.O.P. in Midwest Battleground

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But Mr. Biden was not there to denounce Mr. Upton. Instead, he was collecting $200,000 from the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan to address a Republican-leaning audience, according to a speaking contract obtained by The New York Times and interviews with organizers. The group, a business-minded civic organization, is supported in part by an Upton family foundation.

Mr. Biden stunned Democrats and elated Republicans by praising Mr. Upton while the lawmaker looked on from the audience. Alluding to Mr. Upton’s support for a landmark medical-research law, Mr. Biden called him a champion in the fight against cancer — and “one of the finest guys I’ve ever worked with.”

Mr. Biden’s remarks, coming amid a wide-ranging discourse on American politics, quickly appeared in Republican advertising. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Mr. Biden to repair what it saw as a damaging error, to no avail. On Nov. 6, Mr. Upton defeated his Democratic challenger by four and a half percentage points.

So uhhhh...does this not count? Should we teach Biden a lesson too? What do you suggest we do to teach him a lesson?

disloyalty against your party and endorsing a primary opponent or general opponent against an incumbent in your own party is a well-known and actively monitored political stat.

It’s how Joe Munchkin walks the line. You have no idea what you’re talking about?


CHERRY PICKING? :what:

Yes, cherry picking blatantly. Also, I'm not sure if bad faith or just really bad at constructing analogies, but you appeared to attempt to paint AOC endorsing progressives to endorsing Republicans. That's obviously not happening although there are some examples of Biden being way to friendly to Republican campaigns (fitting your analogy far better than any of AOC's endorsements).
 
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Wait, we measure her ideology and party loyalty based only on her endorsements of challengers to incumbents who are black? That's the only measure we need? She endorses Democratic challengers for Republican seats. She endorses Democratic challengers for Open seats...but those aren't measures of her support for Democrats? Or maybe...just MAYBE...you're cherry picking breh.



Romney endorsing Biden would be Romney endorsing a member of the opposing party to his own. Do you have ANY examples of AOC endorsing a Republican challenger at all? Let alone endorsing a Republican challenger to an black representative? But while we're discussing party loyalty, I did find a disloyal Democrat who bolstered a Republican campaign in recent history...
Joe Biden’s Paid Speech Buoyed the G.O.P. in Midwest Battleground






Yes, cherry picking blatantly. Also, I'm not sure if bad faith or just really bad at constructing analogies, but you appeared to attempt to paint AOC endorsing progressives to endorsing Republicans. That's obviously not happening although there are some examples of Biden being way to friendly to Republican campaigns (fitting your analogy far better than any of AOC's endorsements).

I didn’t post the munchkin analogy, I figured you’d pick on it. Clearly you didn’t.

So basically you’re saying if a congressman endorses primary opponents against their fellow dem incumbents; its utterly meaningless, as long as said congressman endorsed other democrats for vacant (traditionally) democratic seats or in races against republicans?

The democratic incumbents she does and doesn’t endorse in the primary race isn’t a relevant issue at all? As long as she has a certain number of endorsements overall.
 
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