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Republicans love doing this shyt.

they pulled it against Cynthia McKinney :snoop:


At first I was conflicted because she’s Jamaican. But I can’t rock with her. She’s gonna look out for businesses over the people. Be a part of the democratic process, but I don’t think she’s hot much of a chance.
 

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At first I was conflicted because she’s Jamaican. But I can’t rock with her. She’s gonna look out for businesses over the people. Be a part of the democratic process, but I don’t think she’s hot much of a chance.
I know her type, they exist in my family.

I'm telling ya'll....success does some foul shyt to Black people. They start thinking that they are blueprints instead of anecdotes and before you know it, they're voting with White Supremacists.

And there's layers to this too...I'ma hush because I know it's a sensitive topic in TLR right now but this is a really underhanded GOP play if you peep it...if you REALLY peep it...
 

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She has no chance.
Republicans love doing this shyt.

they pulled it against Cynthia McKinney :snoop:



It's a huge grift. It's a way to get national spotlight and money. Nothing more.

I think several Dems have threatened to primary her as well. Both sides!

AOC isn't getting primary'd by a significant person... if she wasn't raising the money she's been raising, I can see it but she's got a well-oiled machine right now. Same with Ilhan.

Dems are going to put their resources into protecting the swing incumbents and expanding the majority.
 

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See the ratios of dislikes to likes on this video? :damn:



Am I being too hyperbolic in stating these women are on some MLK shyt and way ahead of their time and will be considered national heroes way down the timeline?
I think so especially if Progressives gain a significant amount of power eventually.
 

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Am I being too hyperbolic in stating these women are on some MLK shyt and way ahead of their time and will be considered national heroes way down the timeline?
I think so especially if Progressives gain a significant amount of power eventually.
Nope.

I been said if AOC continues on this path and stays clean, she will be a force to be reckoned with in the future and that that future could involve the WH

The numbers don't lie. The older the voter, the more resistant to change they will be, even if it benefits them.

This is why Obama won twice, this is why Bernie had a foot in the door: the youth

And the youth support people like "The Squad", not old establishment types.

That's why whoever wins in 2020 will be a mixture of appeal to the older voters as well as energizing the youth...
 

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Am I being too hyperbolic in stating these women are on some MLK shyt and way ahead of their time and will be considered national heroes way down the timeline?
I think so especially if Progressives gain a significant amount of power eventually.

Nope.

I been said if AOC continues on this path and stays clean, she will be a force to be reckoned with in the future and that that future could involve the WH

The numbers don't lie. The older the voter, the more resistant to change they will be, even if it benefits them.

This is why Obama won twice, this is why Bernie had a foot in the door: the youth

And the youth support people like "The Squad", not old establishment types.

That's why whoever wins in 2020 will be a mixture of appeal to the older voters as well as energizing the youth...
Sometimes it’s clear as day who has next, like watching Derek Jeter and A-Rod in the mid 90’s or watching Shaq in the early 90’s.
 

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Am I being too hyperbolic in stating these women are on some MLK shyt and way ahead of their time and will be considered national heroes way down the timeline?
I think so especially if Progressives gain a significant amount of power eventually.

I think a better analogy - they remind me a LOT of the Radical Republicans who led the charge to end slavery long before the rest of the country supported the idea.

The Radical Republicans were a faction of American politicians within the Republican Party of the United States from around 1854 (before the American Civil War) until the end of Reconstruction in 1877. They called themselves "Radicals", with a goal of immediate, complete, permanent eradication of slavery, without compromise. They were opposed during the War by the moderate Republicans (led by United States President Abraham Lincoln), by the conservative Republicans, and by the pro-slavery and anti-Reconstruction Democratic Party as well as by conservatives in the South and liberals in the North during Reconstruction. Radicals led efforts after the war to establish civil rights for former slaves and fully implement emancipation. After weaker measures in 1866 resulted in violence against former slaves in the rebel states, Radicals pushed the Fourteenth Amendment and statutory protections through Congress. They disfavored allowing ex-Confederates officers to retake political power in the South, and emphasized equality, civil rights and voting rights for the "freedpeople", i.e. people who had been enslaved by state slavery laws within the United States.[1]

During the war, Radical Republicans opposed Lincoln's initial selection of General George B. McClellan for top command of the major eastern Army of the Potomac and his efforts to bring seceded Southern states back into the Union as quickly and easily as possible. Lincoln later recognized McClellan's weakness and relieved him of command. The Radicals passed their own reconstruction plan through the Congress in 1864, but Lincoln vetoed it and was putting his own presidential policies in effect by virtue as military commander-in-chief when he was assassinated in April 1865.[2] Radicals pushed for the uncompensated abolition of slavery, while Lincoln wanted to pay slave owners who were loyal to the Union. After the war, the Radicals demanded civil rights for freed US slaves, including measures ensuring suffrage. They initiated the various Reconstruction Acts as well as the Fourteenth Amendment and limited political and voting rights for ex-Confederate civil officials and military officers. They keenly fought United States President Andrew Johnson, a former slave owner from Tennessee who favored allowing Southern states to decide the rights and status of former slaves. After Johnson vetoed various Congressional acts favoring civil rights for former slaves, they attempted to remove him from office through impeachment, which failed by one vote in 1868.

God damn though, 165 years gives a different look to things. We're talking these guys:


Charles Sumner
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He was their leader for a long time, fighting against slavery before the war and for the full rights of Black folk after. His dad had been an OG abolitionist who taught Sumner that freeing the slaves was bullshyt unless they were given equal rights too. He was the guy who nearly got beat to death on the Senate floor (I'm not exaggerating, a southern senator beat him so hard with a cane it nearly killed him) for this speech:
Not in any common lust for power did this uncommon tragedy have its origin. It is the rape of a virgin Territory, compelling it to the hateful embrace of slavery; and it may be clearly traced to a depraved desire for a new Slave State, hideous offspring of such a crime, in the hope of adding to the power of slavery in the National Government.[32]

The senator from South Carolina has read many books of chivalry, and believes himself a chivalrous knight with sentiments of honor and courage. Of course he has chosen a mistress to whom he has made his vows, and who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight -- I mean the harlot, slavery. For her his tongue is always profuse in words. Let her be impeached in character, or any proposition made to shut her out from the extension of her wantonness, and no extravagance of manner or hardihood of assertion is then too great for this senator.



Thaddeus Stevens
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Stevens was fighting for Black equality and the vote for thirty years before it happened. He was a freaking congressman and yet was actively participating in the Underground Railroad, coordinating actions and even having a secret tunnel and hidden cistern for fugitive slaves in his own damn house. When the Fugitive Slave Act was being pushed he shyt on the establishment in ways pretty damn reminiscent of the Squad.
It is my purpose nowhere in these remarks to make personal reproaches; I entertain no ill-will toward any human being, nor any brute, that I know of, not even the [Democratic] skunk across the way to which I referred. Least of all would I reproach the South. I honor her courage and fidelity. Even in a bad, a wicked cause, she shows a united front. All her sons are faithful to the cause of human bondage, because it is their cause. But the North—the poor, timid, mercenary, driveling North—has no such united defenders of her cause, although it is the cause of human liberty ... She is offered up a sacrifice to propitiate southern tyranny—to conciliate southern treason.

He was also one of the main pushers of forty acres and a mule. He was extremely upset when Congress refused to guarantee land to Black folk and felt that it was even more important than getting the vote.




William Seward
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He was fighting for Black rights for 20+ years before the Civil War broke out, and actually nearly won the nomination for president in 1860 over Lincoln (who was personally anti-slavery but not determined to end it like the radicals were). When Stephen Douglas said n----r on the Senate floor Seward got up and shyt all over him and said no bigot like him would ever be president. That racist Confederate sympathizer John Wilkes Booth who killed Lincoln tried to have Seward killed too, Seward was shot but survived.
But you answer, that the Constitution recognizes property in slaves. It would be sufficient, then, to reply, that this constitutional recognition must be void, because it is repugnant to the law of nature and of nations.



The Radicals were shytting on the Southerners, the Democrats, AND the moderates in their own party in the 1850s and all through the war, but even though they were an outspoken minority they became the main driving force behind pushing their party and then the nation to eventually end slavery. They finally rose to power in 1866 when Reconstruction was going poorly and the rest of Republicans agreed that the freed slaves needed more support from the federal government, pushed the 14th Amendment through, pushed to keep former Confederates out of power, and fought the KKK, then lost power in the 1870s when moderates from their own party turned on them (claiming enough had already been done to help Black people) and the split allowed the Democrats to take power and and destroy Reconstruction.

It's crazy shyt that the fukking Confederates have 100x as many memorials and statues as these guys do.
 
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