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because Alex Jones is full of shyt :ehh:

If anything I think he would be a government plant since it would be incredibly easy to discredit conspiracies with that dumbass as the figurehead
 

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If Obama really wanted you dead (in some tyrannical form) your glock pistol won't do sh*t against his army of drones, tanks, nukes, bombs, poison, assassins, etc. at his disposal. The whole argument of protection from tyrannical govts is invalid in this day n age.

its not really about the individual, the thought is that that if the government becomes tyrannical, the people can organize into militias to overthrow the government and presumably some of the people in the army will switch sides too
 

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its not really about the individual, the thought is that that if the government becomes tyrannical, the people can organize into militias to overthrow the government and presumably some of the people in the army will switch sides too
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Govt doesnt need an army... they can push a button and level your whole city. No "assault rifle" can beat that

And the omnipresence of guns in the US contributes to our super high per capita gun violence rates... particularly in the black community, which you claim to care so much about

There is no rational argument for guns. I know gun owners. They like having guns because they think they are cool and they make them feel powerful. Many of them realize the futility of a gun in real life or death situations. They sell the whole completely antequated "overthrow the govt" thing as the only shred of rationale for having them.
 

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Govt doesnt need an army... they can push a button and level your whole city. No "assault rifle" can beat that

And the omnipresence of guns in the US contributes to our super high per capita gun violence rates... particularly in the black community, which you claim to care so much about

There is no rational argument for guns. I know gun owners. They like having guns because they think they are cool and they make them feel powerful. Many of them realize the futility of a gun in real life or death situations. They sell the whole completely antequated "overthrow the govt" thing as the only shred of rationale for having them.

i have no idea what you mean, how can a government not need an army? who do you think is gonna press the button to supposedly destroy a city? and even if you supposedly destroy a city you still need an army to occupy and keep control of the population and the hundreds of other cities, there are 300 million people in this country and about 1 million people in the military, in the long run the 300 million armed people will obviously win
 

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Govt doesnt need an army... they can push a button and level your whole city. No "assault rifle" can beat that

And the omnipresence of guns in the US contributes to our super high per capita gun violence rates... particularly in the black community, which you claim to care so much about

There is no rational argument for guns. I know gun owners. They like having guns because they think they are cool and they make them feel powerful. Many of them realize the futility of a gun in real life or death situations. They sell the whole completely antequated "overthrow the govt" thing as the only shred of rationale for having them.

da prollem is not guns. da prollem is blas wit guns. if it wuznt fo good whie folts wit guns dis c*ntry wood look like da kongo or hatey.

dass why I think blas shood be ban from havin guns unless dey r boddygards fo tailor swiff.
 

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LOL @ people saying people can't organize and take on the government. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan? How long have we been fighting different militant groups coming together? Look at Vietnam. The fact is this if the government did turn on it's people, do you want guns or not? It's not about "You can't beat them anyway" it's about having a resistance to try. For the record as I said, I want to live in a gun free society but I do not trust the government and police with the guns.

They've already proven they can't be trusted. Banning Automatic weapons isn't going to stop a psycho from getting them. The fact is either we ban guns all together or we don't. We aren't banning guns all together so little restrictions here or there won't stop what happen. Dude in CT killed those kids with LEGAL guns. Americans need to understands as long as it's legal to have guns there will be gun violence. Just like there will be drunk driving as long as it's legal to get alcohol.
 

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i have no idea what you mean, how can a government not need an army? who do you think is gonna press the button to supposedly destroy a city? and even if you supposedly destroy a city you still need an army to occupy and keep control of the population and the hundreds of other cities, there are 300 million people in this country and about 1 million people in the military, in the long run the 300 million armed people will obviously win

Who would push the button? Any govt official w/a finger... remember, the president is commander in chief, and now his army has more and more unmanned "soldiers". Govt doesnt need a manned army. If a city rises up and the govt squashes it with unmanned weapons, it would be pretty stupid for another city to try to take them on with guns. You gonna shoot at an unmanned drone 2 miles in the sky with a glock :comeon: At the minimum they would need to fight the govt outside of the arena of weapons and combat, rendering the guns useless

LOL @ people saying people can't organize and take on the government. Look at Iraq and Afganistan? How long have we been fighting different militant groups coming together? Look at Vietnam. The fact is this if the government did turn on it's people, do you want guns or not? It's not about "You can't beat them anyway" it's about having a resistance to try. for the record as I said, I want to live in a gun free society but I do not trust the government and police with the guns. They've already proven they can't be trusted.

Iraq and Afghanistan? We initiated + organized the govt overthrows there. A better example would be the Arab Spring countries. And even then, not comparable. You guys seem to forget, US govt has the largest cache of weapons and the biggest military in the world. 2nd amendment "overthrow the govt" talk was only relevant back during revolutionary times... we let the govt get powerful beyond our control, making the 2nd Amendment meaningless
 

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You guys are retarded. 95% of the people who have a pistol don't know how to shoot in a straight line to save their lives :childplease:

A trained squadron of seals could take out at least 15X the number of people against them in this fat, untrained country. Ya'll really believe you are gonna be able to combat some of the world's finest soldiers with people who probably try to shoot a gun like in the movies? Americans wouldn't be taking back shyt.

Also if the govt really wanted a police state whats stopping them from just dropping a bomb on any place that doesn't adhere to it?

Lastly I hate all these conspiracy theory ass nikkas who stay on the webs spouting this shyt even they don't really believe otherwise they would be outside picketing about it or would have moved to another country. My nikka stay posting Alex Jones links on FB telling people to wake up to this tyrannical dictatorship country. I just hit him with the :aicmon: and tell him Canada is literally three hours away. I know if I really felt threatened in my country I would leave ASAP...
 

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I understand we have the most powerful military but if you study History you would know that tons of Powerful Military were beaten by smaller and smarter groups of people that organized. So the 2nd Amendment like Alex Says was not about Hunting, it was about the people having a way to fight back from crazy governments. It was about resistance. Alex brought up a great point about Mexico. Look at the gun violence there, nobody has guns.

So again unless America wants EVERYONE to get rid of Guns which we don't. Then gun violence will not stop. Banning this gun or that gun ain't going to change anything. Look at Columbine, that happen with the Clinton gun ban. America needs to understand having guns are the issue and since we love our guns in this country then more CT shootings will happen regardless of what gets banned. I feel a gun free society across the board is the best way to solve this problem but that won't happen in America.
 

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Who would push the button? Any govt official w/a finger... remember, the president is commander in chief, and now his army has more and more unmanned "soldiers". Govt doesnt need a manned army. If a city rises up and the govt squashes it with unmanned weapons, it would be pretty stupid for another city to try to take them on with guns. You gonna shoot at an unmanned drone 2 miles in the sky with a glock :comeon: At the minimum they would need to fight the govt outside of the arena of weapons and combat, rendering the guns useless



Iraq and Afghanistan? We initiated + organized the govt overthrows there. A better example would be the Arab Spring countries. And even then, not comparable. You guys seem to forget, US govt has the largest cache of weapons and the biggest military in the world. 2nd amendment "overthrow the govt" talk was only relevant back during revolutionary times... we let the govt get powerful beyond our control, making the 2nd Amendment meaningless

:wtf: there is no government official that pulls the trigger, are you smoking crack? unmanned is simply a description, its not literal, every "unmanned" machine has a soldier controlling it, every drone attack is made by a soldier, there is no government official that is even close to putting their finger on the actual trigger

the notion of government officials using unmanned weapons to crush an uprising of people with guns is retarded, its not even realistic by any stretch of the imagination, if you dont have soldiers on the ground occupying space you are not crushing anything and if those soldiers are outnumbered 300 to 1 by an armed population they are not crushing anything
 

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and im not even pro guns, what alex jones left out was australia, where they have confiscated all the guns and crime went down

in the UK they have had an influx of asian and poor european immigrants that has caused less social cohesion, that explains the increase in crime more than taking away guns

but just on straight facts, alex jones was correct for the most part
 

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You guys are retarded. 95% of the people who have a pistol don't know how to shoot in a straight line to save their lives :childplease:

A trained squadron of seals could take out at least 15X the number of people against them in this fat, untrained country. Ya'll really believe you are gonna be able to combat some of the world's finest soldiers with people who probably try to shoot a gun like in the movies? Americans wouldn't be taking back shyt.

Also if the govt really wanted a police state whats stopping them from just dropping a bomb on any place that doesn't adhere to it?

Lastly I hate all these conspiracy theory ass nikkas who stay on the webs spouting this shyt even they don't really believe otherwise they would be outside picketing about it or would have moved to another country. My nikka stay posting Alex Jones links on FB telling people to wake up to this tyrannical dictatorship country. I just hit him with the :aicmon: and tell him Canada is literally three hours away. I know if I really felt threatened in my country I would leave ASAP...

i dont see how anybody can look at the history of vietnam, iraq and afghanistan and make statements like this, it is basically impossible to occupy an armed population regardless of how good of a military you have
 

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see how this works?

My point is a psycho will get the guns legal or not. So even if you ban them they will get them on the illegal market. If someone wants to kill, they will kill. The only real solution to lower gun violence is not a particular ban but to ban all guns but that won't happen in America.
 

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the pro-gun guys talking about "protecting themselves from/overthrowing the tyrannical government" are almost always the same guys that can't even get their shyt together enough to vote...or protest...or organize and mobilize in any palatable way. the best they got are a bunch of camo-wearing hicks drinking budweiser in the forest.

i understand that people have issues with government power and whatnot but what i don't get is taking it to such extremes. this demented paranoid fantasy of having to take a guerilla warfare battle to the imaginary maoist president and his crew in near future is totally fukked up to me.

this whole gun control debate is about 50 trillion miles away from abolishing the 2nd amendment. all this fear-mongering "they're taking our guns away!" hyperbole is complete bullshyt.
 
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