Alex Jones on Piers Morgan

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Let me guess....... I posted at 4:18 pm, you posted at 4:20 pm.......which means there is NO WAY you had an opportunity to watch this 8 minute video.......:shaq2:

supposing you haven't seen it in less 24 hours...... :beli:

Watch the video......then respond back... please...

:what: he wasn't responding to your video
 

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So how do you explain all the other Western countries and cities/states in the US that have banned guns and not descended into complete chaos

why would i have to explain that, i never asserted that there would be chaos if guns were banned, in fact i pointed in a post that alex jones left out the example of australia were guns were confiscated and crime went down and that other factors explain crime going up in the UK

my position is that the second amendment is a good thing and its not outdated but we should tighten up gun laws
 

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i wasnt, i dont even know what your video has to do with what im saying, i was just arguing about what would happen in a hypothetical situation of the government attacking civilians

:ooh: :deadrose: that's what the video was referring to, your talking points and pictures.......do yourself a favor and watch the video...and I mean that with sincerity.....
 

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my position is that the second amendment is a good thing and its not outdated but we should tighten up gun laws

I am not completely against the 2nd amendment either, but the idea that we need it "in case we need to overthrow the govt" is ridiculous

Even if we were all armed (with hand guns) the govt would overwhelm us swiftly w/o even deploying one troop

I dont think you understand how ill equipped the avg American is for any kind of struggle or even mild inconvenience, and you are talking about spilling blood for revolutions lmao
 

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You are being too literal

There are plenty of unmanned drones + weapons... a Tomahawk missile just needs a launching point and a target, its GPS and automatic controls will do the rest. The idea that the only way the govt can attack people is through sending troops on the ground to engage in hand to hand combat with bayonets is fukking retarded

in the end if they want to occupy an armed population they have to send in troops, a tomahawk missile is useless against an armed population

well i agree its possible for a government official sitting in washington to give an order to attack a city but i dont see how that same official would stop thousands of civilians from running up in his office and killing him, thats my point, an armed population will be a threat that can only be handled by armed troops on the ground

an armed population cant stop a particular attack but it will make the government official reconsider

Its no less realistic than the possibility of the govt sending the army to fire on its citizens, but you used that remote possibilty as justification for the 2nd amendment

its not probable that the government will fire on its own cities, but its not impossible

what i mean by not realistic wasnt referring to the possibility, which is remote, but that its simply not a viable strategy to attack a city using unmanned planes, the only way to occupy or pacify a city of armed people would be by sending in troops, you can destroy a city but you cant conquer a city using unmanned weapons

Tell that to the folks being attacked by drones. Tell that to the victims of Hiroshima + Nagasaki. Tell that to the victims of 9/11. You can crush everything with 70 year old technology. You ever heard of the Cold War?

the reason why the us uses drones is because its not capable of conquering those places on the ground, or its not interested in occupying those places

so using drones is bad counter argument against the second amendment, if the government is using drones that means its not capable of conquering the city or territory itself

the second amendment is to prevent a foreign force or an enemy from conquering or occupying your territory

the japanese population was unarmed, that is why all the US had to do was drop a couple of atomic bombs to conquer japan, you can drop a bomb on every american city and you would still not be able to control us territory without dealing with the armed population

what about 9/11? what did they conquer with 9/11?

If each soldier has weapons that can kill 3,000 people at a time what does it matter how they are outnumbered

In the goofy doomsday scenario you presented why the fukk do you think the army or the govt would play by old military etiquette? If they wanted to crush the American people why would they waste their time playing on a field they could lose on? If you really think a couple of handguns and assault rifles are enough to go up against tanks and GPS guided missiles you're a full blown retard

that is an absolutely awful military analysis, and i dont even know where you get that number from, it matters very much if they are outnumbered, how trained they are, how loyal they are and overall moral etc etc, but overall its hard to see how 1 million people can conquer 300 million armed people

its not a couple of handgun and assault rifles, the us is completely awash with guns, and its actually quite easy to go against tanks and guided missiles especially if you have the overwhelming numbers on your side
 

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I am not completely against the 2nd amendment either, but the idea that we need it "in case we need to overthrow the govt" is ridiculous

Even if we were all armed (with hand guns) the govt would overwhelm us swiftly w/o even deploying one troop

I dont think you understand how ill equipped the avg American is for any kind of struggle or even mild inconvenience, and you are talking about spilling blood for revolutions lmao

i think your knowledge of military tactics is about zero, so you should stop commenting on it, there is no way any government or military would overwhelm an armed population "swiftly",

and i dont think you understand how militarized the us is, there are 22 million military veterans in the us The U.S. Veteran Population — Infoplease.com

just military veterans themselves would overwhelm the actual us military
 

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i think your knowledge of military tactics is about zero, so you should stop commenting on it, there is no way any government or military would overwhelm an armed population "swiftly",

and i dont think you understand how militarized the us is, there are 22 million military veterans in the us The U.S. Veteran Population — Infoplease.com

just military veterans themselves would overwhelm the actual us military

1/3 of which is disabled

2/3 of which are over 50

8/9 of which are nowhere near as armed or trained as current enlistees

3/3 of which are powerless to an unmanned drone

Its either all or none... either the govt lets the people take it over, or it stops at nothing to protect its power... this completely unrealistic revolutionary war reenactment you are touting as the only outcome of an uprising is ridiculous
 

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1/3 of which is disabled

2/3 of which are over 50

8/9 of which are nowhere near as armed or trained as current enlistees

3/3 of which are powerless to an unmanned drone

i dont know where you are getting your numbers from but a fraction of 22 million would still overwhelm 1 million, that is not even counting civilians 280 million other civilians

Its either all or none... either the govt lets the people take it over, or it stops at nothing to protect its power..

but thats the whole point, if the government has to let the people take over or stop at nothing, most rational people in the government will let the people take over, thats why there is an second amendment

. this completely unrealistic revolutionary war reenactment you are touting as the only outcome of an uprising is ridiculous

i never touted any scenario, i was just analyzing the hypothetical scenario presented, and hypothetically speaking the pro gun people are right that an armed population is essentially impossible to conquer

the second amendment does guarantee that the us will never be conquered from outside and it keeps the government in check, if the government went to far
 

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Never thought I'd see white folks get more pissed than when OJ was found not guilty. Mention guns and they go apeshyt :mindblown:
 

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:ooh: :deadrose: that's what the video was referring to, your talking points and pictures.......do yourself a favor and watch the video...and I mean that with sincerity.....

dude, I don't know if you're on a phone, or if there's some reason you're not seeing it, but go back and look. you should be responding to "Zeu$", not TWISM
 

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Oh I see, nah I didn't post this pictures, I was rebutting them

I don't know why people think the pasty fat fuk is not dangerous or less dangerous than the Iraqi, physical ability stopped being important in warfare when the gun was invented

what makes a soldier dangerous is that he knows how to read and write, he will follow orders and is loyal, that's all you need to be an effective soldier

you can't asses somebody just by looking at those pics
 
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