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Ima be honest, some of yall in this thread are disgusting with trying to make this kid out to be some wronged martyr. Somebody is fukking DEAD due to activities that he played a part in. I dont give a fukk how many points he lit up S. Carolina for.

Now by all accounts of Alabama Law, Miller did nothing legally wrong. The most you could accuse him off is acting as an accomplice but even that is circumstantial as his intent when he transported the weapon cannot be assessed.

In fact, im going to play devils advocate and assume that his intent was to deliver the gun to Miles so that he could protect himself from a threat.

With that established, what bothers me is that based on the reporting, not one time among the group of Brandon Miller, Darius Miles, Micheal Davis, Jaden Bradley did one of these young men attempt to deescalate the situation in any meaningful way. And I surely believe that Brandon Miller shares a massive amount of culpability in escalating the situation by bringing the fukking gun in the first place.

What bothers me is a troubling trend of seeing young Black men make stupid, impulsive decisions to inflict or enable the infliction of violence upon somebody else without any regard to 2nd or 3rd order effects.

Like even if Miller did think Miles needed protection, what did he think bringing the gun would solve? Wouldnt picking them up to flee the situation be the better option? Wouldnt involving Law Enforcement have been the better option as well? Did he really think a potential gun fight would be the safest, most effective way to solve whatever encounter Miles was in? Did he ever think about how he and Miles being involved in whatever was going on would affect their basketball careers?

I could go on and on about how few considerations were made in this decision.

Some of yall will say he's 18 and 18 year old kids are dumb. But to absolve hm of any sort of critical thought criticism because of his age is a pathetically low bar to hold hm accountable to (and once again, thats assuming hes as innocent as he claiming).

Not to mention, if he is dumb enough to not consider any of what i previously laid out, yall really think he still should be playing in the NBA?
He didn’t bring the weapon

This why I hate u nikkas, u will type all this and still be wrong

Phone GPS records show he was bout to pick up his teammate and was already on the way when Miles sent the text

Y’all in here wilding, acting like u care about this woman when y’all jus wanna see a young man in trouble
 

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I didn't say he was a murderer, but he needs to be accountable. No one who takes a loaded gun to an angry friend at 1:30am should be able to duck responsibility for the results. Did he really say he left "one in the head"? And you don't think he had some idea of what it was there for?

Have you ever had a gunshot victim bleed out in your arms? Felt the desperation of doing everything you could to keep the blood in their body and their heart still pumping while little kids cried and their friends desperately called out to Jesus? Known that if you failed this shyt was FINAL, that that life wasn't ever coming back and there would be people mourning forever? I would NEVER bring a gun to someone who had any chance of using it on a human being. If Alabama gave a shyt about gunshot victims then his actions would have been illegal as fukk, but there's a reason you're top-5 in the nation in gun death rates and so long as it's mostly Black folk dying, I don't see anything changing.
Held accountable for what? He didn’t do anything legally or morally wrong

He didn’t know the gun was in his car. Miles grabbed the gun out of the backseat when Miller arrived to pick him up
 

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He didn’t bring the weapon

This why I hate u nikkas, u will type all this and still be wrong

Phone GPS records show he was bout to pick up his teammate and was already on the way when Miles sent the text

Y’all in here wilding, acting like u care about this woman when y’all jus wanna see a young man in trouble
Unless he got the fukking text as he was pulling up or was completely unaware that the text was even sent, this is irrelevant. If he drove there with the intent of giving the gun to Miles, he is culpable


In fact, after re-reading his lawyers statement, his lawyer never says Miller didnt know the gun was there OR never says Miller didn’t see the text. They know he saw the text and they know he drove there with the intent of giving Miles the gun. They plan on ducking any charges due to Alabama being a fukking hell hole in regards to gun violence
 
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What source is that? The actual link. The AL article says:

Miles contacted Miller and asked him to bring his gun to where they were, according to police. The gun belonged to Miles.


When Miller got to the scene, Miles told Davis, “The heat is in the hat.” Det. Branden Culpepper said that meant a gun was present.

Miles added, “There’s one in the head.” That, Culpepper said, meant a round was in the chamber.




Man this shyt confusing
 

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Held accountable for what? He didn’t do anything legally or morally wrong

He didn’t know the gun was in his car. Miles grabbed the gun out of the backseat when Miller arrived to pick him up

Miles, Davis, and Bradley could be then seen approaching the vehicle, Davis stopping to dance in front of the Jeep. After a brief interaction which Investigator Culpepper described as "elevated," Davis allegedly told Johnson, "We don't want your girl." Miles claims he saw a gun passed to Johnson inside the car.
After the encounter, the suspects walked to a nearby parking lot around 1:40 a.m. Around the same time according to text messages shown in court, Miles texted Miller, "I need my joint a n****r rl jus got fakin".


Yeah I'm sure innocent ass Brandon didn't know what was going on.
 

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After the encounter, the suspects walked to a nearby parking lot around 1:40 a.m. Around the same time according to text messages shown in court, Miles texted Miller, "I need my joint a n****r rl jus got fakin".


Yeah I'm sure innocent ass Brandon didn't know what was going on.
Theirs is nothing that shows Miller read that text and the dash cam shows he was already headed that way before the text was sent.

Again, the gun was in Millers backseat under some clothes because Miles left it there while riding to the Strip with Miller

Miller goes to get his car and Drives to Miles location. Miles then reached in Millers car and grabs the gun out of the back seat. Next, a shoutout occurs

@Rhakim go ahead and type some more paragraphs
 

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She was collateral. She was in the car as it was getting shot into. By most accounts, the actual target was her boyfriend who was beefing with Davis and Miles
And the boyfriend shot the murderer twice

It sounds like The murderer and the boyfriend had real smoke and ran into each other twice that night.

The story about the mom trying to get at the girlfriend is what the boyfriend told the police after the shooting
 
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Ima be honest, some of yall in this thread are disgusting with trying to make this kid out to be some wronged martyr. Somebody is fukking DEAD due to activities that he played a part in. I dont give a fukk how many points he lit up S. Carolina for.

Now by all accounts of Alabama Law, Miller did nothing legally wrong. The most you could accuse him off is acting as an accomplice but even that is circumstantial as his intent when he transported the weapon cannot be assessed.

In fact, im going to play devils advocate and assume that his intent was to deliver the gun to Miles so that he could protect himself from a threat.

With that established, what bothers me is that based on the reporting, not one time among the group of Brandon Miller, Darius Miles, Micheal Davis, Jaden Bradley did one of these young men attempt to deescalate the situation in any meaningful way. And I surely believe that Brandon Miller shares a massive amount of culpability in escalating the situation by bringing the fukking gun in the first place.

What bothers me is a troubling trend of seeing young Black men make stupid, impulsive decisions to inflict or enable the infliction of violence upon somebody else without any regard to 2nd or 3rd order effects.

Like even if Miller did think Miles needed protection, what did he think bringing the gun would solve? Wouldnt picking them up to flee the situation be the better option? Wouldnt involving Law Enforcement have been the better option as well? Did he really think a potential gun fight would be the safest, most effective way to solve whatever encounter Miles was in? Did he ever think about how he and Miles being involved in whatever was going on would affect their basketball careers?

I could go on and on about how few considerations were made in this decision.

Some of yall will say he's 18 and 18 year old kids are dumb. But to absolve hm of any sort of critical thought criticism because of his age is a pathetically low bar to hold hm accountable to (and once again, thats assuming hes as innocent as he claiming).

Not to mention, if he is dumb enough to not consider any of what i previously laid out, yall really think he still should be playing in the NBA?


I’m with you except a few things

1). Involving law enforcement when it comes to black males is almost NEVER the right option. Police make things worse

2). Miller’s account (through his Lawyer) is that he had no idea the gun was even in his car UNTIL he was texted to bring it back to him. Also by the lawyer’s account the Gun was legally owned, so Miller isn’t exactly morally obligated to not return someone’s property. IF Miller’s account is to be believed, he gave someone what they owned, immediately bounced and was going about his evening until the shots rang out a few minutes later.


IF he wasn’t aware of the previous confrontation and wasn’t involved in it and was on some “My name is bennet and I Ain’t In It” type steeze then the question becomes one of how culpable is an individual for minding their own business and not inquiring on the “why” of a matter?

I think thats where the moral issue lies. If your my homeboy and I know you may have a reputation for being hot-headed and i’m around you when you get in some shyt with another person or parties, then i’d feel
MORALLY obligated to try to diffuse the situation. Get cooler heads to prevail.

Now lets say i’m not around, i’m chilling minding my business, rocking solo for the night, you call me to pick you up and drop you off at the spot. I’m a do you the solid and scoop you but i’m not in the mood for partying that night. I drop you off, I go do my own thing. You text me you left your gun in my car and you need it. I’ve known SOME people who might sense an issue there but are so tired of dealing with their short fused friend, are pissed the gun was even left in their car in the first place, that their not gonna inquire on anything and just drop the gun off and then get as far away as possible to not be part of whatever might go down. Because asking questions oftentimes gets you swept up in whatever fukkery.

I’ve also known SOME people who would ask questions and try to Furious Styles the situation and talk them out of it no matter what

Its a fukked up situation and I think the question as it pertains to Miller is how responsible are you for the actions of another human being?
 

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Unless he got the fukking text as he was pulling up or was completely unaware that the text was even sent, this is irrelevant. If he drove there with the intent of giving the gun to Miles, he is culpable


In fact, after re-reading his lawyers statement, his lawyer never says Miller didnt know the gun was there OR never says Miller didn’t see the text. They know he saw the text and they know he drove there with the intent of giving Miles the gun. They plan on ducking any charges due to Alabama being a fukking hell hole in regards to gun violence
Lol nah it’s irrelevant because it kills this whole accomplice picture u tryna paint

Foh, I see thru the shyt y’all on, y’all don’t even have the facts and are in here typing paragraphs
 

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Y’all in here wilding, acting like u care about this woman when y’all jus wanna see a young man in trouble

That's some wild shyt to say. I'll ask again, have you ever has a gunshot victim bleed out in your arms or no? You ever looked into the eyes of a victim's loved ones as they watch him die? Who the fukk are you to say what I care about?




Held accountable for what? He didn’t do anything legally or morally wrong

He didn’t know the gun was in his car. Miles grabbed the gun out of the backseat when Miller arrived to pick him up


It's only been a couple days and you've already reached R. Kelly defender levels of juelzing. You're making up shyt that even his lawyer didn't try. The lawyer said, "He didn't know illegal activity would occur", he never said that he didn't know about the gun.

Lol at claiming he didn't know about the gun in his car just off general principle, but on top of that, if he didn't know about the gun then why didn't Davis have to tell him it was there when he asked him to bring it? He didn't say, "Bring me my joint, sorry I hid it in your car without telling you", he said "‘I need my joint a n****r rl jus got a fakin.'”

That's shyt you only say to someone who knows where your gun is, and there is zero chance anyone reads that without knowing he is thinking of doing something evil with that weapon.
 
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That's some wild shyt to say. I'll ask again, have you ever has a gunshot victim bleed out in your arms or no? You ever looked into the eyes of a victim's loved ones as they watch him die? Who the fukk are you to say what I care about?







It's only been a couple days and you've already reached R. Kelly defender levels of juelzing. You're making up shyt that even his lawyer didn't try. The lawyer said, "He didn't know illegal activity would occur", he never said that he didn't know about the gun.

Lol at claiming he didn't know about the gun in his car just off general principle, but on top of that, if he didn't know about the gun then why didn't Davis have to tell him it was there when he asked him to bring it? He didn't say, "Bring me my joint, sorry I his it in your car without telling you", he said "‘I need my joint [gun] a n****r rl jus got a fakin.'”

That's shyt you only say to someone who knows where your gun is, and there is zero chance anyone reads that without knowing he is thinking of doing something evil with that weapon.
Hot dogs holler, Tuscaloosa DA already said Miller had minimal involvement so they can’t charge him wit anything

Y’all in here misreporting facts to spread a narrative, hard to believe y’all really care
 

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That's some wild shyt to say. I'll ask again, have you ever has a gunshot victim bleed out in your arms or no? You ever looked into the eyes of a victim's loved ones as they watch him die? Who the fukk are you to say what I care about?







It's only been a couple days and you've already reached R. Kelly defender levels of juelzing. You're making up shyt that even his lawyer didn't try. The lawyer said, "He didn't know illegal activity would occur", he never said that he didn't know about the gun.

Lol at claiming he didn't know about the gun in his car just off general principle, but on top of that, if he didn't know about the gun then why didn't Davis have to tell him it was there when he asked him to bring it? He didn't say, "Bring me my joint, sorry I his it in your car without telling you", he said "‘I need my joint [gun] a n****r rl jus got a fakin.'”

That's shyt you only say to someone who knows where your gun is, and there is zero chance anyone reads that without knowing he is thinking of doing something evil with that weapon.
So it’s beyond plausible in your mind that something can be left in a persons car and they are unaware it was left there :mindblown:

Especially when Dash cam footage shows Miles grabbing the gun from the backseat
 

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I’m with you except a few things

1). Involving law enforcement when it comes to black males is almost NEVER the right option. Police make things worse

2). Miller’s account (through his Lawyer) is that he had no idea the gun was even in his car UNTIL he was texted to bring it back to him. Also by the lawyer’s account the Gun was legally owned, so Miller isn’t exactly morally obligated to not return someone’s property. IF Miller’s account is to be believed, he gave someone what they owned, immediately bounced and was going about his evening until the shots rang out a few minutes later.


IF he wasn’t aware of the previous confrontation and wasn’t involved in it and was on some “My name is bennet and I Ain’t In It” type steeze then the question becomes one of how culpable is an individual for minding their own business and not inquiring on the “why” of a matter?

I think thats where the moral issue lies. If your my homeboy and I know you may have a reputation for being hot-headed and i’m around you when you get in some shyt with another person or parties, then i’d feel
MORALLY obligated to try to diffuse the situation. Get cooler heads to prevail.

Now lets say i’m not around, i’m chilling minding my business, rocking solo for the night, you call me to pick you up and drop you off at the spot. I’m a do you the solid and scoop you but i’m not in the mood for partying that night. I drop you off, I go do my own thing. You text me you left your gun in my car and you need it. I’ve known SOME people who might sense an issue there but are so tired of dealing with their short fused friend, are pissed the gun was even left in their car in the first place, that their not gonna inquire on anything and just drop the gun off and then get as far away as possible to not be part of whatever might go down. Because asking questions oftentimes gets you swept up in whatever fukkery.

I’ve also known SOME people who would ask questions and try to Furious Styles the situation and talk them out of it no matter what

Its a fukked up situation and I think the question as it pertains to Miller is how responsible are you for the actions of another human being?
I mean like I said, at best the boys an idiot. Just off the strength of the year hes having in ball, he shouldve had SOME pause about bringing the gun and potential fukkery that could ensue.

At slightly worst, hes so apathetic about violence and conditioned to normalize violence that he literally didnt care if Miles dumped on someone :manny:

At absolute worst, hes a demon and craved to see some bloodshed.

None of these scenarios paint the picture of someone who is particularly innocent or worthy of being protected from accountability
 
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