Alabama basketball player charged with murder- Update Projected lottery pick provided gun

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Interesting take on this.

I guess the legal system is weird like that. Minimal involvement should mean nothing he did directly led to the crime happening. If he's the reason the shooter was able to even possess a gun, how is that minimal involvement? It's like when someone rides in a car with someone who's driving, they get out and go commit a crime. Most times, the driver is getting heat when those charges come down. Very interesting.
If miles would’ve taken his shoe out of his bag and beat someone to death do y’all think Miller should be charged?
 

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Interesting take on this.

I guess the legal system is weird like that. Minimal involvement should mean nothing he did directly led to the crime happening. If he's the reason the shooter was able to even possess a gun, how is that minimal involvement? It's like when someone rides in a car with someone who's driving, they get out and go commit a crime. Most times, the driver is getting heat when those charges come down. Very interesting.
You just made up your own set of facts to paint this as a drive bye and Miller was the getaway driver

That’s not what happened
 

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All the legal experts saying he shouldn't be charged.

I guess then the school is helpless to do anything under that mythical rule, "A team will never enforce discipline for any issue short of full-on felonies "




These people are super pro-gun until some black person shots someone then everyone even close to the gun should get the needle.

Where are you getting that bullshyt from? Roy S. Johnson is one of the most highly respected Black journalists in Alabama and was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for his series on Black death.




hat do they mean about learn accountability, change the laws if you don't want young drunk punks to handle guns, in a lawful way.

Yeah, like that's gonna happen in fukking Alabama.




So that text weighs more in your mind than dash cam footage showing that he was headed that way prior to the text and footage showing Miles reaching in the backseat for the gun

You’re clearly trying to make Miller an accomplice to murder when law has done an investigation and found he was not a suspect

The text is the ONLY factor that is even relevant to the question of whether he knew he had the gun. The text by itself is enough to demonstrate he has the gun AND Miles wouldn't send that text in the first place if Miller didn't know about the gun.

Why are you going harder for him than his lawyer is? Even the lawyer is default admitting that Miller already knew the gun was there when he showed up. The fact that you're trying to deny that fact is your own admittal that it's a horrible piece of information.

Whenever the subject is Alabama you argue like you have rocks between your ears.
 

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If miles would’ve taken his shoe out of his bag and beat someone to death do y’all think Miller should be charged?


That's the stupidest fukking analogy I've heard yet.

"Bring me my gun cause someone needs to get it" on a random street at 1:40am is now reduced to "He just grabbed the shoe out of the bag, sir, I didn't even know the show was there and how could I know that's what he would use the shoe for?"
 

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I guess then the school is helpless to do anything under that mythical rule, "A team will never enforce discipline for any issue short of full-on felonies "






Where are you getting that bullshyt from? Roy S. Johnson is one of the most highly respected Black journalists in Alabama and was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for his series on Black death.






Yeah, like that's gonna happen in fukking Alabama.






The text is the ONLY factor that is even relevant to the question of whether he knew he had the gun. The text by itself is enough to demonstrate he has the gun AND Miles wouldn't send that text in the first place if Miller didn't know about the gun.

Why are you going harder for him than his lawyer is? Even the lawyer is default admitting that Miller already knew the gun was there when he showed up. The fact that you're trying to deny that fact is your own admittal that it's a horrible piece of information.

Whenever the subject is Alabama you argue like you have rocks between your ears.
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What should the school be doing?
 

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That's the stupidest fukking analogy I've heard yet.

"Bring me my gun cause someone needs to get it" on a random street at 1:40am is now reduced to "He just grabbed the shoe out of the bag, sir, I didn't even know the show was there and how could I know that's what he would use the shoe for?"
Yikes man you really need to stop making shyt up to try and crucify this kid
 

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I guess then the school is helpless to do anything under that mythical rule, "A team will never enforce discipline for any issue short of full-on felonies "






Where are you getting that bullshyt from? Roy S. Johnson is one of the most highly respected Black journalists in Alabama and was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for his series on Black death.






Yeah, like that's gonna happen in fukking Alabama.






The text is the ONLY factor that is even relevant to the question of whether he knew he had the gun. The text by itself is enough to demonstrate he has the gun AND Miles wouldn't send that text in the first place if Miller didn't know about the gun.

Why are you going harder for him than his lawyer is? Even the lawyer is default admitting that Miller already knew the gun was there when he showed up. The fact that you're trying to deny that fact is your own admittal that it's a horrible piece of information.

Whenever the subject is Alabama you argue like you have rocks between your ears.
I'm not talking about this very journalist per se, I'm saying FOX and all these other people talking about the case. He caught an unnecessary stray, my bad.

And a state school is not a private company like the NBA. What should he be disciplined for? Them taking him out will give the impression that the school believes that he should be charged with being involved in the murder. What type of message would that send that one state entity is completely disregarding a judicial decision from the state.


And no that won't happen in Alabama, so he did nothing illegal in that state. Now if the NCAA would ban him that would be another thing. But again in a murder case that would be kinda tricky. If it was assault or something that would be another thing.
 

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Yikes man you really need to stop making shyt up to try and crucify this kid
How about you read what actually happened

You guys keep saying this dumb shyt, but you can't come up with ONE detail about the case that I've made up, while I can list half-a-dozen false claims his defenders have already put into this thread.

I can't imagine choosing to define my identify by a college sports team, especially fukking Alabama, but taking your sports standom beyond the sport to shyt like this is beyond embarassing.



And a state school is not a private company like the NBA. What should he be disciplined for? Them taking him out will give the impression that the school believes that he should be charged with being involved in the murder. What type of message would that send that one state entity is completely disregarding a judicial decision from the state.

Once again, this makes no sense. Schools have suspended and even kicked out students for all sorts of shyt that wasn't a criminal offense. You can be kicked out of the school for sexual assault whether or not anyone files charges. You can be kicked out of school for fighting even if the police never bring a case. You can be kicked out of school for stealing whether or not the police get involved. But capital murder is the ONLY crime for which you can have involvement, and yet the school should do nothing unless the police do it first?

Please read the Code of Conduct student-athletes have to sign. There is NO requirement that something has to be illegal in order to result in discipline. You can be kicked off the team solely for posting something on social media they don't like. You can be kicked off the team solely for representing the university poorly.

1.7.5 Personal Conduct- Student-athletes are expected to conduct themselves, both on and off campus, in a manner that brings credit to the University and their teams. Student-athletes must be concerned with any behavior which might embarrass themselves, their teams, and/or the University. Student-athletes must be equally concerned with the following areas of student misconduct:

a) Lying and/or fraud
b) Academic dishonesty
c) Gambling
d) Hazing
e) Drug and alcohol abuse
f) Abuse of property
g) Disturbing the peace
h) Stealing, or being an accessory to theft
i) Forgery, alteration, or the misuse of documents or records
j) Unauthorized entry to or use of University or private property
k) Obstruction or disruption of teaching, research, administration, disciplinary procedures, or other University activities.
l) Physical abuse, threats of violence, or conduct that threatens the health or safety of another individual
m) Sexual harassment/sexual assault
n) Sale of athletics equipment issued by the athletics department or provided by commercial sponsors, to others outside buyers
The malicious use of online social networks such as derogatory language about any member of UAH community, demeaning statements about or threats to any third party, and incriminating photos or statements depicting hazing, sexual harassment, vandalism, stalking, underage drinking, illegal drug use or other inappropriate behavior will be subject to disciplinary action by the head coach and/or Director of Athletics if they gain knowledge of such violations. Sanctions may include written notification requiring the unacceptable content be removed, temporary suspension from the team, dismissal from the team and loss of athletic aid, if applicable.

(This is Alabama-Huntsville's code of conduct. Alabama-Tuscaloosa's is likely similar but I can't find if they've posted it online.)
 

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You guys keep saying this dumb shyt, but you can't come up with ONE detail about the case that I've made up, while I can list half-a-dozen false claims his defenders have already put into this thread.

I can't imagine choosing to define my identify by a college sports team, especially fukking Alabama, but taking your sports standom beyond the sport to shyt like this is beyond embarassing.





Once again, this makes no sense. Schools have suspended and even kicked out students for all sorts of shyt that wasn't a criminal offense. You can be kicked out of the school for sexual assault whether or not anyone files charges. You can be kicked out of school for fighting even if the police never bring a case. You can be kicked out of school for stealing whether or not the police get involved. But capital murder is the ONLY crime for which you can have involvement, and yet the school should do nothing unless the police do it first?

Please read the Code of Conduct student-athletes have to sign. There is NO requirement that something has to be illegal in order to result in discipline. You can be kicked off the team solely for posting something on social media they don't like. You can be kicked off the team solely for representing the university poorly.




(This is Alabama-Huntsville's code of conduct. Alabama-Tuscaloosa's is likely similar but I can't find if they've posted it online.)
What should he be suspended for?
 
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