Aint it funny how it took us about 3 years to realize that ASAP Rocky is vapid trash

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Rocky really made some of y'all angry :mjlol:

Live.Love.ASAP is more non-Houston than it is Houston.
Not angry at all. It was only a matter of time before people found out he was a flash in the pan. Don't act like he didnt build his hype from sounding like Houston/Memphis/Cleveland nikkaz. And Live Love ASAP sounded like a Houston tape. fukk is you talking about? He bit nikkaz from Houston flow and sound. You got to be trippin. Trilla, Houston Old Head, Purple Swag and Kissin Pink (the beginning chorus is even sampled from Big Pokey) All the slowed down chanting shyt is a toss up b/w Memphis and Houston. You can't be serious.
 

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Breh you were not with the wave, when Rocky released Live love that was pretty much perfect start to finish. That sound was so refreshing and his only trajectory seemed to be up from there.

Like he had absolutely MASSIVE potential but for some reason he really dumbed down his sound. I didnt even fukk with LVL like that for a long time because it felt like both clams and asap were not giving us the same shyt they were on Live love. Long Live was a solid follow up but nowhere near Live Love. fukkin Problems was a wack single and he hopped on more industry friendly beats.

If Rocky followed up with some heavy hitting Clams beats and brought the lyrical game up it would have been over



To imagine what could have been :mjcry:


Finally! someone fukking gets it!

What you said is EXACTLY what I expected from him: More Clams/Beautiful Lou/SGP/the guy who did Brand New Guy, same incredible charisma and flow, but LYRICAL GAME stepped up. I was so fukking excited for Rocky's debut album. I hadn't been that excited for a rap album since that Cuban Linx 2 snippet dropped.

I thought: "man... Clams Casino on radio! This shyt's gonna be crazy!"

And then Rocky/his team dropped the fukking ball.
 

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Not angry at all. It was only a matter of time before people found out he was a flash in the pan. Don't act like he didnt build his hype from sounding like Houston/Memphis/Cleveland nikkaz. And Live Love ASAP sounded like a Houston tape. fukk is you talking about? He bit nikkaz from Houston flow and sound. You got to be trippin. Trilla, Houston Old Head, Purple Swag and Kissin Pink (the beginning chorus is even sampled from Big Pokey) All the slowed down chanting shyt is a toss up b/w Memphis and Houston. You can't be serious.

name a single Houston tape that sounds like Live.Love.ASAP in its entirety. In fact, name a single Houston song that sounds like anything Clams Casino (Palace, Leaf, Bass, Demons, etc).

You didn't understand the fukking tape. Most of y'all didn't and this is why hip hop continues to be trash. The average fan of today chases mediocrity and can't appreciate when someone breaks the mold. If it isn't cosigned from a known person and doesn't fit into a familiar/comfortable image, it's not worth checking.

The genius of Live.Love.ASAP is that it's the marriage of almost all the regional styles in hip hop brought back to New York. Cats like Jay-Z, Masta Ace, Biggie and Camron/Dipset have flirted with other regions sounds but no one has done it as deeply as Yams/Rocky did on Live.Love.ASAP.
 
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name a single Houston tape that sounds like Live.Love.ASAP in its entirety. In fact, name a single Houston song that sounds like anything Clams Casino (Palace, Leaf, Bass, Demons, etc).

You didn't understand the fukking tape. Most of y'all didn't and this is why hip hop continues to be trash. The average fan of today chases mediocrity and can't appreciate when someone breaks the mold. If it isn't cosigned from a known person and doesn't fit into a familiar/comfortable image, it's not worth checking.

The genius of Live.Love.ASAP is that it's the marriage of almost all the regional styles in hip hop brought back to New York. Cats like Jay-Z, Masta Ace, Biggie and Camron/Dipset have flirted with other regions sounds but no one has done it as deeply as Yams/Rocky did on Live.Love.ASAP.
I forgot who I'm talking to. No matter what I say you gonna dispute it so let's just agree to disagree. I'll just say aint shyt genius about Live Love ASAP. That lean slowed down sound shyt been done so many times in Houston it aint even funny. nikka we birthed that shyt. He's just a Frankenstein nikka that takes bits and pieces from each region thats not NY and puts it in a blender, but as you can see after 2 albums he's just a 1-3 trick pony that gets repetitive and doesnt really say shyt. Hell he already done and struggled to drop that second album.
 

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name a single Houston tape that sounds like Live.Love.ASAP in its entirety. In fact, name a single Houston song that sounds like anything Clams Casino (Palace, Leaf, Bass, Demons, etc).

You didn't understand the fukking tape. Most of y'all didn't and this is why hip hop continues to be trash. The average fan of today chases mediocrity and can't appreciate when someone breaks the mold. If it isn't cosigned from a known person and doesn't fit into a familiar/comfortable image, it's not worth checking.

The genius of Live.Love.ASAP is that it's the marriage of almost all the regional styles in hip hop brought back to New York. Cats like Jay-Z, Masta Ace, Biggie and Camron/Dipset have flirted with other regions sounds but no one has done it as deeply as Yams/Rocky did on Live.Love.ASAP.
Exactly, even on shyt like Kissin Pink his delivery is very Max B-esque. Palace is NY as fukk sonically but he switches up into a midwest flow, it's an amalgamation of styles but dumb nikkas can't look past purple swag or a New York rapper being influence by other regions, like those same regions wern't heavily influence by NY, @Monoblock above taking issue with a dude from another region taking something that was birthed elsewhere & probably can't even see the irony in that when he reads this

I'll admit to being the average New Yorker who hated of Rocky in the past, but that was mostly because of the hipster shyt he represented which I despise about modern NYC, but there's no doubting that LLA is the best shyt to come out of NY in years.
 

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Had a phase back in school about 2010-2011 where I was on my stoner vibe/rockin dreads and only bumpin Wiz, Curren$y, and A$AP Rocky.

Fast forward I don't listen to any of those guys a third as much as I used to but of the three of them Rocky is the most obsolete. Hell I didn't even know he had made a follow up album until a few weeks ago and I still ain't checking. Curren$y and Wiz are still good for what they are but this dude is the epitome of mediocrity to me now.

:deadmanny:this. especially if you was from cali. that stoner/cloud rap wave with Wiz at the forefront was:whew:. . but it was a very quick phase for me that ended as soon as that weed plate rolling papers came out.
 

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He's not trash but you don't need 3 projects and more to figure out his music/verses are very vapid and dull
 

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Exactly, even on shyt like Kissin Pink his delivery is very Max B-esque. Palace is NY as fukk sonically but he switches up into a midwest flow, it's an amalgamation of & styles but dumb nikkas can't look past purple swag or a New York rapper being influence by other regions (like those same regions wern't heavily influence by NY)

I'll admit to being the average New Yorker who hated of Rocky in the past, but that was mostly because of the hipster shyt he represented which I despise about modern NYC, but there's no doubting that LLA is the best shyt to come out of NY in years.
We saying the same thing. I saw what he was trying to do I just didnt like it. Different strokes/opinions.
 

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Everything that's wrong with rap nowadays. You don't trust blogs genuinely raving about a kid who seems to be fresh talent unaffiliated with someone, yet you'd rather hear a new artist through a "pay for cosign" system established by a washed up known artist and his industry folk? All doing it for questionable motivation (to get paid).

The fact that Rocky came COMPLETELY out of left field and became one of the leaders of the new school overnight is testament to just how incredible Live.Love.ASAP is. It's actually one of the few times in last decade where music actually speaks for itself

Nobody is complaining because he didn't have some huge co sign. This nikka had one song out and was getting praised as the second coming of christ in 2 days. I saw how Chief Keef bubbled. I saw how Shmurda bubbled. Hell I even saw how Drake bubbled. This dude came out of no where without any real organic movement outside none industry blogs. Hes a plant and it was obvious. I tell you what tho. When that Goldie shyt flopped, he sure as hell got the biggest co signs ever for fukking problems
 

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so b/c he's from ny he has to rap on traditional ny production? he prolly grew up seeing guys like bun b, slim thug n paul wall on tv--i know i did-- and further explored and fell in love w/ the houston sound. he pays homage often. i hav no problem w/ this.
 

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I forgot who I'm talking to. No matter what I say you gonna dispute it so let's just agree to disagree. I'll just say aint shyt genius about Live Love ASAP. That lean slowed down sound shyt been done so many times in Houston it aint even funny. nikka we birthed that shyt. He's just a Frankenstein nikka that takes bits and pieces from each region thats not NY and puts it in a blender, but as you can see after 2 albums he's just a 1-3 trick pony that gets repetitive and doesnt really say shyt. Hell he already done and struggled to drop that second album.

You're backing down already?

Such copout language. You say some ridiculous shyt, I ask for receipts, then you say "well you won't like receipts anyway" :mjlol: Why wouldn't I? I'm the one that asked for them.

nikkas say "he jacked Houston wholesale" and every time I ask for examples, nikkas go mute. :mjlol: I wonder why that is

That lean slowed down sound shyt been done so many times in Houston it aint even funny. nikka we birthed that shyt.

I agree that y'all birthed the shyt. But if all you see in Live.Love.ASAP is lean slowed down sound, then you didn't understand the tape. real talk. While I respect Houston's contribution to the sound of Live.Love.ASAP, and it's a great one, there's way more to the tape than Houston.
 

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Two solid albums IMO. The tape was absolute fire tho.
 

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Nobody is complaining because he didn't have some huge co sign. This nikka had one song out and was getting praised as the second coming of christ in 2 days.

No.... that's not how it happened. Rocky's path is VERY different from Keef and Shmurda. Keef had Kanye's cosign. Shmurda had Jay-Z/Beys cosign and a gang of others. Their songs were being played in clubs.

Nobody was bumping Purple Swag in clubs. Peso here and there, but that was mostly AFTER Live.Love.ASAP had already dropped.

Besides, Keef and Shmurda are afterthoughts. You're still talking about Rocky 4 years later. And face it - he'll always be remembered for Live.Love.ASAP. He's done the one thing few rappers ever do - have a classic album.

This dude came out of no where without any real organic movement outside none industry blogs.

it was highly organic in the sense that the people who wrote about Rocky really fukked with his music. Dude was a total nobody on the internet with great music.

Rocky's come up is the "Internet music democracy" we all say should happen and rarely does.

Hes a plant and it was obvious.

but Kendrick and J Cole arent? The guys you never knew existed till Dre and Jay-Z told you about them? :mjlol:

Here you are worried about Rocky being a plant while probably bumping two of the most cosign-dependent rappers of all time.
 

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Finally! someone fukking gets it!

What you said is EXACTLY what I expected from him: More Clams/Beautiful Lou/SGP/the guy who did Brand New Guy, same incredible charisma and flow, but LYRICAL GAME stepped up. I was so fukking excited for Rocky's debut album. I hadn't been that excited for a rap album since that Cuban Linx 2 snippet dropped.

I thought: "man... Clams Casino on radio! This shyt's gonna be crazy!"

And then Rocky/his team dropped the fukking ball.


this happens with every artists transition to mainstream. Rememeber he tried to take the mixtape sound mainstream with Goldie but it didnt work so back to the studio and you get fukking Problems.

they get busy touring/press so the content gets worse

the investers get in their pockets so they have to make a more radio friendly sound.

have you not caught up?
 
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