After reading this NYT article on the Nagasaki bombing, U.S. was truly pathetic

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Obviously theres the geneva convention, but in war its basically anything goes, but bombing and killing civilian populations is one of the most cowardice acts. Like a fist fight and you tryna kick dude in the n*ts. :snoop:
 

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So since the main US argument here seems to be "The Japanese did horrible things, they got what they deserved" why didn't the US drop a nuclear bomb on Germany?

pretty sure it wasnt ready

its unfortunate but the blame should be placed on the japanese government. consequences of war
 

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So since the main US argument here seems to be "The Japanese did horrible things, they got what they deserved" why didn't the US drop a nuclear bomb on Germany?


they hadn't even test dropped the bomb yet...


  1. Victory in Europe Day, generally known as V-E Day, VE Day or simply V Day was the public holiday celebrated on 8 May 1945 (7 May in Commonwealth realms) to mark the formal acceptance by the Allies of World War II of Nazi Germany's unconditional surrender of its armed forces.
  1. At 0530, 16 July 1945, in a remote section of the Alamogordo Air Base, New Mexico, the first full-scale test was made of the implosion type atomic fission bomb. For the first time in history there was a nuclear explosion. And what an explosion!
 

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they hadn't even test dropped the bomb yet...


  1. Victory in Europe Day, generally known as V-E Day, VE Day or simply V Day was the public holiday celebrated on 8 May 1945 (7 May in Commonwealth realms) to mark the formal acceptance by the Allies of World War II of Nazi Germany's unconditional surrender of its armed forces.
  1. At 0530, 16 July 1945, in a remote section of the Alamogordo Air Base, New Mexico, the first full-scale test was made of the implosion type atomic fission bomb. For the first time in history there was a nuclear explosion. And what an explosion!

Yeah @Juven hinted at that too, I stand corrected. I wonder if the US would've dropped a nuclear bomb on a european country though.
 

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The whole point is that being victimized does not make you morally justified to victimize another. The inverse is true; that being a perpetrator of a heinous crime does not make it justified for someone else to commit a heinous crime against you. Japan obviously has a lot of blood on their hands, but that doesn't negate the inherent wrongness of America dropping the Atomic bomb on them.


There is no wrongness at that point. At that point, after Japan's actions IN WAR, you literally just do whatever you can to win. fukk them.
 

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Yeah @Juven hinted at that too, I stand corrected. I wonder if the US would've dropped a nuclear bomb on a european country though.

I think in that day and age it would have gone down. They really didn't even fully understand the effects of radiation at that time... hell they had American troops go do exercises and stand in blast zones. You could also look at the mass scale bombings of civilian areas and in particular the bombing of Dresden where I've seen the toll listed as between 20k-100k+.

Of course we could speculate that one white culture wouldn't do that to another...

:yeshrug:
 

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Obviously theres the geneva convention, but in war its basically anything goes, but bombing and killing civilian populations is one of the most cowardice acts. Like a fist fight and you tryna kick dude in the n*ts. :snoop:
not to mention racism was de facto back then. The US had no problem doing it.

We locked up any japanese descendant because we couldnt trust any of them.

shyt was a different time.
 

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I don't see how you can hold everyone in entire populations directly responsible for the actions of the State :why: at least several thousands of those killed (murdered) probably disagreed with much of the Japanese governments actions, no?
Germany was sinking random ships carrying grain and fruits.

Stop it already.
 

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not to mention racism was de facto back then. The US had no problem doing it.

We locked up any japanese descendant because we couldnt trust any of them.

shyt was a different time.

i agree it was a different time, but obviously that doesnt make it right. they locked up people of Japanese descent, but not germans on the east coast, who were sabotaging all sort of things :mjpls:
 

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There is no wrongness at that point. At that point, after Japan's actions IN WAR, you literally just do whatever you can to win. fukk them.

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." -
Friedrich Nietzsche

By abdicating any moral consideration in their response to Japan's atrocities, the US forfeited the right to claim moral imperative in the first place.
 
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