After Dr. Dre, RZA & Premier comes Erick Sermon as one of the best Hip Hop producers

[Aje]

no denying E. Sermon did his thing and was one of my favorite producers growing up. It must be stated, though, with the difficulty/increasing cost of clearing samples, there was a clear inverse correlation with the quality of his music. He doesn't chop up samples like Preem does and he sure can't make don't non-sampled beats (consistently). Btw, was "4, 3, 2, 1" non-sampled? Because that was a dope beat.

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

he payed his respect to him, said he was a great businessman, that's it


Quik is another league compared to Eric Sermon

Yeah but he said not just because which meant as well as those records along with the business advice he gave him. And then Quik went on to say that the 12'' of "So Whatcha Saying", "was one of the greatest-sounding 12”s of all time" in his opinion.

Quik is talented and is one of my favorite producers as well but Sermon is the better producer in my opinion.

 

[Ruby'sRevolver]

E-Dub is dope, I don't know where exactly I would rank him but he's definitely one of the best producers in hip hop history. I'm a big fan of his shyt from 94-99, he was killing it back then.

 

[WhiteDawg3000]

did dude damage his head/get a severe concussion when he got pushed out of that window???



I haven't heard much from him, since that incident

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

no denying E. Sermon did his thing and was one of my favorite producers growing up. It must be stated, though, with the difficulty/increasing cost of clearing samples, there was a clear inverse correlation with the quality of his music. He doesn't chop up samples like Preem does and he sure can't make don't non-sampled beats (consistently). Btw, was "4, 3, 2, 1" non-sampled? Because that was a dope beat.

That's why I said in my thread title and not verbatim, the greatest Hip Hop producers rank in this order:

1. Dr. Dre
2. RZA
3. Dj Premier
4. Erick Sermon

The song "4,3,2,1" samples both LL's "Rock The Bells" and the Beastie Boys' "You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Party".


Erick Sermon's production work is undeniable. Dude's a legend

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

did dude damage his head/get a severe concussion when he got pushed out of that window???



I haven't heard much from him, since that incident

News of that came about in 01' and since then he's released two albums, one in 02' and another in 04'.

 

[BlackDroog]

I feel like Parrish, Reggie, Eric and Keith always stood out more on Eric Sermon beats than the beats themselves. Basically saying his production is cool, but it was the MC that made the songs stand out. I never heard an eric sermon beat and was blown away by the music...nor have i ever been interested in hearing any instrumentals.


With that said, IMO...Alchemist, Kanye, Havoc, DJ Muggs, Just Blaze >>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Sermon.

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

Erick Sermon's beats and production is so clear and funky.

 

[NYK Loyalist]

Erick in the 90's was probably top 5 but all time I would say he'd be probably somewhere between 10-15. Music was a great song but post 1998 that was the only song he put out that I loved. After the def squad album everything he has put out has been pretty disappointing

 

[THE K-MAN]

I wouldn't put him over DJ quik, not even close actually

E Double>>>>

 

[Aje]

That's why I said in my thread title and not verbatim, the greatest Hip Hop producers rank in this order:

1. Dr. Dre
2. RZA
3. Dj Premier
4. Erick Sermon

The song "4,3,2,1" samples both LL's "Rock The Bells" and the Beastie Boys' "You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Party".


Erick Sermon's production work is undeniable. Dude's a legend

Those samples were only vocals samples, though (I understand you still have to clear them). To what I was referring was the actually instrumental: were there any samples in the beat that helped create the sound. I love that beat and still remember hearing it on Power 99 in Philly as a kid and had the .

And, naturally, you're entitled to your opinion. I wouldn't kill you for that order of producers. I, personally, wouldn't place E dub at #4 despite his stellar run from the jump to the late 90s. But, this discussion is akin to arguing about which flavor of ice cream is better. Can't argue taste...

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

Those samples were only vocals samples, though (I understand you still have to clear them). To what I was referring was the actually instrumental: were there any samples in the beat that helped create the sound. I love that beat and still remember hearing it on Power 99 in Philly as a kid and had the .

And, naturally, you're entitled to your opinion. I wouldn't kill you for that order of producers. I, personally, wouldn't place E dub at #4 despite his stellar run from the jump to the late 90s. But, this discussion is akin to arguing about which flavor of ice cream is better. Can't argue taste...

As far as the instrumental goes, I can't remember. I haven't owned a physical copy of that LL album in years.

And yeah, I hear what you're saying as far as the ranking of producers.

 

[Kimo_bud]

Dj quik is better than all those guys in the heading

 

[Aje]

Dj quik is better than all those guys in the heading

not saying I don't agree with you, but, as a kid growing up in Jersey, the only west coast music to which I was exposed consisted of NWA, Cube, Cypress Hill, Too $hort, and a little E40. Could you cite some examples of Quik tracks you would consider dope?

 

[Obtain Knowledge]

Here's Erick Sermon in the studio making a beat