Africans and Inherited Behaviors

[Bawon Samedi]

I just did. How can you ask me to make an argument when the "argument" is already in your post. Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt are all examples of black cilivations with written texts prior to Islamic presence on the continent. I also proceeded to include some more without literacy who also can be included. What are you trying to push? That "written language was the lone gauge of an civilization? It is not. Never has been. I fail to see what you're point you're trying to make other than "Islam civilized Africans". I would rather you just come out and say it so we can laugh at just how mentally lost and pathetic most black muslims are.

Reread my post:

SHOW US non-Muslims outside of Ethiopia, Ancient Egypt and Ancient Nubia have well educated/literate cities pre-colonization. I dare you.

So far you did not. And I never claimed Islam civilized Africa you idiot. I made a point that Muslim Africans on average were more literate than non-Muslim Africans which is a fact. Unless you think being literate is the sole thing that makes a civilization. You trying to claim I'm Muslim only makes you look more desperate.

 

[Poitier]

the widely accepted notion that geography had the greatest role to play in Africa's development (or lack thereof). So much so that, even if Europeans had never divided up the continent, it likely still would not have ended up as advanced as Western Europe. Not even close.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Unless this is a lame attempt at dikkriding Islam, why even make the point? Islamic/Arabized Africans literacy clearly did not do much to prevent them being overrun (by BOTH Arabs and Europeans), in fact seems like the lesser ones fared better in some cases. You mentioned some ridiculous point about "technology" and "knowledge" as if some Moor could have just trotted up to Europe and come back with plans on how to make a Ballista

I think this is a concept thats too varied for people to grasp. Europeans did not merely just come to Africa and takeover. I many cases they were defeated, outmaneuvered and forced to retreat. In many cases they had to either outplay or form alliances with different tribal groups to take down more powerful rulers. There is no kind of "blame" that can be portioned and you little comment was nothing more than attempt to try and place some kind of intellectual inferiority as some kind of justification. You're a muslim, just admit it.

Still no valuable evidence but projections. Out...

 

[Red Shield]

You have Africans in denial....it really isn't worth the effort entertaining them.

Colonizer economies were all integrated even if the played musical chairs with said territories so you are correct.

That said....

Had Africans not let Europeans into the interior, we would not be having this discussion.
Had Africans not willfully sold people as commodities, we would not be having this discussion.
Had Africans been curious about the engineering of foreign technologies and not European trinkets, then we would not be having this discussion.

All this talk of innovation and warfare making Europe some farfetched indestructible force is nothing more than a ruse to ward off accountability.

You listen long enough and yeah..... that's really what it is

 

[Red Shield]

True, but Europe was only able to industrialize because of the free labor they enjoyed due to African miscalculation.
In the 1400s, if West Africans say no to trading humans, don't let Europeans penetrate the interior, or trade for technical knowledge....do you truly believe we end up with the same outcome? Not I.

Hell fukking no we don't get the same outcome. Slavery alone was a huge boon to too many western nations..

 

[Free White & 21]

The same behaviors Africans display now were the same behaviors occurring in the past. Discuss.

Some South African in the other thread essentially said “African American issues are a West African issue - leave us out of it”

Yea... keep that up

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Some South African in the other thread essentially said “African American issues are a West African issue - leave us out of it”

Yea... keep that up

I know who you're talking about. YET the same person acts like he knows everything about American race relations while he lives in South Africa.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Good post! I would say my favorite post on the Coli as of right now. I really believe if we were to get rid of the bolded then we as people of African descent would literally prison fukk every single group on this planet. We have the physical and intellectual potential to do so. But mother nature gave us c00ns to balance things out. We as people of African descent are the oldest/first humans on this planet. The more I do bio-anthropology on Africans and people of African descent the more I think flat out that people of African descent are the TRUE master race. I know this is twisted and bad thinking but I really think this. We age slower. Scientifically proven. More resisted to the sun(skin cancer or sun burns). Scientifically proven. We are the most diverse in phenotypes. Scientifically proven. Africans have more genetic diversity than say people from New York city. Scientifically proven. Other "races" are nothing more than just genetic children from us. Scientifically proven. All of our genetic traits are dominate and not genetically mutated recessive genes. Scientifically proven. Black babies mature faster. Scientifically proven. Black men have more testosterone and black women more estrogen. Scientifically proven.

We dominate the more intensified sports and not sissy sports like golf, lacrosse or swimming(we're getting there). Our bodies are naturally toned. We even on the creative and right brain side we dominate with our music that only influence all. We also survived one of the deadliest slave trades in human history and cultivated a new home for ourselves. In some ways fighting for it.

On the intellectual side we had the earliest civilizations. Created the great pyramids which are a mathematical achievement. Managed to enter the iron age independently. Sahel West Africa was the educational center of the Muslim world and possibly the entire world. We were doing cataract surgery long before Europeans knew how to in Sahel West Africa. I can go on and on but I will say modern day blacks like Nigerians are example of showcasing our intellectual potential, Nigerians who are said to be smartest group in America.

Seriously people of African descent are one of a kind. But...We have an error and that is the bolded which holds us back from dominating this planet. I know this may sound crazy but did mother nature do this on purpose? Again I know it sounds crazy but... This is why I still think its important to study history especially Al Jahiz the supremacy of blacks over whites to know where we went wrong. We went from Ancient Egypt, Kush, Askum, Ajuran, Ghana, Mali, and the Berber Moors who dominated non-Africans in some shape or form to our modern state with the bolded. And I'm not talking about white supremacy.

Send me a PDF of this Al Jahiz book, breh. Much appreciated

 

[Grano-Grano]

What the heck are you talking about? This post is coming off as someone who is barely literate. Timbuktu was ISLAMIC. It was founded by Muslim Tuaregs and then developed further by Muslim Mandinkas. It was widely known as an Islamic scholar city. What are you talking about? And African Muslims did not go to Ethiopia for knowledge. The heck did you get that from? They went to cities like Timbuktu.

You forgot Zeila and Harar in East Africa.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Send me a PDF of this Al Jahiz book, breh. Much appreciated

Have to look.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Have to look.

Take your time breh

 

[IllmaticDelta]

This thread is not primarily concerned with democracy nor do i disagree with your statement merely refuting the faulty logic of a cac pretending to be a Ugandan on here.

lol...what poster was that?

 

[Poitier]

lol...what poster was that?

I believe I was referring to Clean Cut

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I believe I was referring to Clean Cut

What Clean Cut is a cac???

 

[Poitier]

What Clean Cut is a cac???

this was before he showed he was rwandan