African/West Indian biases against AAs = sad

[2Quik4UHoes]

Despite all the negatives in American history, Black-Americans should still be proud to be Black-American. They have fought, killed, shed blood and died for the country and are stakeholders in the country.

Regarding Pan-Africanism, I somewhat agree that it still has chance with globalization pushing forward. But I think rather than focus on political and economic Pan-Africanism African people should focus on cultural Pan-Africanism. That was what the late great Cheikh Anta Diop was doing with the books he was writing. He wrote books on the historical, cultural, spiritual and linguistic unity of African people.

I can't disagree with that, so long as it's pride in the black experience rather than pride in the hell house that was created for them to live in.

I think where it begins is cultural. Notice when Pan Africanism picked up steam it was mainly a cultural phenomenon, Black Power, Black is Beautiful, Rastafarianism, Afrocentricity, all of it is an idea of linking the cultures of blacks on this side with the Africans back home. If you build that bridge, you can do economic next, then follow with political if necessary. But its pretty subjective cuz many people can have their ideas on Pan Africanism. Personally, I think it should be a support system for all blacks similar to what Jews do where we help one another through economic opportunities to better each others lives. We all go to other groups for help but never to each other and it seems foolish to me, how can we talk ad nauseum about their differences while hoping to earn a white dollar, or maybe get that chinese contract to build some shyt, etc. Blacks in America alone have immense spending power, Africa has its millionaires and billionaires, and this is all before leaving out a huge portion of the black population in the Caribbean and central/south America.

It definitely has to start with culture and real shyt, the reconciliation if need be between Africans and Black people in regards to slavery. If whites won't address the real damage done then we should at least do that.

 

[Poitier]

Nope, you said every last one of us are the envy of "Blacks" (AA's). You make ignorant generalizations out of nowhere because TS showed repentance and shame regarding the attitudes of SOME Africans/Caribbeans in his community and you somehow felt compelled by that to spew xenophobic, ethnocentric vomit at all other blacks.

"You do that much hating, in general, you're jealous imo"

^^I agree bro that's why I'm more than certain about your distaste for foreign blacks .

And Africans have been called "black" and have been self identifying as "black" forever. You're going to need a new word to distinguish yourself.

There ain't a single thing to be jealous of a modern African about.
It's not Xenophobia if the hate is rational. If anything, it's Xenophobic, ethnocentric for an African to call Blacks "lazy, uneducated, thugs." We lost our history, what did you lose?
Most Blacks can forgive but we don't forget. It won't be one big happy family, if you think you can have a seat at the table for something you don't belong to. Stay in your lane.
Call yourselves whatever you want.You definitely not one of us and never will be. You have to abandon your culture and pick up ours just to function in this country.

nikka, you sound STUPID AS fukk. Sit your ignorant ass down before I makes change.

Gnat, you're on the Internet talking about "making change" out of me with maybe the dumbest "Afrocentric" avatar that a person could have. Save your corny "ideology" for dusty, broke nikkaz who talk about "Pan-Africanism".

 

[Mowgli]

Ol, we the good blacks ass nikkas.

 

[emoney]

And you have the nerve to claim you don't hate Africans . You have issues with us but you're too much of a fakkit to just admit it. Between the bolded and those insipid, unprovoked "jealousy" comments it's painfully obvious how you really feel .

Kingdoms like Dahomey and Oyo sold other Africans for commerce and that's disgusting but the vast majority of slaves were just kidnapped by Europeans. That and a significant chunk of Africa had nothing to do with slavery.

A Majority of slaves came from the Kongo and Angola tho

Kingdoms like Dahomey and Oyo mostly sold their own because those two kingdoms in particular never ruled over neighbouring tribes.

You also have the Akan who break down into sub-divisions and were conquering each other and selling each other.

I think you need to re-study the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

Most tribes being sold into slavery were being sold by people of their same stock and ethnic group.

 

[Northern Son]

I don't understand why some of yall are not understanding where @Poitier is coming from. I clearly get him.

Black-Americans or African-Americans (whatever you prefer) are their own tribe, a new tribe and they should be respected and acknowledged as such. He's trying to say they have a culture and history (although new and still developing) that was born and bred here. I think Blacks coming from Africa, the Carribbean, UK or anywhere else need to understand this and get aligned with the direction they are going in...because this is their home. Stop being so antagonistic towards them.

Fair enough I completely respect that. I was off base talking about divide and conquer as some AA are simply not pan-African and it's their right to choose not to be.

But see it's the unsolicited attacks and baseless assumptions about all other blacks that I take exception with. Saying every black person outside of America envy's AA is just ignorant nonsense and complete arrogance. @Poitier is entitled to that belief but he takes it a step too far when he insists "it's all love" and "I love and respect Africans" like a fukkboi right after shytting on us left right and center for absolutely no reason. That's just bytch made, pathetic behavior . You can say you don't feel a connection to Africans and other blacks without putting them down. What's the point in saying "whites look down on your people more than they do ours" as if that's some sort of badge of honor?

As far as blacks from Africa and the Caribbean, not very many people here if any are espousing the rotten attitudes of some of the immigrants that come to America. The whole thread is about TS' disapproval of that behavior. I agree with TS and Poitier in that regard.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Fair enough I completely respect that. I was off base talking about divide and conquer as some AA are simply not pan-African and it's their right to choose not to be.

But see it's the unsolicited attacks and baseless assumptions about all other blacks that I take exception with. Saying every black person outside of America envy's AA is just ignorant nonsense and complete arrogance. @Poitier is entitled to that belief but he takes it a step too far when he insists "it's all love" and "I love and respect Africans" like a fukkboi right after shytting on us left right and center for absolutely no reason. That's just bytch made, pathetic behavior . You can say you don't feel a connection to Africans and other blacks without putting them down. What's the point in saying "whites look down on your people more than they do ours" as if that's some sort of badge of honor?

As far as blacks from Africa and the Caribbean, not very many people here if any are espousing the rotten attitudes of some of the immigrants that come to America. The whole thread is about TS' disapproval of that behavior. I agree with TS and Poitier in that regard.

That shyt made me lol in real life. My grandfather and great grandfather's on my dad's side was slaughtering cacs to maintain their independence in the face of chemical warfare, planes dropping bombs, all kinds of shyt but we wasn't and we still ain't goin for that cac > black bullshyt. Harlem stood up for Ethiopians in the 1930s to show support, Haiti was prolly the only place that protested Italy's behavior. I truly don't give a fukk what whites think cuz my father and rasta fam taught me this from an early age. Africans that understand their blackness and their true history and what it means in this society practically look down on cacs and embrace all black people. fukk Babylon, we got a whole continent to go to when we done gettin our swindle on here.

I can't remember dude name from Roots that had to school Kunta on how to be a slave, but I swear dude reminded me of cuz when he said that shyt about Africans. nikka, Africans and AA's intermingle in the DMV like it ain't shyt and neither culture is compromised in the process. All the girls I was ever serious with was AA, the African friends I do have was all raised around nikkaz so we all act the same, got hemmed up by the cops the same way, nikkaz catch cases, all that shyt but people wanna claim difference merely cuz I can trace my line directly and speak my mother tongue but the next brotha can't, this thread is like one big ass generalization shyt's disgusting. Like my first reply in this thread said, cacs won like shyt.

 

[rantanamo]

The africans that come over here usually made it here because they were "go-getters".

they hate seeing people being unproductive

/end thread.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

/end thread.

Yeah that's prolly one of the most important points of the thread. A lot of the Africans that are here are the best and brightest from their respective countries. Some even go on to carry on the same prestigious positions they held back home.

One thing that isn't address is first experiences and how that influences future opinions. Consider this, your first few Africans from say Ghana come here to live. They'll remain in contact with the family back home like all Africans do, within this time those first experiences between them and Black people here is important because those same experiences are passed on to the family which is then passed on to the community in a more minute way. It's almost like extra reinforcement for the media shown in Africa, my parents always told me Black people from America were depicted as criminals and wild people in the media just the same as Africans are portrayed here for Black people. This is something that goes both ways, whether its a conscious intentional behavior or not is irrelevant cuz the fact that it's a real phenomenon at all is a problem.

 

[DaRealness]

Good points in this thread.

And while we're at it, some of y'all need to stop shytting on blacks from the UK too.....

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

There ain't a single thing to be jealous of a modern African about.
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Gnat, you're on the Internet talking about "making change" out of me with maybe the dumbest "Afrocentric" avatar that a person could have. Save your corny "ideology" for dusty, broke nikkaz who talk about "Pan-Africanism".

You are the epitome of a LOST nikka. Go and watch Hidden Colors or read a fukking book so you can gain some pride for yourself. Its clear with this negative and defeatist mentality your life more than likely isn't shyt.

 

[JBoy]

Y'all are falling for this Poitier dude's bait wait too easily

 

[frush11]

Only in America do black people look at West Indians/Africans as separate entities. If you're black, you're black. It doesn't matter where you were born.


Here in the UK, everyone just gets along together and prejudice only rears its ugly head when dating is involved

Lies for a long time, there was always a little bit of strife between Africans and Caribs, particularly Yardies and Nigerians in England

 

[EA]

Lies for a long time, there was always a little bit of strife between Africans and Caribs, particularly Yardies and Nigerians in England

In my parents' day and maybe the early 90's but as I've grown up, I've never witnessed genuine contempt between Africans and Caribbeans and I went to a school where 80% of us were black. There will always be banter but it stops there.

 

[Poitier]

@Poitier is entitled to that belief but he takes it a step too far when he insists "it's all love" and "I love and respect Africans" like a fukkboi right after shytting on us left right and center for absolutely no reason.

Did you even read the thread? There were atleast 5 different African users who came into the thread who claimed that Blacks were "lazy, uneducated, street thugs." You can claim Pan-Africanism all you want, but if you aren't Black don't speak on our problems, issues, and culture with condescension. I don't see how that's absolutely "no reason."
I'm cool with OP FUNERAL, my initial post was in reference to the fukkin thread topic "Africans and West Indian Biases Against Blacks." You just want to whine and complain about nothing.

You are the epitome of a LOST nikka. Go and watch Hidden Colors or read a fukking book so you can gain some pride for yourself. Its clear with this negative and defeatist mentality your life more than likely isn't shyt.

Bruh, you're dusty. I only take PRIDE in the Africans whose families came off them American slave ships.

Good points in this thread.

And while we're at it, some of y'all need to stop shytting on blacks from the UK too.....

London Blacks seem to be the easiest for us Americans to click with for some strange reason....

That shyt made me lol in real life. My grandfather and great grandfather's on my dad's side was slaughtering cacs to maintain their independence in the face of chemical warfare, planes dropping bombs, all kinds of shyt but we wasn't and we still ain't goin for that cac > black bullshyt. Harlem stood up for Ethiopians in the 1930s to show support, Haiti was prolly the only place that protested Italy's behavior. I truly don't give a fukk what whites think cuz my father and rasta fam taught me this from an early age. Africans that understand their blackness and their true history and what it means in this society practically look down on cacs and embrace all black people. fukk Babylon, we got a whole continent to go to when we done gettin our swindle on here.

I can't remember dude name from Roots that had to school Kunta on how to be a slave, but I swear dude reminded me of cuz when he said that shyt about Africans. nikka, Africans and AA's intermingle in the DMV like it ain't shyt and neither culture is compromised in the process. All the girls I was ever serious with was AA, the African friends I do have was all raised around nikkaz so we all act the same, got hemmed up by the cops the same way, nikkaz catch cases, all that shyt but people wanna claim difference merely cuz I can trace my line directly and speak my mother tongue but the next brotha can't, this thread is like one big ass generalization shyt's disgusting. Like my first reply in this thread said, cacs won like shyt.

Yeah, but for every DMV, there's a New York or an Atlanta or a Miami. All of those places have clearly defined and segregated African diasporas, whether it be Ethiopians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Blacks, Dominicans, etc. Using DMV in itself is an exception not the standard. An outlier doesn't mean probability.

 

[DaRealness]

In my parents' day and maybe the early 90's but as I've grown up, I've never witnessed genuine contempt between Africans and Caribbeans and I went to a school where 80% of us were black. There will always be banter but it stops there.

It's definitely better nowadays than what it was. I remember when Jamaicans in particular and Africans (especially Nigerians) generally couldn't stand each other, but it's changed a lot now.