African American student Akintunde Ahmad has 5.0 GPA, Scores 2100 on SAT

[Majestyx]

as a fellow nigerian if i came across somebody with an igbo name and they weren't really igbo or following the culture I would question what the point of that was. to make some silly statement?

if asked them what the meaning of their name was and they couldn't tell me or break it down for me then it would just seem more like they were trying to make a statement.

i do agree, if you take a name you need to know what it means and be able to break it down. i dont think that if they didnt know the meaning that the statement is silly tho, just means that they are ignorant and need to be educated. BUT i've never met anyoene who chose a yoruban name that ddnt know what it meant on multiple levels.

 

[Blackking]

no im not kidding, and yeah i am definitely generalizing, i am making broad general statements, of course there are exceptions to it, but overall black people have an anti academic culture compared to the mainstream culture and other groups

i explained why I make those types of generallizations i this post http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7943845/

i suppose you can make the argument that american culture is ignorant, i wouldnt disagree but im curious why you generalize americans after making a speech about not generalizing

So you like misunderstanding social economic situation and over playing the affects of Music?

The world knows that the culture is ignorant... Especially Pro-west American black men who like to claim that only black youth are ignorant.

 

[Blackking]

as a fellow nigerian if i came across somebody with an igbo name and they weren't really igbo or following the culture I would question what the point of that was. to make some silly statement?

if asked them what the meaning of their name was and they couldn't tell me or break it down for me then it would just seem more like they were trying to make a statement.

He probably does know. His parents are conscious... he's conscious... Would you ask someone who clearly is fresh off the plane if they .. "know what their name means" ?? Probably not.... you wouldn't make assumptions about their ignorance and need to make a "statement" because they are African. Why would he prefer to have a Crakker name just so that people won't think he's weird.

 

[theworldismine13]

So you like misunderstanding social economic situation and over playing the affects of Music?

The world knows that the culture is ignorant... Especially Pro-west American black men who like to claim that only black youth are ignorant.

music is just a part of the culture, my main point is about the culture not music, the point about boosie or rap in general is not that if you listen to rap music you will get hypnotized and turn into an uneducated zombie overnight, my point about boosie and rap music is that it represents the anti academic aspects of african american culture, and its something we have to eliminate and let go of so that black people can move forward

boosie represents an intellectual and economic dead end of african american culture, its not something that we can use to build and to dominate, that is the basic problem with it

i wasnt disputing you assertion that american culture is ignorant, i was just pointing out that you are generalizing

you said i was wrong to generalize, and i explained why in this particular case i think its ok to generalize, im just curious as to why you think its ok to generalize american culture as ignorant? so if there is a non ignorant american does that invalidate your assertion?

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

He probably does know. His parents are conscious... he's conscious... Would you ask someone who clearly is fresh off the plane if they .. "know what their name means" ?? Probably not.... you wouldn't make assumptions about their ignorance and need to make a "statement" because they are African. Why would he prefer to have a Crakker name just so that people won't think he's weird.

what do you mean by conscious? you afrocentrist are funny, there is nothing conscious about this. last part makes no sense most people fresh off the plane stick to their native names and most people who have european/jewish names base it around christianity/religion

 

[Blackking]

music is just a part of the culture, my main point is about the culture not music, the point about boosie or rap in general is not that if you listen to rap music you will get hypnotized and turn into an uneducated zombie overnight, my point about boosie and rap music is that it represents the anti academic aspects of african american culture, and its something we have to eliminate let go of so that black people can move forward

boosie represents an intellectual and economic dead end of african american culture, its not something that we can use to build and to dominate, that is the basic problem with it

i wasnt disputing you assertion that american culture is ignorant, i was just pointing out that you are generalizing

you said i was wrong to generalize, and i explained why in this particular case i think its ok to generalize, im just curious as to why you think its ok to generalize american culture as ignorant? so if there is a non ignorant american does that invalidate your assertion?[DOUBLEPOST=1397446970][/DOUBLEPOST]


music is just a part of the culture, my main point is about the culture not music, the point about boosie or rap in general is not that if you listen to rap music you will get hypnotized and turn into an uneducated zombie overnight, my point about boosie and rap music is that it represents the anti academic aspects of african american culture, and its something we have to eliminate let go of so that black people can move forward

boosie represents an intellectual and economic dead end of african american culture, its not something that we can use to build and to dominate, that is the basic problem with it

i wasnt disputing you assertion that american culture is ignorant, i was just pointing out that you are generalizing

you said i was wrong to generalize, and i explained why in this particular case i think its ok to generalize, im just curious as to why you think its ok to generalize american culture as ignorant? so if there is a non ignorant american does that invalidate your assertion?

Boosie doesn't actually represent anything. Are there more than 5 black college kids that don't listen to rap? College is something you value right? College is not anti academic.... So if our educated youth are listening to rap then ........rap or what it represents must be inconsequential.

Point is... there is no anti academic black culture... there is an ignorant anti academic American culture... and some blacks are more prone to that disease than others. You fix that with businesses and resources not books. There are educated felons..

 

[Blackking]

what do you mean by conscious? you afrocentrist are funny, there is nothing conscious about this. last part makes no sense most people fresh off the plane stick to their native names and most people who have european/jewish names base it around christianity/religion

Well,

I'm not an afrocentrist. I'm pro black, and by that I mean American Black.

But there is something conscious about his parents ensuring that he doesn't have a slave or crakker name. The fact that they are aware enough to do that means something. Obviously their ancestors came from Africa so he wouldn't be named Hunter Conner Mcirish or some shyt like that.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

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But there is something conscious about his parents ensuring that he doesn't have a slave or crakker name. The fact that they are aware enough to do that means something. Obviously their ancestors came from Africa so he wouldn't be named Hunter Conner Mcirish or some shyt like that.

There is nothing conscious about this you guys are just making it seems like it's bigger than what it really is. it's not

go to nigeria and tell them this most of them will think it's just weird unless you say you follow the culture then it's a different story.

 

[theworldismine13]

Boosie doesn't actually represent anything. Are there more than 5 black college kids that don't listen to rap? College is something you value right? College is not anti academic.... So if our educated youth are listening to rap then ........rap or what it represents must be inconsequential.

Point is... there is no anti academic black culture... there is an ignorant anti academic American culture... and some blacks are more prone to that disease than others. You fix that with businesses and resources not books. There are educated felons..

How can boosie not represent anything? Boosie represents himself, his community and how he looks at the world, for you to say boosie doesn't represent anything is just dumb

I think I already explained that I was making a generalization, and you have to look at the overall impact not particular cases

You keep saying that Americans are ignorant, so if there is an American that isn't ignorant does that invalidate your statement?

 

[bigDeeOT]

Boosie doesn't actually represent anything. Are there more than 5 black college kids that don't listen to rap? College is something you value right? College is not anti academic.... So if our educated youth are listening to rap then ........rap or what it represents must be inconsequential.

Point is... there is no anti academic black culture... there is an ignorant anti academic American culture... and some blacks are more prone to that disease than others. You fix that with businesses and resources not books. There are educated felons..

Boosie is anti-academic because he represents a lifestyle that rejects the value in getting an education.

Black people as a whole do not value education. This is evident by high school and college dropout rates.

 

[theworldismine13]

one thing that is important in making a slave is the importance of making the slave think thaat they have no control over there lives and their lives are in the hands of somebody else, once a man is convinced of this, the man is a slave

i think that is the problem of this notion that boosie and by extension black people are just products of their environment and there is nothing that we can do until the people that created the environment do something about it, that mentality is essentially a pseudo slave like mentality, the theory of people being products of the environment sounds good until you realize that what that means is that our destiny is in this other man's hands

black people are not simply pieces of wood floating in an ocean and incapable of controlling our destiny, that is why its important to self analyze and make changes, we cannot wait until white people stop being racist or when the next man does such or such, we have to do some self analysis and changes independently of what the other man is doing or thinking

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Well,

I'm not an afrocentrist. I'm pro black, and by that I mean American Black.

But there is something conscious about his parents ensuring that he doesn't have a slave or crakker name. The fact that they are aware enough to do that means something. Obviously their ancestors came from Africa so he wouldn't be named Hunter Conner Mcirish or some shyt like that.

Exactly. People tell aa's to get over slavery. Without realizing slavery is as close to us as our very own last names. His parents were very conscious to change that

 

[Kritic]

Well,

I'm not an afrocentrist. I'm pro black, and by that I mean American Black.

But there is something conscious about his parents ensuring that he doesn't have a slave or crakker name. The fact that they are aware enough to do that means something. Obviously their ancestors came from Africa so he wouldn't be named Hunter Conner Mcirish or some shyt like that.

when that negro goes to apply for a job they gonna look at his name like

. he must be a rebel. and trash his application

 

[bzb]

Black people as a whole do not value education. This is evident by high school and college dropout rates.

this is the type of reckless and inaccurate commentary i'd expect to hear from a ignorant fox news junkie. someone who believes what they see on the tv and the internet without actually checking the facts.

in reality the dropout rates for blacks have steadily declined over the past 20 years from 13% to 5% and high school graduation is currently at it's highest level in the past 30 years. those facts actually support the notion that blacks are valuing education more than ever.

 

[theworldismine13]

this is the type of reckless and inaccurate commentary i'd expect to hear from a ignorant fox news junkie. someone who believes what they see on the tv and the internet without actually checking the facts.

in reality the dropout rates for blacks have steadily declined over the past 20 years from 13% to 5% and high school graduation is currently at it's highest level in the past 30 years. those facts actually support the notion that blacks are valuing education more than ever.

but the dropout rates for other groups has also declined, which in the end means black people are in the same position relatively speaking

increasing graduation is not enough, for black people to get ahead there has to be a quantum leap and a large cultural shift where black culture and black identity revolves around education