African-American Slaves & West Africa - History Books are Lying (pt 1 & 2)

[tuckgod]

It’s actually people that believe all our history in this country originated in slavery that are traumatized. You really ththink Africans didn’t come here first?

Exactly.

 

[tuckgod]

We already know so called black people have traveled and settled all over the world but there is a real movement brewing that claims the slave trade never happened. I thought you were one of those nikkas.

Nope.

I’m not part of any movement.

Just interested in the history of my folks.

All of it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Not at all. My ancestors are not rare. Most of Black Americans have 3rd and 4th Great Grandparents straight from Africa. Most of my paternal ancestors came over during the early/mid 1700's till they banned the African trade in 1807.

I wouldnt be surprised if there were new Africans being brought to the US on some black market stuff for a bit after slavery officially ended in the USA. I know there were numerous countries that ended slavery after the USA (i.e Brazil in 1888).

 

[BmoreGorilla]

We already know so called black people have traveled and settled all over the world but there is a real movement brewing that claims the slave trade never happened. I thought you were one of those nikkas.

Yea I can’t deny that the African slave trade took place altogether. There’s real evidence that it took place. I just don’t believe it happened to the magnitude we are taught

 

[invalid]

what is up with this growing wave of black men and conspiracy theories?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yea I can’t deny that the African slave trade took place altogether. There’s real evidence that it took place. I just don’t believe it happened to the magnitude we are taught

Also AAs have SPECIFICALLY West African/West Central African genetics.

These people didnt even get to West Africa until recent times. The darkskin indigenous people who youtubers want to call black do not even physically resemble AAs.

You tubers will use extreme examples of south sudanese people or something to claim AAs dont look like Africans, yet I myself genetically is “100% African” yet people think my girl who is AA With some amounts of White admixture is the “African” one lol.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Also AAs have SPECIFICALLY West African/West Central African genetics.

These people didnt even get to West Africa until recent times. The darkskin indigenous people who youtubers want to call black do not even physically resemble AAs.

You tubers will use extreme examples of south sudanese people or something to claim AAs dont look like Africans, yet I myself genetically is “100% African” yet people think my girl who is AA With some amounts of White admixture is the “African” one lol.

But if people migrated from West Africa to here before slavery wouldnt that account for some of the reason we have those genetics. Also what do you consider recent times? Also alot of those darkskin indigenous people you refer to do resemble some AAs.

 

[Apollo Creed]

But if people migrated from West Africa to here before slavery wouldnt that account for some of the reason we have those genetics. Also what do you consider recent times? Also alot of those darkskin indigenous people you refer to do resemble some AAs.

The question is when did these people come to America. The people who say AAs are not Africans are saying the “indigenous” natives were something other than african.

That is a very different statement then saying West africans set up shop in the Americas, because all in all these people would still be Africans.

If you are arguing ancient people from the continent came to the Americas and over thousands of years became something else that still wouldnt add up because the people who exist in modern day west africa are not natives of west africa. Bantu people and pygmies are the orignal/earliest West Africans. The modern day West Africans come from east Africa (hence the theories of us being the people of kemet and the hebrew isrealite stuff).


Genetically AAs very similar to Modern day West Africans, so if there were barely any slaves from africa then the west african features would not be so prominent in AAs.

 

[xoxodede]

The most detailed info you will find is looking at slave ship logs but even then they would only say what port the slave came from so you could maybe guess the tribe/ethnic group.

Typically if a slave had a muslim name then they were more than likely from a Mande group. Those with non muslim names were often just assigned names from the crew (ive seen alot of instances where people were just given the name “boy”, or something descriptor about them, or just something random).

I did find someone with my name on ship going from the windward coast to cuba (ship was intercepted by the british).

I agree.

The search engine where you can search names (African Origins: Transatlantic Slave Trade) -- starts at 1808 -- and doesn't have any enslaved who came into what is now known as America - due to the 1807 act.

I will say it can be really difficult -- because most of the known names were changed -- so you would have to find your ancestor via their enslaver, ship name, know what slave port, slave manifest, etc. But, it can be done.

I would recommend someone to:

1) find their ancestor(s) on the 1850 Slave Schedule under their enslaver's name -- make sure enslaved ancestor sex and age (or range) match up.

2) search for slave manifest under that enslavers name via U.S., Southeast Coastwise Inward and Outward Slave Manifests, 1790-1860.

3) find manifest, look for/match up ancestors name or sex/age range + and see where it came from, ship name, owner, etc. See if names are listed and find ancestor.

4) then look up ship/voyage info via Search The Voyages Database

Also, keep in mind a lot of the enslaved were sold/traded via the Domestic slave trade -- and you can find a lot of the ship names, owners and enslavers via Lexis Nexis and Archives:

http://www.lexisnexis.com/documents/academic/upa_cis/100539_AmSlaveTradeSerDPt1.pdf
Slave Ship Manifests filed at New Orleans, 1807-1860​

If you need Antebellum history of the state your ancestor was enslaved in search online or the Library:
"Records of ante-bellum Southern plantations from the Revolution through the Civil War" by Kenneth M. Stamp

Here are some that are online:

Alabama: http://www.lexisnexis.com/documents/academic/upa_cis/2442_AnteBellSouthPlanSerJPt6.pdf
Virginia: http://archives.library.wcsu.edu/omeka/files/original/3dcbdc116fe0f38a920f3f1cdf919560.pdf
Mississippi and Arkansas: http://www.lexisnexis.com/documents/academic/upa_cis/2442_AnteBellSouthPlanSerJPt6.pdf​

 

[xoxodede]

I’m not here to debate. My grandfather is native and black. He knows the whole family history and they were never slaves.

Not even possible. Sorry.

On debating -- me either.

And even if that were true -- it doesn't mean that his ancestors weren't enslaved. One person literally has many ancestors. He has two parents, four grandparents and so on...

 

[im_sleep]

There’s so many ways to debunk this bullshyt but the wannabe Indians think the average Black person is too “dumb” and “lost” to know how.


Hell a simple census search will show you hundreds of AA’s self-reported born in Africa, thousands who report at least one African born parent, and hundreds of AA’s with no shyt African names into the 20th century, my fam included.

But yall wanna dikk suck a group of people who historically don’t even fukk with us like that, shyt is beyond pathetic

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

There is evidence. Just read between the lines.

No, there isn't. If there were, there'd be no need to 'read between the lines' looking for something that ain't there or necessary.

Black people don't need to steal another people's heritage to feel important and we most certainly don't need bad scholarship masquerading as evidence polluting our consciousness in regarding OUR history.

We came from Africa. We were not already here.

Stop it.​

 

[BigMan]

I don’t understand the folks that claim they are native Americans and not from Africa But can’t point to one thing they’ve retained from their alleged culturehow you let whites brainwash you destroy your history to the point that all connection is gonemakes no sense

 

[im_sleep]

I don’t understand the folks that claim they are native Americans and not from Africa But can’t point to one thing they’ve retained from their alleged culturehow you let whites brainwash you destroy your history to the point that all connection is gonemakes no sense

They’ll say the almighty white man brainwashed us into believing we’re from Africa.

 

[Dzali OG]

There's levels to this...

Firstly, I'll address from the current academic agreement. There were black people in America AND slaves were brought in from Africa. Was that hard people?

Sometimes you must use your own brain and analyze your environment. Stop looking toward books and information for 100% of your conclusions. Because books and information can be 100% controlled.

Now, the rabbit hole I'm in now...

Research Tartaria, Foundling Children, Global mudslides...and a few more things you'll come across when you research Tartaria.

If you're a free thinker, you'll get a picture.

I just learned of Tartaria a few weeks ago. How many of you knew of the Tartaria Empire? It's an empire that was in power until the 19th Century! It was bigger than any empire you've heard about and it goes back to before Greeks!

THIS IS WHAT I HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!

I've been talking about breakaway civilizations on here for a few years and I think I've found one!

Go research this and unlearn what your educated, bougie ass think you know! Here's a hint to peak your interest: they were a global society taking up Russia, northern europe, AND the America's. They were multi racial, and had free energy.