Afram history that's hardly ever talked about: Black Loyalist->Nova Scotion->Sierre Leone Creole

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Trade ties but fluency in Iberian languages? It also seems that Portuguese trade did not last as long in West Africa. I do think Catholicism was the biggest factor, though.

Well the Portuguese biggest mistake in West Africa was not realizing how strong the militaries were along the grain, ivory and gold coast. I seem to recall reading that the worst ass kicking that the Portuguese got was at the hands of the Fante people (an Akan ethnic group). The Fante drove the Portuguese out of that castle in Ghana, because the Portuguese attempted to venture inland to discover were the gold mines were in West Africa. Well that shyt went horribly wrong for the Portuguese and they soon abandoned the far western portion of Africa altogether.

The other Europeans learned from the Portuguese ass kickings though and instead of taking on African militaries directly; they instead employed other African ethnic to act as their proxies (divide and conquer). That is how most Africans ended up in slavery. The other Europeans also learned to move their slave forts and store houses to Islands off of the coast, which is how place like Bunce Island were started.
 

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It’s likely that west African english pidgin had a Portuguese substrate
Some say that’s where New world creole languages come from (the other hypothesis is they were created in the new world)

yeah I know. For example growing up my mom would call a suitcase "valise" which has Italian/french origin. So it's interesting all of the influences in pidgin dialects.
 

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There are places in Liberia with Portugese names like Cape Palmas and Cape Mesurado (where Monrovia is). These places got their names in the 1500s so imo it is not far fetched that prior to full blown slavery popping off that there were Africans who picked up languages such as Portuguese for commerce purposes. You have like the Kru (they arent a Mande tribe) who worked as Sailors on slave ships because they were skilled in navigating the ocean (ironically they worked on ships but were considered one of the hardest to enslave due to them committing suicide when captured or just fighting back). They also were interpreters on the slave ship so imo it isn't too surprising there were Africans who could speak these languages since many groups have always done trade with Europeans.

Yeah sure maybe a few did but nothing pointing to fluency or even a uniform language like in Angola which would explain how they were able to disperse information of Spanish Florida in the USA.
 

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For instance,

When I was reading about the Jamaican maroon wars and revolts....you had enslaved Africans who could speak English keeping tabs on the British debate about the abolishment of slavery.

You had a similar dynamic with Haitians and the "age of enlightenment" in France, specifically the philosophy.

I don't think its a coincidence or reach to say Angolan fluency in an Iberian language made them more in tune with the movements of the Iberian peninsula.
 

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yeah I know. For example growing up my mom would call a suitcase "valise" which has Italian/french origin. So it's interesting all of the influences in pidgin dialects.
Words like “sabi" and "pickney" and their varients are from Portuguese and show up in almost all English creoles

West African Pidgin English - Wikipedia

Creole languages are very interesting to me. Where my mother is from we speak a Portuguese creole despite never been ruled by the Portuguese nor being around Portuguese colonies. Also Palenquero (often called a Spanish creole) that is spoken in Colombia, is also a Portugeuse creole language

then you have the creoles/pidgins of current day West Africa that have influence from Caribbean creoles as well.
 

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Words like “sabi" and "pickney" and their varients are from Portuguese and show up in almost all English creoles

West African Pidgin English - Wikipedia

Creole languages are very interesting to me. Where my mother is from we speak a Portuguese creole despite never been ruled by the Portuguese nor being around Portuguese colonies. Also Palenquero (often called a Spanish creole) that is spoken in Colombia, is also a Portugeuse creole language

then you have the creoles/pidgins of current day West Africa that have influence from Caribbean creoles as well.

Perhaps enslaved Brazilians were being resold in high volume? :jbhmm:
 

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Perhaps enslaved Brazilians were being resold in high volume? :jbhmm:
the language i'm referring to is Papiamento, which developed in Curacao then spread. the most popular theory is that Sephardi Jews that were kicked out of Brazil when the Portuguese retook it from the the Dutch mixed it with the African languages and Spanish and West African Portuguese creole that slaves in Curacao were using to create Papiamento. I think this is the likely origin as there is no other connection between the ABC islands and Brazil aside from that migration. There were slaves taken from Central Africa however. but yeah, its definitely Portuguese based as i've told @Yehuda it resembles brazilian portuguese at time

and for Palenquero in Colombia, its very unlikely that Brazilian slaves were being taken to Colombia
 

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Perhaps enslaved Brazilians were being resold in high volume? :jbhmm:

On 5 December 1496, because a clause of the contract of marriage between himself and Isabella, Princess of Asturias stipulated he do so in order to win her hand, King Manuel I of Portugal decreed that all Jews must convert to Catholicism or leave the country. One set of laws demonstrated the King's wish to completely and forever eradicate Judaism from Portugal. The initial edict of expulsion was turned into an edict of forced conversion in 1497: Portuguese Jews were prevented from leaving the country and forcibly converted to Christianity. Hard times followed for the Portuguese conversos, with the massacre of 2000 individuals in Lisbon in 1506 and the later and even more relevant establishment of the Portuguese Inquisition in 1536. The Portuguese inquisition was extinguished in 1821 by the "General Extraordinary and Constituent Courts of the Portuguese Nation".

When the King allowed conversos to leave after the Lisbon massacre of 1506, many went to the Ottoman Empire (notably Thessaloniki and Constantinople) and to Morocco. Smaller numbers went to Amsterdam, France, Brazil, Curaçao and the Antilles. In some of these places their presence can still be witnessed, like the use of the Ladino language by some Jewish communities in Turkey, the Portuguese based dialects of the Antilles, or the multiple synagogues built by those who became known as the Spanish and Portuguese Jews, such as the Amsterdam Esnoga. They were called Maranos.
 

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I see "Mina" listed under Bight of Benin but is that an actual ethnic group?
I was reading up on the Mina communities in NOLA and S America/Spanish Caribbean and there seems to be some confusion about the term.
Seems like it could also apply to the Gold Coast
Kind of off topic but I only ask because I was trying to find out more about the Point Coupee and Mina "conspiracies."

https://books.google.com/books?id=uFodWson5NAC&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq=Mina+(Louisiana)&source=bl&ots=uJhjlD6NFC&sig=xzV5FLQEkMu6WTzllltzE6IJSyQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis8qvr36HYAhWo6YMKHcYDAfQQ6AEIYjAO#v=onepage&q=Mina (Louisiana)&f=false

it's either bight of beni or gold coast slaves

https://books.google.com/books?id=u...SU7C-EQ6AEIRzAG#v=onepage&q=Mina akan&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=m...SU7C-EQ6AEITTAH#v=onepage&q=Mina akan&f=false
 

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Black Refugee (War of 1812)

The Black Refugees were Africans who escaped American slavery in the War of 1812 and who settled in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Trinidad, though the term is generally used only for those settled in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. They were the largest part of migration of African Americans who sought freedom in the War of 1812. Those from the Gulf Coast settled in Trinidad in 1815, and those who bore arms for the British in the second Corps of Colonial Marines settled in Trinidad in 1816 where they became the Merikins.[2] The Black Refugees were the second group of African Americans, after the Black Loyalists, to flee American enslavement in wartime and settle in Canada and they form the most significant immigration source for today's African Nova Scotian communities.

Background
During 1813, Vice Admiral Warren was ordered to receive aboard his ships any blacks who might petition him for assistance. These he was to receive as free men, not as slaves, and send them to any of several of His Majesty's colonies.[3] Captain Robert Barrie of HMS Dragon reported to Admiral Warren 'there is no doubt but the blacks of Virginia and Maryland would cheerfully take up arms and join us against the Americans.'[4] By the time that the Admiralty received the report, they had already decided to order Warren's successor, Vice-Admiral Sir Alexander Cochrane, to encourage emigration.

As with the precedents of with Lord Dunmore's Proclamation of November 7, 1775 and the Philipsburg Proclamation, Cochrane issued a Proclamation in partial implementation of instructions from his superiors in which he made no mention of slaves although he presumed it would be read as encouraging them to join the British:

'A Proclamation
Whereas it has been represented to me that many persons now resident in the United States have expressed a desire to withdraw therefrom with a view to entering into His Majesty's service, or of being received as free settlers into some of His Majesty's colonies.
This is therefore to give notice that all persons who may be disposed to migrate from the United States, will with their families, be received on board of His Majesty's ships or vessels of War, or at the military posts that may be established upon or near the coast of the United States, when they will have their choice of either entering into His Majesty's sea or land forces, or of being sent as free settlers to the British possessions in North America or the West Indies where they will meet with due encouragement.
Given under my hand at Bermuda this second day of April, 1814, by command of Vice Admiral.
Alex Cochrane'[5]
Cochrane's proclamation made no mention of slaves. Although only a few doubted its true application, it was widely misinterpreted as an incitement to violent revolt.

The flow of refugees had already been considerable, and Cochrane's action did no more than confirm what had been happening for over a year. Some years after the arrival in Nova Scotia of the Black Refugees, a plan was proposed for them to be sent to the Colony of Freetown, Sierra Leone where their African American brethren were the ruling elite, but the plan was only partly fulfilled. For the most part the Black Refugees remained in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, but a small group responded to an invitation to move to Trinidad.

Like the Black Loyalists to a limited extent, some of the Black Refugees' names were recorded in a document called the Halifax List: Return of American Refugee Negroes who have been received into the Province of Nova Scotia from the United States of America between 27 April 1815 and 24 October 1818 but it took no account of the considerable number who had already arrived earlier.

Outcome
In total, about 4000 Africans escaped to the British by way of the Royal Navy, the largest emancipation of African Americans prior to the American Civil War.[6] About 2000 settled in Nova Scotia and about 400 settled in New Brunswick.[7] Black Refugees in Nova Scotia were first housed in the former prisoner of war camp on Melville Island, which became an immigration facility after the War of 1812. From Melville Island, they moved to settlements around Halifax and in the Annapolis Valley. Other black refugees were settled in Trinidad, most having served in the Corps of Colonial Marines, but including around 200 from Louisiana and East and West Florida. The community in Trinidad became known as Merikins and their company villages still exist.

Descendants
The Black Refugees make up the largest single source of ancestors for Black Nova Scotians and formed the core of African Nova Scotian communities and churches that still exist today.[8] Large numbers of Black Refugees settled in North and East Preston, Nova Scotia, communities still occupied today by their descendents.

Many other Black refugees settled in smaller communities such as Hammonds Plains, Beechville, Windsor and communities throughout the Nova Scotia's Annapolis Valley. Some Black Refugee families moved closer to Halifax for employment opportunities in the 1840s, forming the Halifax community of Africville.

The migration included the religious leader and abolitionist Richard Preston and the parents of William Hall, one of Canada's first winners of a Victoria Cross. The Black Refugees in Nova Scotia brought basket-making skills from the Chesapeake Region, which are still practiced by their descendants and very distinct from the existing Mi'kmaw and Acadian basket-making styles in the region.[9]
 

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The Mande ethic group is diverse as hell simply because they inhabited areas of mass commerce. Pair that in with them getting to America and mixing with other groups makes AAs that much more diverse. Mande peoples are typically the ones who people will say "dont look African" being that they usually already have some type of admixture of numerous other tribes verse there being generations and generations of people only mating with 1-2 other tribes.

Usually you don't know someone is Mande until they tell you their name, while with many Nigerian ethnic groups for example they have very distinctive features.

Wrong Nigeria has as much diversity as any African natione, and it also has a big Mande influence both genetically and culturally through Mali, alongside Benin which is basically Nigeria the most influential nation to the people's in that area.
 
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