If I have 55 employees. It will be 49 when all the law comes into effect :obama3:
Affordable Obamacare "premiums"
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If I have 55 employees. It will be 49 when all the law comes into effect :obama3:
No you lack understanding of economics.
Obamacare will hurt the very people they intend to help. What stops a business owner from laying off people and taking a fine?
If that option is cheaper than insuring everyone?
the only thing that was wrong with our healthcare, was the motherfukking COST! obamacare is going to make shyt worse, watch. their definition of "affordable", is bullshyt.
this country is headed down the tubes. the supreme court ruled this constitutional because it's a TAX. obamacare is going to end up hurting the middle class.
this country is headed down the tubes. the supreme court ruled this constitutional because it's a TAX. obamacare is going to end up hurting the middle class.
I work for a business around 70 employees, we employ part time people. We're certainly not killing it by any stretch. We dont have a group of executives making serious dough.
No one wants to see layoffs. What happens here, the people that arent "revenue producers"(admins etc..) are the first to get cut because of this new strain. It sucks, but you really dont have much of a choice if health premiums put you in the red.
Its amazing how common sense gets thrown out the window. People dont start businesses because they want to cover employees health insurance. They do it to try and profit.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Where's the numbers in this response though?
CrimsonTider seems to be bringing up data to back up his points rather than conjecture you seem to be relying on.
I want to learn all I can, so bring up some data.
Do you really believe it will not cost employers more to implement this crap sandwich?
Even part-time workers have to be insured.:jada:
Read the law yourself, it's in there
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Dog....you're just painting a picture rather than providing me with data to back your assertion.
which numbers do you need? Its common sense.
Smaller businesses who are barely breaking even(economy still stinks) are being forced to provide all of their employees insurance.
@No_bammer_weed is an ideologue who refuses to think rationally.
Sometimes some of these guys need to throw the liberal/conservative crap out the window and think independently for once!
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I'm confused about this whole thing.
Say a small business has 51 employees and about half or so qualify for medical assistance. Would the business be responsible for all 51 or just the half that can't get medical assistance?
And are they gonna penalize the business AND the individuals that don't have insurance or one or the other.
Say a small business has 51 employees and about half or so qualify for medical assistance. Would the business be responsible for all 51 or just the half that can't get medical assistance?
And are they gonna penalize the business AND the individuals that don't have insurance or one or the other.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
That sh!t is for a few years you think they will make it permanent?
:obama3:
There is no such thing as free lunch
Either way they will tax you another way to get it back.
After 2014-15 most of the tax breaks are gone. Read the law itself bruh don't let anyone lie to you.
your copays were going up before obama care, if obama was never born and never made prez. your premiums and copays would still go up. i still remember my old copay being 15 bucks. i've gone thru clinton, bush, and obama. my copays have gone up with all of them.I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on ObamaCare, but I do know my co-pays have been steadily increasing, and my coverage is tightening.
Not sure if that has more to do with my state's budget going down the toilet, or Obama's legislation.
Most likely both
so it doesnt have a lot to do with ob care. and thats something a lot of people that agreed with OB care could not get across to the masses. your premiums, copays, etc. were already going up like crazy. they use OB care as a scapegoat for what was already happening.
now with that said, common sense will tell you to cover most people and to expand medicaid. the rest of us will have to pay a little more.
if you're broke, you can get medicaid.
Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?' - Jun. 13, 2013
The poor folks either have to find 2K somewhere in California or take a fine :obama3: I will let you guess which decision they will make...
Liberal Utopia plan will crush and burn infront of our eyes.
Don't say we didn't warn you.
